# The Burning Dog Crater -- Raidlist and other fun things for Cataclysm

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 10, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696 "2010-12-10T20:22:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/121 "2011-01-21T17:33:23Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> There shouldn’t be a single boss in Heroics that requires DBM. None of them does anything that you can’t very easily deal with simply by watching the boss’s castbar and ground effects.

I was very glad of DBM screaming at me to NOT MOVE on the fourth SFK boss when he did the red poison. “red light green light” indeed.

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/122 "2011-01-21T17:34:06Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> Rottingbird is now Honored with you fine folks! Adding to our ‘Classy’ achievements (85-mage, undead-mage-85) Pretty soon, we’ll have our 15 minute hearths. That’ll be cool. And then if we can get a warrior and shaman to 85 and honored we’ll get the Shroud of Org-Teleportation.

Grats Bird!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/123 "2011-01-21T17:35:41Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> Rottingbird is now Honored with you fine folks! Adding to our ‘Classy’ achievements (85-mage, undead-mage-85) Pretty soon, we’ll have our 15 minute hearths. That’ll be cool. And then if we can get a warrior and shaman to 85 and honored we’ll get the Shroud of Org-Teleportation.

Hm. (thinks about his level 15 Shaman and level 11 warrior). Not from this direction any time soon.

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/124 "2011-01-21T19:07:57Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Hm. (thinks about his level 15 Shaman and level 11 warrior). Not from this direction any time soon.

Likewise from here. I’ve got to focus on running Rahuul through Heroics and Panzera’s LW/Guild rep/Normal dungeons.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/125 "2011-01-21T22:08:33Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> IIRC you don’t even need to be maxed for JC right now, unless you want to spend your tokens on the blue craftable rings and necks (and AFAIK there’s no real point to those). Anything 500+ should be enough to cut the new Rare gems and metas.

Speaking of which, I am starting to stockpile the tokens waiting for some guildies to mail gems to me for me to cut. I can cut any of the green level 81 gems to any cut…hell, I got lots of jasper and alicite on hand, tell me what you want from those and I shall cut and mail them to you.

The blue level 85 gems are a little more scarce in my inventory. If you do have one that needs a specific cut, let me know so I can purchase the scroll with my tokens, I have about 8 tokens now so I can purchase a couple of scrolls. I already have the +40 str bold inferno ruby cut and the Chaotic Shadowspirit Diamond Meta. I will probably get the +45 stam cut next so our tanks can benefit from free cuts.

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Huh. Awsm is one of the 450s. If anyone feels like mailing a ton of herbs to him, I wouldn’t object (and it would help us work towards an achieve).

Atta’boy. 😛

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/126 "2011-01-24T13:38:34Z")

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I’ll do my best to be around for a guild heroic or two tonight, but I may not be able to make it on till 10 to 10:15pm at latest because of work today so if you guys get a full group going before then, that’s understandable.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/127 "2011-01-24T14:36:49Z")

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I haven’t had any success pugging Keyne in heroics, so hopefully we can get one or two guild runs tonight. I hat making JayRX DPS, but you _don’t_ want me trying to dps. Kene (spriest)'s DPS is okay, but he’s not close to heroic-ready yet. I need more normals on him.

Re: the Classy achievement, how many active shammies/warriors do we have? My shammy gained about five levels yesterday but he’s still only 38 - so still quite a long way to go, at the expense of gearing up my two 85’s.

Anyway, I might be on a little later tonight (birthday dinner) but I expect no later than 8:30 or so, maybe earlier.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/128 "2011-01-24T14:52:27Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> “Yes, just pull him all the way out to the courtyard and you don’t have to deal with the adds.”

Ooooh, thank you!

I got PUGged into another-guild’s RFK heroic guildrun yesterday, my first time there. The first time we tried him it was quite a mess; the second time I was trapping one add while tanking the other with my turtle (with her AoE off) - I think it would have worked if I’d kept retrapping that add, instead of killing one after another, but they decided to skip it and I guess I had a shy minute or something. The rest went quite well except for the first boss (we wiped once, then someone jumped down and that pulled him, then someone cast too close and that pulled him, then we regrouped upstairs and cast everything before getting too close and he kindly went and died).

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/129 "2011-01-24T16:09:02Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> I can cut any of the green level 81 gems to any cut…

You do know that some of those cuts are BOE and not from the trainer, right? I had to buy quite a few of them off the AH.

> [@](#):
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> If you do have one that needs a specific cut, let me know so I can purchase the scroll with my tokens,

Not sure if this would be helpful for you guys, but I’m running a spreadsheet to track what cuts I have, what cuts I’m planning to get next, and what cuts people have requested. It could easily be adapted to record more than one JC, too. [Here’s the link](https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AshyGO3qHFWedHRfQXpxYTMweFZhLVR0VEFRSURZNFE&hl=en&authkey=COPy_aAD) if you wanted to check it out and make something similar (it would certainly save you entering all the information over again :D).

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/130 "2011-01-24T16:53:17Z")

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I have a 66 warrior who’s been languishing in obscurity. With the max rested xp, maybe he’s good to hit northrend after only a couple dungeons, or nights of questing. But looking at the roster, Crugel is an 85 warrior already! Just needs to hit honored with BDL to make it count (600rep more!). As for shamans, we have a couple 80s we haven’t seen in a while, so I think Greenbird,27 and Kheen,38 are the closest actives:/

Had a great cycle at Mining in Hyjal yesterday. One circuit, 80 ore! Sent to Yeti for prospecting and with the gems he returned, maxed alchemy! yay!

Re: Working as a team achievement. Looks like Yeti’s close on JC, and Awsmpallytank is our best inscription, so I’ll send some herbs I stockpiled. Moobird is sub-500 in LW, but I know someone else is closer.

Lastly, I won’t be around tonight until much later, hopefully you’ll have enough for some runs.

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**Author:** ![kjckjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@kjckjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kjckjc)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/131 "2011-01-24T17:36:36Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> Re: Working as a team achievement.

Looks like Rahuul and Myika are at 525 Alch.  
Yeti is 525 BS.  
Panzera and Cornballah maxed Enchanting.  
Makig has Engineering.  
We have 7 maxed Herbs.  
Proditio and Awsmpally are both at 450 Inscrip.  
Yeti is at 507 JC.  
9 Miners maxed.  
Four others and I are maxed skinning.  
Corn is maxed tailoring.  
And our top LWs are Panzera (516), me (504), Keyne (477) and Moo at 474.

So other than Inscription we are in pretty good shape I think. I have enough mats for 5-6 more points I think, I will go check.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/132 "2011-01-24T17:40:32Z")

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> [@kjckjc](#):
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> Looks like Rahuul and Myika are at 525 Alch.  
> Yeti is 525 BS.  
> Panzera and Cornballah maxed Enchanting.  
> Makig has Engineering.  
> We have 7 maxed Herbs.  
> Proditio and Awsmpally are both at 450 Inscrip.  
> Yeti is at 507 JC.  
> 9 Miners maxed.  
> Four others and I are maxed skinning.  
> Corn is maxed tailoring.  
> And our top LWs are Panzera (516), me (504), Keyne (477) and Moo at 474.
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> So other than Inscription we are in pretty good shape I think. I have enough mats for 5-6 more points I think, I will go check.

BTW do we need honored with the guild as well?

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**Author:** ![kjckjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@kjckjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kjckjc)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/133 "2011-01-24T17:52:58Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> BTW do we need honored with the guild as well?

Yes, honored is required.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/134 "2011-01-24T18:41:00Z")

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Honored is required for pretty much anything like that (including having an 85 of every class/race).

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/135 "2011-01-24T18:48:45Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> BTW do we need honored with the guild as well?

> [@kjckjc](#):
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> Yes, honored is required.

Hm. I was going to level up Rumpole first (had already started) now that Muz is reasonably well-set, but I guess I could flip to Awsm.

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/136 "2011-01-24T19:15:44Z")

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Remember the 3500 guild-rep cap/week. You can burn through Cata too fast and miss out on a lot of guild rep. So if you stop getting guild-rep for completing Cata quests, you’ve capped (There’s no other way to tell AFAIK).

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/137 "2011-01-24T19:23:48Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> You do know that some of those cuts are BOE and not from the trainer, right? I had to buy quite a few of them off the AH.

Right…I only have a scant few of those.

> [@](#):
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> Not sure if this would be helpful for you guys, but I’m running a spreadsheet to track what cuts I have, what cuts I’m planning to get next, and what cuts people have requested. It could easily be adapted to record more than one JC, too. [Here’s the link](https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AshyGO3qHFWedHRfQXpxYTMweFZhLVR0VEFRSURZNFE&hl=en&authkey=COPy_aAD) if you wanted to check it out and make something similar (it would certainly save you entering all the information over again :D).

I tried a link and got a 404. Would love to see it though.

> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> Had a great cycle at Mining in Hyjal yesterday. One circuit, 80 ore! Sent to Yeti for prospecting and with the gems he returned, maxed alchemy! yay!
> 
> Re: Working as a team achievement. Looks like Yeti’s close on JC, and Awsmpallytank is our best inscription, so I’ll send some herbs I stockpiled. Moobird is sub-500 in LW, but I know someone else is closer.

Woot! That was a good round of prospecting that time. I love prospecting…send me more ore everyone!

> [@kjckjc](#):
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> Looks like Rahuul and Myika are at 525 Alch.  
> Yeti is 525 BS.  
> Panzera and Cornballah maxed Enchanting.  
> Makig has Engineering.  
> We have 7 maxed Herbs.  
> Proditio and Awsmpally are both at 450 Inscrip.  
> Yeti is at 507 JC.  
> 9 Miners maxed.  
> Four others and I are maxed skinning.  
> Corn is maxed tailoring.  
> And our top LWs are Panzera (516), me (504), Keyne (477) and Moo at 474.
> 
> So other than Inscription we are in pretty good shape I think. I have enough mats for 5-6 more points I think, I will go check.

I could try to keep making Fire Prisms but the nightstones needed (3 of each green gem) are worth far more than the yield of rare gems…and I’m out of nightstones. I’m a little stuck in that regard.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/138 "2011-01-24T20:03:27Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> I tried a link and got a 404. Would love to see it though.

Just copied the link again. [Try this one.](https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AshyGO3qHFWedHRfQXpxYTMweFZhLVR0VEFRSURZNFE&hl=en&authkey=COPy_aAD) Honestly it looks like it’s the same, though, so I’m not sure what the problem is (the other link worked fine for me). Is the link working for other people? (ETA: I just signed out and tried the link again, and it still worked for me.)

> [@](#):
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> I could try to keep making Fire Prisms but the nightstones needed (3 of each green gem) are worth far more than the yield of rare gems…and I’m out of nightstones. I’m a little stuck in that regard.

Fire Prisms are only worthwhile to level yourself. They don’t do jack shit to make you money. As for the Nightstones, I’m not sure if it would be worth it in Cairne’s economy, but I personally buy up stacks of Obsidium Ore and Prospect it. I then hold onto the (color, not rarity) blue, green, and purple gems and sell them off when they’re the respective JC dailies. All of the other gems I sell as I get (or send to a guildie to help them level).

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/139 "2011-01-25T00:12:38Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> I haven’t had any success pugging Keyne in heroics, so hopefully we can get one or two guild runs tonight. I hat making JayRX DPS, but you _don’t_ want me trying to dps. Kene (spriest)'s DPS is okay, but he’s not close to heroic-ready yet. I need more normals on him.

I don’t mind DPSing for guild runs. Ironically, despite having more to watch out for as a healer (IMO), I do a better job of keeping out of the fire as heals than I do as DPS, so making me DPS is good practice for me.

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/140 "2011-01-25T00:16:57Z")

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> [@kjckjc](#):
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> Looks like Rahuul and Myika are at 525 Alch.  
> Yeti is 525 BS.  
> Panzera and Cornballah maxed Enchanting.  
> Makig has Engineering.  
> We have 7 maxed Herbs.  
> Proditio and Awsmpally are both at 450 Inscrip.  
> Yeti is at 507 JC.  
> 9 Miners maxed.  
> Four others and I are maxed skinning.  
> Corn is maxed tailoring.  
> And our top LWs are Panzera (516), me (504), Keyne (477) and Moo at 474.
> 
> So other than Inscription we are in pretty good shape I think. I have enough mats for 5-6 more points I think, I will go check.

Panzera should be both honored with the guild and maxed on LW by the end of the week. I just need to acquire the mats for the charscale leg enhancement recipes, which, iirc, each give 5 skill up points when created–assuming they’re 515 skill and not 520, at any rate.

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