# The Canadope Café, 2014 Edition: In 3-D! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612 "2014-01-01T05:07:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/621 "2014-03-08T00:27:10Z")
Here’s one source which mentions this same tendency in the word “father” (same sound, in general, as “not/got”): “The [ɑ] vowel of the word [ˈfɑðɹ̩] is unrounded in most dialects of English, though in Canadian English it is often rounded at least a little.” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/622 "2014-03-08T00:31:41Z")
[http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~krussll/phonetics/articulation/describing-vowels.html](http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~krussll/phonetics/articulation/describing-vowels.html) ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/623 "2014-03-08T03:50:03Z")
I never knew having the right accent was so important for porn. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/624 "2014-03-08T05:20:53Z")
> [@Athabasca](#): > > Isn’t the about/aboot fallacy exposed already? No one I know does this. I live in Winnipeg, and have lived in Edmonton, Vancouver, and visited extensively in the east. No…one…says…aboot. I used to think it was a myth too, but I actually met a woman who said “aboot” once. She was a Bank of Montreal employee in Waterloo, Ontario. I was thunderstruck; it was like seeing a unicorn working at McDonald’s. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/625 "2014-03-08T15:33:02Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > I never knew having the right accent was so important for porn. That should be “poorn”, to meet the Canadian content rules. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/626 "2014-03-08T15:41:40Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > That should be “poorn”, to meet the Canadian content rules. 🆒 _ahem_ _On a oublié la traduction obligatoire!_ ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/627 "2014-03-08T15:55:53Z")
> [@Dr\_Doom](#): > > I think this entire “Canadian accent” thing is far overblown. > > The Maritimes definitely have varying degrees of Irish- and Scottish-influenced accents, and of course Quebec is French. I’ve met some people from BC who have a tinge of “surfer dude” to their speech, but that’s it. I’m confused; are you not aware that people in the rest of Canada do in fact have a rather distinct accent that is generally pretty similar across most of English-speaking Canada? We DO say “about” differently. No ,it’s not quite “aboot,” but to American ears it’s very close. I mean, I know it’s OUR accent, but we do have one. _Everyone has an accent._ ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/628 "2014-03-08T16:05:00Z")
And of course, the traditional Prairie pronunciation of whore: hoore. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/629 "2014-03-08T16:13:08Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > And of course, the traditional Prairie pronunciation of whore: hoore. That’s how we said it too in the 70s in southern Ontario, till we got edumacated. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/630 "2014-03-08T16:37:47Z")
Then there’s the pasta, Mazda pronunciation where Canadians sound both vowels the same, as in Santa, where as Americans rhyme the first a with saw, or paw. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/631 "2014-03-09T00:07:31Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > _ahem_ > _On a oublié la traduction obligatoire!_ Sorry about that. “Le moaaaaan…” ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/632 "2014-03-09T00:24:15Z")
Remember the [dubbing scene](http://youtu.be/hiBBl4bNINM?t=8m13s) from _Jésus de Montréal_? NSFW!! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/633 "2014-03-09T02:44:01Z")
In fairness to the Americans who say we say “aboot”, there is a clear difference in the way Canadians and Americans pronounce “poor” and “roof.” To me, Americans pronounce those words as “pore” and “ruff.” I assume they hear us saying “pooooor” and “rooooof”. ---
**Author:** ![kbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4491bb/32.png) [@kbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kbear)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/634 "2014-03-09T11:45:21Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Torontonians have a particular accent, too - you can hear it on most of the on-air talent on the Weather Network. We call it “The Toronto Valley Girl” accent. Reason (where the heck is the number sign on a MAC keyboard?) 173 why I don’t want to move back to Toronto. I’ve become quite attached to the dozens of different accents that surround me in the UK. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/635 "2014-03-09T17:53:53Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > In fairness to the Americans who say we say “aboot”, there is a clear difference in the way Canadians and Americans pronounce “poor” and “roof.” > > To me, Americans pronounce those words as “pore” and “ruff.” I assume they hear us saying “pooooor” and “rooooof”. The pronunciation of “roof” varies in the USA. “Roof” in the Canadian style, with the same OO sound as “Booth,” is actually more common in the northeast and Mid-Atlantic. The further south and west you go the more you hear “ruff.” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/636 "2014-03-09T18:02:32Z")
North Dakotans in my experience say “ruff” and “pore”. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/637 "2014-03-09T18:10:12Z")
Interesting decision from the Supreme Court: [man Who Poked Holes in Condoms Guilty of Sexual Assault](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17174763). Seems pretty consistent with the Court’s cases about HIV positive people committing an assault if they have sex without disclosing their status. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/638 "2014-03-09T23:06:18Z")
[Pierre Karl Péladeau is now running as a PQ candidate in Saint Jérome.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-votes-2014/pierre-karl-p%C3%A9ladeau-to-run-for-pq-in-saint-j%C3%A9r%C3%B4me-1.2565855) Meanwhile, he pledges that his media empire will maintain its ‘editorial independence’. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/639 "2014-03-10T05:36:06Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > [Pierre Karl Péladeau is now running as a PQ candidate in Saint Jérome.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-votes-2014/pierre-karl-p%C3%A9ladeau-to-run-for-pq-in-saint-j%C3%A9r%C3%B4me-1.2565855) Meanwhile, he pledges that his media empire will maintain its ‘editorial independence’. Somehow, I can’t see Sun Media supporting the PQ. I cannot say the same for Peladeau’s Quebec-based media, but I don’t think English-language Sun papers and TV will be anything but neutral, at best. At any rate, this will be an election to watch. How will the PQ’s proposed “Charter of Values” affect voters’ decisions? If there is a majority PQ government, how long will it be before Quebec holds another referendum? Will the question accord with the Clarity Act, or will it somehow skirt that? Or will the PQ be handed another minority government? Or will the Liberals win, even a minority? I don’t think anybody at this point can answer those questions. All we can do right now is watch and see. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/640 "2014-03-10T12:57:19Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I’m confused; are you not aware that people in the rest of Canada do in fact have a rather distinct accent that is generally pretty similar across most of English-speaking Canada? If you’d read further, you mightn’t be confused. I later qualified to **JKellyMap** what I’d stated. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612.md?page=33)