# The Bushiviks Protect America, The Sage Continues... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2006, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950 "2006-11-03T08:41:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/1 "2006-11-03T08:41:18Z")
Time to scare you a pantload! Election time, and they have nothing to sell but fear itself. Who can you trust to protect America? Take a walk down memory lane, remember those vast warehouses full of WMD? And how some of the more stubborn tighty rights insisted that if we could just gain access and translation to all those captured Iraqi documents, they would reveal the location! Yes! Thats the ticket! Put them out on the web so that Arabic linguists could translate them _en masse_, that’ll tell us whether they’re stashed in Syria/flown to Russia/sold to Soros! Brilliant! [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?\_r=1&oref=slogin](http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) \*\*U.S. Web Archive Is Said to Reveal a Nuclear Primer \*\* > [@](#): > > Last March, the federal government set up a Web site to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war. The Bush administration did so under pressure from Congressional Republicans who had said they hoped to “leverage the Internet” to find new evidence of the prewar dangers posed by Saddam Hussein…But in recent weeks, the site has posted some documents that weapons experts say are a danger themselves: …The documents, the experts say, constitute a basic guide to building an atom bomb… Oh, goody gumdrops! Oh, happy day! > [@](#): > > …access to the site had been suspended “pending a review to ensure its content is appropriate for public viewing.” … Very reassuring. Aren’t you reassured? I’m certainly reassured. Oh, my, yes. > [@](#): > > …The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums… Gosh, even the Goggle? > [@](#): > > …The campaign for the online archive was mounted by conservative publications and politicians, who said that the nation’s spy agencies had failed adequately to analyze the 48,000 boxes of documents seized since the March 2003 invasion… Absolutely. When professionals fail, bring in the amateurs. > [@](#): > > The director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte, had resisted setting up the Web site… But President Bush approved the site’s creation after Congressional Republicans proposed legislation to force the documents’ release. And the thanks of a grateful nation… ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/2 "2006-11-03T09:02:12Z")
If you outlaw rogue nuclear warheads, only the outlaws will have rogue nuclear warheads. Don’t worry, I’m sure none of the terrorists know how to right click and save as. ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/3 "2006-11-03T09:13:13Z")
But don’t you see this proves that Saddam had a WMD program! :eek: Back in the 1990’s before the first Gulf War. Which, of course, we already knew. But that won’t stop some from trumpeting this supposed “revelation”. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/4 "2006-11-03T12:44:07Z")
Wow, with our flaccid response to the A.Q. Khan Home Despot Nuclear Technology Distribution Supercenter, our spectator role in the excruciatingly long and loud effort by North Korea to detonate a plutonium bomb, and now this (which I have to give the credit for the best headline to the Huffington Post: “[Bush Admin Posted Nuclear Bomb Building Guide on the Internet](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/)”), one has to wonder if Bush’s intention is not to stop until Barney and Laura are the last ones who don’t know how to build a nuclear bomb. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/5 "2006-11-03T13:41:51Z")
Come on - be honest. How can anyone vote for the ass-clowns? How can a single voter pull the ‘Please Sir can I have some more’ lever? From the same article. > [@](#): > > The government had received earlier warnings about the contents of the Web site. Last spring, after the site began posting old Iraqi documents about chemical weapons, United Nations arms-control officials in New York won the withdrawal of a report that gave information on how to make tabun and sarin, nerve agents that kill by causing respiratory failure. They were warned about suspect material and did nothing to check for or prevent the posting of DIY Armaggedon instructions in a program Bush is personally responsible for? Yet I know practically 50% of voters will do, including no doubt supposedly informed ones here, even though a smoking buck is now lodged firmly in the Great Leader’s lying face. Teaching terrorists how to build nukes and gas us. Sheesh. But at least they weren’t botching the punchlines of jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/6 "2006-11-03T13:49:10Z")
> [@](#): > > The most solemn duty of the American President is to protect the American people. Since September the 11th, 2001, we’ve taken bold and vigorous steps to prevent further attacks and overcome emerging threats. [Mission Accomplished!](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/20050331.html) ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/7 "2006-11-03T13:59:48Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] [Mission Accomplished!](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/20050331.html) [/QUOTE] Well to be fair they’ve kept the nation safe from gays formalising their love. And not even to mention ending the ever-present threat of stem cells. And poverty among billionaires and Halliburton executives past and present has almost been wiped out entirely. I wish I was American so I could vote for them too. (sigh). ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/8 "2006-11-03T14:05:22Z")
And the ass-hattery just goes on and on. [A military dog handler convicted for his role in the prisoner abuse scandal has been ordered back to help train the country’s police](http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1554326-1,00.html) > [@](#): > > According to former senior U.S. military officers and others interviewed by TIME, sending a convicted abuser back to Iraq to train local police sends the wrong signal You don’t say. :rolleyes: Just a question. Are you guys trying to lose or what? ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/9 "2006-11-03T14:14:19Z")
[QUOTE=tagos] And the ass-hattery just goes on and on. [/QUOTE] Another quote from the linked article: > [@](#): > > Cardona said he had told at least one of his superiors that he feared for his safety in Iraq, especially because of his presence in the al-Qaeda video, but was told by an officer, “We need bodies [in Iraq]" and that he shouldn’t worry about it. Right – 600,000 dead Iraqi bodies, and counting (or not counting, if you are the US). A wonderful way of expressing US policy in Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/10 "2006-11-03T15:39:04Z")
Ah, I hadn’t read this thread when I posted my own about the Cardona mindboggler. Oh, well, that’s bizarro-stupid enough to deserve a thread of its own rather than hijack **'luci** ’s original exemplar of idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/11 "2006-11-03T16:00:49Z")
This is old news, dollface! Take a look at Drudge’s little webpage right now. In a conincidence that would make a pimp blush with its brazenness Saddam is supposedly going to be sentenced…Sunday. That should give us plenty of time to stuff the Monday news cycles with images of Saddam in chains. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/12 "2006-11-04T00:56:56Z")
So I take it you think they will find Saddam guilty… He certainly is responsible for the deaths of many innocent Iraqis. Which reminds me, did Bush commit an act of treason in telling our enemies how to engineer The Big One? Who are the idiots responsible for following orders on this one? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/13 "2006-11-04T01:04:35Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] … **'luci** ’s original exemplar of idiocy. [/QUOTE] Hey! I mean…hey! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/14 "2006-11-04T01:05:13Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > the A.Q. Khan Home Despot Nuclear Technology Distribution Supercenter Love it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/15 "2006-11-04T01:08:16Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Hey! I mean…hey! [/QUOTE] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/16 "2006-11-04T01:19:40Z")
Well, Hell, I pay taxes, even! Why can’t I have me wunna them therm-oh nookular thingers. If terrorists is got these, I gotta Gawd-given right to bear arms, dadgummit. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/17 "2006-11-04T03:42:50Z")
Is there anything Bush and Co. will not do in the hopes of maintaining power? Anything? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/18 "2006-11-04T04:42:03Z")
From the [Weekly Standard](http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/011/945usqnx.asp), cited on Daily Kos, it is clear that Bush himself was rushing the release of these documents. > [@](#): > > Bush told Hadley to expedite the release of the Iraq documents. “This stuff ought to be out. Put this stuff out.” The president would reiterate this point before the meeting adjourned. And as the briefing ended, he approached Pence, poked a finger in the congressman’s chest, and thanked him for raising the issue. When Pence began to restate his view that the documents should be released, Bush put his hand up, as if to say, “I hear you. It will be taken care of.” ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/19 "2006-11-04T05:28:31Z")
Well, it is about thyme. After all, it is their job to protect us from allspice and terrorists and other enemies. I’m sure that they can display a cumin to find a way to guard us if they want to curry favor with the public. If we asked about their past failures, we would discover that to be a ginger spot on their feelings. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950/20 "2006-11-04T05:43:38Z")
_(slaps Tom with a wet trout)_ Hey, the Administration said that there was a danger Iraqi weapons of mass destruction technology would fall into the hands of al-Qaeda, and by God, they were right! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bushiviks-protect-america-the-sage-continues/378950.md?page=2)