# The Canadope Café, 2014 Edition: In 3-D!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612 "2014-01-01T05:07:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 26

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/501 "2014-02-25T23:36:33Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Where on earth did you get that idea from. Give me a break.

She is equating the fact that a substance is being made legal for adults to giving it to her children. If that’s true they must already be drinking and smoking.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/502 "2014-02-25T23:47:24Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> Rule #1 for posting: Context. Place a link in your post to whatever you are jabbering on about so the rest of us know wtf you are referring to.

[Here you go:](http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/02/25/justin-trudeau-apologizes-after-drawing-fire-for-silly-olympic-hockey-ukraine-joke/)

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> “It’s very worrisome,” Trudeau said after telling the panel that he now considers Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to be illegitimate. “Especially since Russia lost in hockey, they will be in a bad mood. We are afraid of a Russian intervention in Ukraine.”
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> “Only because of hockey?” the show’s host, Guy A. Lepage, asked Trudeau.
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> “No,” Trudeau replied. “It is an attempt to bring a light view of a situation that is extremely serious.”

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/503 "2014-02-25T23:48:31Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> She is equating the fact that a substance is being made legal for adults to giving it to her children. If that’s true they must already be drinking and smoking.

That’s not what I got out of it.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/504 "2014-02-26T00:55:17Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> That’s not what I got out of it.

It’s an inevitable question about the ad. The woman is concerned that marijuana is legal and so that her kids will use it, but why, then, is she not calling for alcohol and cigarettes to be illegal?

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/505 "2014-02-26T00:58:29Z")

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::tiptoes into the thread::

This place is still the Canadian hangout, eh?

I’ve been away for a long time, but I have a couple of good excuses. Work, new house, broken computer (finally got it fixed, hence being able to actually get online with something other than my phone!) and the general exhaustion that comes with expecting a baby…!

I’m actually due at the start of April - I’m on leave in less than 4 weeks, so I would think I might have more time at home to sit and actually read these boards (assuming baby lets me!)

I just wanted to say hi to everyone and let you know I haven’t forgotten about this place!

I hope all is well with everyone!

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/506 "2014-02-26T01:05:57Z")

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Welcome back, **mnemosyne**! Great to have you back with us!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/507 "2014-02-26T01:38:44Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> The only thing I question based on this ad is why this mother is giving her kids alcohol and cigarettes.

She’s not giving her kids alcohol and cigarettes - she’d like them to be purchased from shady people in shady places and of dubious quality, just like pot is. 🙂

> [@Leaffan](#):
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> It wasn’t terribly egregious, but the fact that he attempted to make a joke about the Ukrainian situation, and Russia’s potential response to, you know, people being murdered in the streets was very glib and shallow.
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> Let’s be honest here; if the Prime Minister attempted a similar joke he would have been roasted, especially since mainstream media in Canada has a major disliking of the Conservatives.

Justin Trudeau is a useless tit. I don’t think his joke was all that egregious either, but damn, son, pick your moments!

> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> ::tiptoes into the thread::
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> This place is still the Canadian hangout, eh?\<snip\>

Hey, welcome back! Yup, this is still where we hang out and be as Canadian as we want to be. 😃

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/508 "2014-02-26T01:49:42Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> ::tiptoes into the thread::
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> This place is still the Canadian hangout, eh?  
> …

mnemosyne!!!

First of all, congratulations of your upcoming addition to the family!

Second, yay! Welcome back! I missed your wise advice and funny comments.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/509 "2014-02-26T04:07:35Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> She’s not giving her kids alcohol and cigarettes - she’d like them to be purchased from shady people in shady places and of dubious quality, just like pot is. 🙂

Ah. 7-Eleven.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/510 "2014-02-26T04:11:39Z")

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yay, \*\* mnemosyne\*\* - thanks for coming back!!

We were worrying about you a few months ago over in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16863467&postcount=56).

Congrats on the upcoming addition!

(And from the joy of seeing you back, we’ll refrain from re-hashing last year’s east semi-final… 😉 )

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/511 "2014-02-26T05:13:25Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> The second ad on this page.
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> [What's New in Canadian Online Gambling Industry in 2025?](http://blogs.canoe.ca/davidakin/politics/conservative-radio-attack-ads-target-justin-trudeau/)
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> The only thing I question based on this ad is why this mother is giving her kids alcohol and cigarettes.

I heard that ad on the radio last weekend and I thought the logic was odd. Are they suggesting that alcohol and cigarettes are relatively harmless? Or are they suggesting that alcohol and cigarettes should be illegal like pot?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/512 "2014-02-26T08:23:57Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> She’s not giving her kids alcohol and cigarettes …

That’s what I got from it–that she doesn’t want marijuana to be as available as tobacco and alcohol.

Never mind that tobacco and alcohol are carded for in all Canadian jurisdictions, and most if not all have a “25 or under” carding policy. I would expect legal marijuana to have the same limits.

Me, I dislike marijuana and its effects. Still, many enjoy it. If it is legalized, I’d like to see stricter enforcement of the CC s. 253(1)(a) laws on impairment. Toke all you like, just don’t drive. Obviously, I’d also support some kind of threshold for usage, enforced by a breathalyzer/whatever tests for this at the roadside; as well as the equivalent of the Intoxilyzer if reasonable grounds are found at the roadside.

In short, I don’t care if marijuana is legalized. I just don’t want anybody impaired driving, no matter what the substance.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/513 "2014-02-26T13:24:42Z")

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Honestly these days we’re more at risk from driving while texting than we are from driving while impaired.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/514 "2014-02-26T15:40:19Z")

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[**Liseria threat**](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/caesar-salad-recalled-over-possible-listeria-contamination-1.2551850) leads to caesar-salad recall from B.C. to Ontario.

> [@](#):
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> The Canadian Food Inspection Agency has put a recall notice on three brands of caesar salad products because of possible Listeria contamination.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/515 "2014-02-26T16:07:21Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> That’s not what I got out of it.

It’s a foolish ad, comparing alcohol and cigarettes with pot.

What can the message possibly be? To my mind, the comparison works like this: I would not want my kids smoking and drinking, any more than I would want them smoking pot - so both booze/smokes and pot should be treated the same: either make 'em all illegal, or make 'em all legal, but with the sort of no-selling-to-minors laws that already exist for booze and smokes.

In either way, the ad does not work well for the conservatives. If they think booze and ciggys should be illegal because kids might get them, why aren’t they passing such laws now? If they don’t care about the dangers of booze and smokes in the hands of kids, why mention them in the ad?

Clearly they don’t think pot should be legal. So why are they comparing the two? They need to make the case that pot is fundamentally different from booze and smokes in some manner and so should be legally different, not that it is similar!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/516 "2014-02-27T03:25:07Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Honestly these days we’re more at risk from driving while texting than we are from driving while impaired.

Certainly in Saskatchewan: distracted drivers are now the leading cause of fatal accidents, ahead of impaired drivers.

[Sask. police set sights on distracted driving; top cause of fatal crashes](http://globalnews.ca/news/1133419/sask-police-set-sights-on-distracted-driving-top-cause-of-fatal-crashes/)

> [@](#):
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> Police across Saskatchewan are on the lookout for distracted drivers, including those who are eating, applying makeup, reading or using cellphones to talk or text
> 
> Saskatchewan Government Insurance says distracted driving is the focus of traffic safety this month.
> 
> Officials say distracted driving has been the No. 1 factor in all crashes in Saskatchewan for the last two years – even ahead of impaired driving.
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> SGI says that in 2012 there were more than 7,500 collisions related to distracted driving that cost 69 people their lives.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/517 "2014-02-27T05:54:19Z")

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I posted in the Pit Monday about how Jim and I were almost taken out by a distracted driver earlier that day - a woman was driving 40 kph in a 70 zone, we were about to go around the road hazard, when a truck merged into the lane we were about to change into from the left. There was slamming on of brakes and we managed not to hit anyone. As we drove past the woman on the phone (glaring as hard as humanly possible), she seemed completely unaware that she was in the process of trying to kill everyone around her.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/518 "2014-02-27T06:02:02Z")

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What are the cell phone laws whist driving in your province, CanaDopers. It’s illegal here in Ontario and they just upped the fine from something like $150 to something like $280. That’s as accurate as I can get for now as my battery is dying, and so am I.

Bon soir.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/519 "2014-02-27T11:52:36Z")

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$172.50 in New Brunswick plus 3 demerits on your license (10 demerits and your license can be suspended).

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/520 "2014-02-27T14:44:50Z")

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Here’s the CAA summary of cell phone laws across Canada: [CAA Distracted Driving](http://distracteddriving.caa.ca/education/distracted-driving-laws-in-canada.php)

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