There was a funny segment about elections and politics on CBC - let it burn in righteous fire of non-funding - where reporter went to Vaughan, Ontario, the electorate of the former Toronto Police Chief, Jualian “I catch criminals with my bare hands” Fantino.
Now, his slogan and primary banner under which he is seeking to become MP is to, yes, “fight the crime”. So, reporter went around asking people if they are aware that in Vaughan there is no crime to speak of. People would look at him somewhat phased with crime stats in Vaughan but they would still mainatan that Fantino’s message is spot on - kinda like “you can never take a rest fighting crime”. It was surreal.
On another note, Fox News North a.k.a. Sun TV had a breaking news that in 1996 Jack Layton was bad, bad bad, bad… the decency has left the building. I want to meet a person who will change their vote based on this kind of propaganda and scare mongering. I always thought that’s for Americans, let them have it, but, no, it appears that gullibility is the decease of the 21st century. And it’s spreading …
Yeah? So what if they are? The police, the courts, the judges decide who gets incarcerated, not the Prime Minister’s office.
This government is forward-thinking and saying that as the population of the country increases, we should start planning for an increased number of prison spaces.
If the same fucking argument was made for hospitals or schools (which happens daily) then no one would flinch. What makes increasing prison space relative to increased population projections such a taboo subject?
Oh, crime is decreasing… Fuck off. The population of Canada is increasing and if we don’y RIGHT NOW plan for the future then we’ll have more prisoners than prison space very shortly. How can you deny that these demographics are upon us? How?
I did not say or even imply anything of the sort. That is a ridiculous accusation and I ask that you retract it at once. Where on earth did you get this from?
Euphonious Polemic, “stupid and gullible” came from a post of yours to Leaffan, which he agreed with. RickJay, despite his obvious distaste for the Liberals and NDP, has never said or implied such.
Um, yes. No one has disputed that. However, the legislator writes the laws, including those things that are felonies, and the sentencing guidelines.
To quote the National Post (that’s a iittle to the left of the Sun; will that be an okay cite)
“Ottawa is scrambling to expand the penitentiary system as quickly as possible to house a surging inmate population. One legislative change alone — the abolishment of the two-for-one pre-trial custody credit — is expected to add 4,000 more inmates to the system over the next five years, according to estimates by the Parliamentary Budget Officer.”
Sure, 400 people a year isn’t a lot, even at 35 grand a pop, but it isn’t “so fucking what” territory.
You are correct. Well, sort of. We’re closing schools here in Toronto. People would flinch if we tried to open more. But your general point is true. Prisons are not schools. Well, except for "how to commit more crime.
You should probably consider going outside and enjoying the night air. Seriously. Yes, crime is at it’s lowest in 30 years, and dropping. That means we need fewer, not more prisons.
Crime is dropping faster than population is increasing. How can you deny that?
Since I’m not the one trying to spend billions to build more prisons, how about you show me a cite?
Specifically, that without Harper’s changes to the federal crime code (that’s written by the legislator - glad we cleared that up), prison populations would climb.
Gosh, a whole five minutes while I was off reviewing the “Game of Thrones” thread? So sorry. I shall from now on offer you my undivided attention. Or not.
Look, making room for the prisoners already in jail is one thing. I’ve clearly stated that I agree with that. Your argument is that Canada needs to make room for many more anticipated prisoners. Planning for the future, right? Why do you anticipate many more prisoners?
