# The Caine Mutiny **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 30, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761 "2006-09-30T19:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/1 "2006-09-30T19:26:31Z")
When we first see José Ferrer in _The Caine Mutiny_, was he wearing a Marine uniform? ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/2 "2006-09-30T21:41:14Z")
In the book Barney Greenwald was a pilot who crashed in a training flight, the movie shows him with a bandaged hand. I would guess it is a Naval aviators uniform. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/3 "2006-09-30T21:52:19Z")
In the courtmartial scene he wears a Navy lieutenant’s uniform. But I thought he was wearing an olive green Marine captain’s uniform in the first scene José Ferrer is in. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/4 "2006-09-30T22:00:38Z")
It’s called Aviation Working Green. The jacket is made from Marine green material but it is a Navy uniform. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/5 "2006-09-30T22:11:41Z")
Interesting. I’d never heard of it. Do you have a photo? ---
**Author:** ![yoyodyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/6 "2006-09-30T22:25:26Z")
There’s a drawing of it [here](http://www.sitelab.com/navair/Uniforms/un_navy_officer.html), but I can’t find a good photo. Unless you count the movie, of course 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/7 "2006-10-01T03:48:33Z")
In the WW2 time-frame, it was rather common not just for the US but for other world navies, to have certain “communities” within the service wear a “ground establishment” uniform as working-service outfit. In other navies you would see not just Aviators but also Construction Engineers and other such groups that were not trained as “seafarers” wear a “marine” uniform – and even use “land force” ranks or custom “relative rank” (a-la-PHS) rather than naval ranks. BTW: In WW2 the Navy lawyers did not wear the mill rine JAG device, there wasn’t even a real separate JAG staff corps. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/8 "2006-10-02T12:50:28Z")
Incidentally, the phrase _The straight dope_ is used in the film. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/9 "2023-10-07T17:30:43Z")
Perhaps this tidbit deserves its own thread, but I see The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial directed by William Friedkin and starring Kiefer Sutherland as Queeg and Jake Lacy as Mayrk, has just been released. Not a fan of Sutherland, mostly because of 24 Hours, but I’m keen to see this. ---
**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/10 "2023-10-13T13:55:22Z")
In 1988, [Robert Altman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Altman) directed another made-for-television version of _The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial_ for [Columbia Pictures Television (CPT)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Pictures_Television). The cast included [Eric Bogosian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Bogosian) as Barney Greenwald, [Jeff Daniels](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Daniels) as Steve Maryk, [Brad Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Davis_(actor)) as Philip Francis Queeg, [Peter Gallagher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gallagher) as John Challee, [Kevin J. O’Connor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_J._O%27Connor_(actor)) as Tom Keefer, [Daniel Jenkins](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Jenkins) as Willie Keith, and Altman regular [Michael Murphy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Murphy_(actor)) as Captain Blakely. It was excellent! ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/11 "2023-10-14T03:20:10Z")
I thought that this old thread was reopened to discuss the new **The Caine Mutiny Court Martial** starring Kiefer Sutherland as Queeg. Alas, it’s on Showtime so I haven’t been able to see it. Is it any good? > **[The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial (2023) ⭐ 6.9 | Drama, War](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24249946/?ref_=ext_shr)** > > 1h 48m ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-caine-mutiny/374761/12 "2023-10-14T04:16:42Z")
I really liked it. BTW, one weird thing I was not expecting is that he updated the dialogue so that the mutiny takes place in 2022.