# The Butterfly effect **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 18, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038 "2004-01-18T01:57:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2004, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/21 "2004-01-19T21:48:25Z")
_Sound of Thunder_ was stuck in preproduction for a number of years, as they tried to deal with that very “not enough material” problem. It went through a bunch of A-list directors and actors, including Pierce Brosnan. It finally broke the logjam last year, but with a second-tier cast and crew. [url=]More info is on this page (note: you may have to click through an ad). It’s in post-production now, so we’ll probably see it released this year, possibly late summer. Re _The Butterfly Effect_, the buzz is emphatically mixed, with as many people hating it as loving it and a lot of voices in the middle going “eh.” Most of those on the positive side say it works _despite_ Kutcher. He wasn’t fired from the new Cameron Crowe movie for nuthin’. Just thought some actual information would be useful. You may now return to your ranting. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/22 "2004-01-20T08:00:05Z")
While people who talk during the movie itself most certainly go to the special hell, trailers are mere advertising, and should be granted the same respect as any other form of marketing. Which is to say, none at all. ---
**Author:** ![Cosmopolitan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/94ad74/32.png) [@Cosmopolitan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmopolitan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/23 "2004-01-20T17:30:41Z")
And speaking of trailers… [hijack] Finally went to see “LOTR: ROTK” last night, after two attempts & much anticipation. Now, the movie’s quite long as is, yes? On top of that, however, my fellow movie-goers & I had to endure _twenty-two minutes_ (my dad timed it) of commercials, trailers & other, assorted bullshit. WHAT IN HOLY HELL IS THAT ABOUT??? [/hijack] Sorry, but it had to be said & I didn’t see the need to start a whole other thread. ---
**Author:** ![Medea\_s\_Child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Medea\_s\_Child](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Medea_s_Child)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/24 "2004-01-21T02:10:07Z")
The heckling comment for the preview is “Dude, Where’s My Delorian?”, courtesy of my friend Dan. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/25 "2004-01-21T04:42:28Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Most of those on the positive side say it works _despite_ Kutcher. He wasn’t fired from the new Cameron Crowe movie for nuthin’. He was? Why? What happened? As for _The Butterfly Effect_ it looks kind of interesting, although I’ll wait until it’s out on video. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/26 "2004-01-21T04:50:38Z")
Maybe rent it along with _The Mothman Prophecies_? Get it? Butterfly? Moth? I crack me up. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/27 "2004-01-21T06:41:32Z")
> [@Cosmopolitan](#): > > WHAT IN HOLY HELL IS THAT ABOUT??? Oh, it’s the latest trend at theaters here. The pre-show “entertainment” is now 20 minutes or so of commercials, maybe a lame music video from some lame band, a few 30 second clips from unfunny shows, all at EAR SPLITTING VOLUME. And then the show starts, and you endure two or three JOIN THE MARINES/DRUGS ARE BAD/WAAA WAA THIS MOVIE GUY ISN’T MAKING ANY MONEY commercials and then the usual movie theater BUY POPCORN! CONSUME! GET FAT! commercials. So then the trailers start and are usually various stupid movies with flavor-of-the-month pop stars and maybe one or two you want to see, but are all at EAR SPLITTING VOLUME, SO YOU CAN’T POSSIBLY LEAN OVER AND SAY “Hey, that looks good, let’s try and see that” to WHOEVER YOU’RE WITH. All of this is at Ear-Splitting Volume. Or, lemme do this modern-movie style…Make sure to turn your speakers up to 11. Deep Movie Guy Voice: In a world… Various ads: BUY COKE! BUY PEPSI! BUY SOMETHING! DMVG: …where soulless marketing drones churn out ads… (faceless drones in a meeting) Drone #1: You know, people aren’t looking at enough ads. Drone #2: I know! People like talking quietly before the movie starts. Why don’t we bombard them with loud obnoxious ads, instead? Head Drone: Brilliant! Let’s go snort coke off some dead hookers! DMVG: And some whiny movie guy may lose a dollar because of file-sharing… Whiny Movie Guy: It was a WHOLE DOLLAR! DMVG: Entertainment executives will finally piss people off, so they quit going to movies… GMRyujin: Christ, I’m sick of these ads. I’ll wait for the DVD! DMVG: Then they’ll blame Napster, like the RIAA… Entertainment Executive: It can’t be because the movies suck. Ashton Kutcher and Hillary Duff remaking Casablanca tested high in all the surveys we took! It must be those damn kids with their computers. DMVG: And it’ll be 2002 all over again… Marketing Drone #3: You know what DVDs need? More ads! Head Drone: Brilliant! More coke and dead hookers! DMVG: Only worse. Coming in 2004. GMRyujin’s Melodramatic Post! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/28 "2004-01-21T07:49:15Z")
> [@GMRyujin](#): > > Head Drone: Brilliant! Let’s go snort coke off some dead hookers! > > Head Drone: Brilliant! More coke and dead hookers! This probably makes me look really bad, but these two lines in particular cracked me up like nobody’s business. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/29 "2004-01-21T08:48:05Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > He was? Why? What happened? Pretty simple. Cameron Crowe hired Kutcher for a role. Worked with him for a couple of days. Decided (a) his work habits sucked, i.e. he wasn’t on time and didn’t have his lines, and (b) he couldn’t act anyway. Booted him. End of story. (Actually, the story is that Crowe invited Kutcher to come back, and when Kutcher said “Really?” Crowe responded, “No, you’ve been punked, get the fuck off my set.” But that’s probably just apocryphal rumormongering. Funny, yes, but likely apocryphal. Until I hear Crowe himself say that’s what he did, I label it fiction.) ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/30 "2004-01-21T13:08:13Z")
But admit it…you **want** it to be true. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/31 "2004-01-22T07:17:26Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > This probably makes me look really bad, but these two lines in particular cracked me up like nobody’s business. 😃 You can always blame the media, i.e., me! ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/32 "2004-01-22T13:22:54Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > But admit it…you **want** it to be true. Oh hell yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/33 "2004-01-22T15:35:33Z")
Rocketeer’s Law of Movie Advertising: The more ads, the worse the movie. Especially if the ads are on Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038/34 "2004-01-22T16:56:01Z")
That’s always been my take. Promote the hell out of a movie because you (the studio) KNOW it sucks ass and the only way you’re going to make any dough is to hype it so much you get a big pop the first weekend. After that word of mouth will get around and it goes down like a dying quail. Another good tip is whether other movies are getting the hell out of its way. That should indicate that OTHER studios are afraid it’ll be so good their product will get left behind. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-butterfly-effect/225038.md?page=1)