# The Canadope Café, 2014 Edition: In 3-D! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612 "2014-01-01T05:07:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/661 "2014-03-14T17:06:21Z")
Maybe I’m wrong (it’s happened once or twice 🙂 ) and the general population of Quebec does indeed get how Separation would go for them, but I really don’t get that impression from what I’ve heard and read. Do we have any Quebec Dopers available for a comment? ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/662 "2014-03-14T20:27:01Z")
Well a poll from a couple of weeks ago indicated that if a referendum were held “Would you vote for an independent Quebec”, a very clear question. I think it was something like 61% voted no. So I believe a lot of them are aware what it real independence means, or should mean anyways. More interesting CBC not long ago conducted a survey regarding leaving Quebec. They asked if the PQ won a majority would you leave, they were particularly interested in Quebec Anglos which I believe 50% of them would consider leaving. But what was interesting was that 11% of Francophones polled answered the same, they’d consider moving out as well. 50% of anglophones isn’t a large number but 11% of Francophones is about 700 000. I think it would be bad for everyone if they did separate, but more so for Quebec. But I don’t think there will be any “please stay” rallies in Montreal this time, and I don’t think there should be. If they want to go, go. If it’s independence the want, it should be independence they get, and if we have a PM in power at the time that tries to negotiate anything less than that, we owe it to our country to collectively lose our shit and not allow that to happen. Enough, I’ve had enough. That’s why I’m moving to Ottawa this July anyways. I’d rather move further west to be honest. But Ottawa will have to do for now. I’m not moving out mad, just moving out. Because the political/economic climate here has exhausted me. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/663 "2014-03-15T02:41:45Z")
At least the [seven day forecast](http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/The+Rick+Mercer+Report/ID/2441559696/) is looking better. (From the Rick Mercer Report) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/664 "2014-03-15T03:06:42Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > At least the [seven day forecast](http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/The+Rick+Mercer+Report/ID/2441559696/) is looking better. (From the Rick Mercer Report) 🙂 Hah. That actually reminds me of [a post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508693) I once made on that very subject. I was quite proud of that post. Astonishingly, they didn’t do that to us this year. I mean, sure, February and the beginning of March were ludicrously cold, but the forecast never gave us any false hope. And then when it did start looking up, the warm weather actually arrived on schedule. We had three whole days above zero this week! ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/665 "2014-03-15T13:07:23Z")
A damned raccoon died on my back deck last night. The dogs are going crazy. Would animal control remove it? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/666 "2014-03-15T18:06:55Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > At least the [seven day forecast](http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/The+Rick+Mercer+Report/ID/2441559696/) is looking better. (From the Rick Mercer Report) 🙂 Could you please summarize for those of us who don’t have Flash? (Who the hell has Flash these days? CBC is so last millennium!) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/667 "2014-03-15T18:34:40Z")
So download flash. It’s free ya know. It’s a comedy bit where a husband (Rick) and wife are fed up with winter. I tried summarizing it but can’t do it justice. It sums up how all of us the east feel about this damned winter. It’s always going to be above zero at some point, but we just never seem to get there. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/668 "2014-03-15T18:58:14Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Could you please summarize for those of us who don’t have Flash? (Who the hell has Flash these days? CBC is so last millennium!) Here’s the [YouTube version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDvqQKGgDA) - I can’t do justice to their performances on this one… ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/669 "2014-03-15T20:14:15Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Here’s the [YouTube version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDvqQKGgDA) - I can’t do justice to their performances on this one… Thanks - that was great! That is indeed exactly how it seems to go once the cold socks in. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/670 "2014-03-15T20:33:27Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Thanks - that was great! That is indeed exactly how it seems to go once the cold socks in. It was… _plus one_ today! There was even a bit of sunshine! But when I got to the train station, there was a cold-weather alert and the screens said it was going to drop to [del]-10[/del] Sorry. -14… As I boarded the train, it started to snow. :: sob :: ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/671 "2014-03-15T21:07:08Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > It was… _plus one_ today! There was even a bit of sunshine! > > But when I got to the train station, there was a cold-weather alert and the screens said it was going to drop to [del]-10[/del] Sorry. -14… As I boarded the train, it started to snow. > :: sob :: But what will it be in 7 days? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/672 "2014-03-15T22:21:14Z")
Having spoken of dangerous drivers on Highway 17 in this thread before, I spotted[this video](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/distracted-driving-charge-laid-after-kenora-crash-video-goes-viral-1.2572517)from someone’s dashboard camera. Spoiler - everyone is all right, but this must have been terrifying… The driver of the vehicle that was hit is being charged with distracted driving. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/673 "2014-03-16T16:27:14Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Having spoken of dangerous drivers on Highway 17 in this thread before, I spotted[this video](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/distracted-driving-charge-laid-after-kenora-crash-video-goes-viral-1.2572517)from someone’s dashboard camera. Spoiler - everyone is all right, but this must have been terrifying… The driver of the vehicle that was hit is being charged with distracted driving. I’ve been known to say things like, “Distracted drivers should be charged with attempted murder.” I’m just trying to go get some groceries here - I don’t need these thoughtless assholes trying to kill me every time I get on the road. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/674 "2014-03-16T17:49:53Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Having spoken of dangerous drivers on Highway 17 in this thread before, I spotted[this video](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/distracted-driving-charge-laid-after-kenora-crash-video-goes-viral-1.2572517)from someone’s dashboard camera. Spoiler - everyone is all right, but this must have been terrifying… The driver of the vehicle that was hit is being charged with distracted driving. I’ve seen this before. Did someone else link to it previously? Or maybe I just saw it elsewhere? It’s my worst nightmare driving highway 17 daily. Actually it’s my worst nightmare being a passenger on highway 17 daily. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/675 "2014-03-16T22:57:01Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > I’ve seen this before. Did someone else link to it previously? Or maybe I just saw it elsewhere? > It’s my worst nightmare driving highway 17 daily. Actually it’s my worst nightmare being a passenger on highway 17 daily. I’ve been watching ‘Car Crash Compilation 7’ videos on YouTube. A couple of things I’ve learned: get a dash cam - it is the only way to prove you weren’t at fault when trying to avoid idiots on the road. Also, never drive a motorcycle - never ever. I’m glad I’m in transit friendly Hong Kong ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/676 "2014-03-17T02:20:24Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > I’ve seen this before. Did someone else link to it previously? Or maybe I just saw it elsewhere? > It’s my worst nightmare driving highway 17 daily. Actually it’s my worst nightmare being a passenger on highway 17 daily. I think it was linked previously in this thread - it was familiar to me, too. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/677 "2014-03-17T05:14:15Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I think it was linked previously in this thread - it was familiar to me, too. We did have it before–I believe that **Muffin** brought it up. Still, it has been in the news lately again, as the pickup truck’s driver has been formally charged. And let’s face it, there is no harm in being reminded of the dangers of distracted driving. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/678 "2014-03-17T11:29:27Z")
Sorry 'bout that - I remembered the one with the two trucks almost colliding, but I missed this one the first time around. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/679 "2014-03-18T17:01:46Z")
There was a good [article in the Globe and Mail](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economy-lab/the-staggering-price-of-quebec-independence/article17529502/#dashboard/follows/)on the ‘price’ of separation. Sadly, it’s in English, and so, will be dismissed as fear-mongering by the PQ… ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/680 "2014-03-18T17:18:06Z")
How would separation affect the economy of the ROC when one considers the economic PQ would take? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612.md?page=35)