# The Canadope Café, 2014 Edition: In 3-D!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612 "2014-01-01T05:07:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/801 "2014-04-02T02:16:49Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> I think it is pretty clear what he is going to be. I don’t know what you are unsure of at this point?

Well, not according to Liberal supporters who lead in the polls. I’m pretty sure this guy will be our next Prime Minister; a pretty boy, an intellectual light weight. I respect disagreement but I’m not sure I want this guy talking to Putin, Merkel, Cameron, Obama, etc. Really?

Yes, he is in over his head. What the fuck were the Liberals thinking with this guy, as opposed to Marc Garneau for example. Totally of of touch with reality.

And I know we have lots of Liberal supporters here, so I’m not picking a fight, I’m just putting forth my position.

Feel free to bash the conservatives accordingly; they also deserve abuse.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/802 "2014-04-02T02:24:55Z")

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Heh. I should elaborate. I’m ‘sure’ he will be an embarrassment. I’m baffled that anyone at all would doubt that. When a person’s sole qualification for the position is that his father once held it, then what you have is a monarchy, not a democracy.  
And considering we already have a Queen who has dopey kids that we have no control over, I’m not sure why we need to duplicate that in Parliament with those we have the ability to elect.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/803 "2014-04-02T04:36:44Z")

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Trudeau strikes me as being more of a red Tory than a true Grit. But so was his old man.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/804 "2014-04-02T04:39:03Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> AOn a completely unrelated note, what do you guys think of [Justin Trudeau dropping the F-bomb at a charity event recently?](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/justin-trudeau-shrugs-off-criticism-over-dropping-f-bomb-at-charity-boxing-match/article17747496/) My feeling is, meh, people swear, but I also question his judgement. If he plans to represent Canada on the international stage, I’d like to be sure that he’s not going to be an embarrassment.

Not just a charity event, a boxing match.

So let’s put Trudeau the boxer and Putin the wrestler in a match together. Now that’s diplomacy! 😃

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/805 "2014-04-02T04:44:20Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> What the fuck were the Liberals thinking with this guy, as opposed to Marc Garneau for example.

Winning the election.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/806 "2014-04-02T04:46:23Z")

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The ski hill the next road over is closed. Why you might ask, given that we are waist deep in snow with temps holding at a bit below freezing? Too much ice was the reason given.

What type of ice you might ask? The snow-ice mix that is ideal for carving fast, clean turns.

We are _not_ amused. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/807 "2014-04-02T05:28:15Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Not just a charity event, a boxing match.
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> So let’s put Trudeau the boxer and Putin the wrestler in a match together. Now that’s diplomacy! 😃

Winner takes the northern part of the world!

Actually, that’s a terrible idea - Justin Trudeau against Putin would be like a baby versus a grizzly bear.

Yeah, I don’t see Justin doing well on the international stage - his father made a hobby of baiting US Americans, but I don’t see the former Prime Minister’s intellect and charisma in his son. He seems like a nice enough guy, but that’s not what you need in a country’s leader.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/808 "2014-04-02T05:35:25Z")

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I don’t think he has the intellectual chops that his father had.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/809 "2014-04-02T14:33:14Z")

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I’m not trying to provoke the Conservative supporters in this thread, either, but - the grain shipments are screwed, the health care accord just expired with nothing to take its place, and there isn’t a single, credible voice coming out in support of the Fair Elections Act.

Compared to which, a potential Prime Minister who said ‘Fuck’ in public is supposed to generate outrage? I’m surprised a lot more people aren’t saying ‘Fuck’!!

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/810 "2014-04-02T14:34:43Z")

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He shoulda said “fuddle-duddle”. 😃

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/811 "2014-04-02T15:40:19Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> I’m not trying to provoke the Conservative supporters in this thread, either, but - the grain shipments are screwed, the health care accord just expired with nothing to take its place, and there isn’t a single, credible voice coming out in support of the Fair Elections Act.
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> Compared to which, a potential Prime Minister who said ‘Fuck’ in public is supposed to generate outrage? I’m surprised a lot more people aren’t saying ‘Fuck’!!

I, quite frankly, don’t like Trudeau; but it would be a refreshing change of pace to have a PM that isn’t **irrationally** paranoid against: the press, the academia, the bureaucracy, the governmental system of procedural checks/balances, the house, other parties, the public, etc.

The only people/group the PM doesn’t fear is his own party members and that’s only because the PM’s office has strict oversight/control over all of their public actions to a near military style level.

This is a party that has no desire/motivation/vision beyond the last election. It’s like they were so happy to get a majority government (through Harper’s leadership) that they forgot about trying to win the next one.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/812 "2014-04-02T16:00:14Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> He shoulda said “fuddle-duddle”. 😃

Heh - my response when I first heard was, “The f-bomb doesn’t fall far from the tree.” 😃

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/813 "2014-04-02T16:23:27Z")

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Harper rules rather than leads. Less preferable than Trudeau.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/814 "2014-04-02T18:50:12Z")

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I don’t get the obsession with Marc Garneau. He was an astronaut, great. That doesn’t mean he’d make a good Prime Minister.

Meanwhile, the Parti Quebecois’ henchmen are now pretty openly engaging in some of the most blatant vote suppression in the history of Canada, regularly rejecting the eligibility of people whose names aren’t French enough.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/815 "2014-04-02T18:54:48Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I don’t get the obsession with Marc Garneau. He was an astronaut, great. That doesn’t mean he’d make a good Prime Minister.

Well, he also has a Ph.D and was a naval captain. I just think he’s more suited to the world stage; that’s all. And certainly more leadership experience.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/816 "2014-04-02T18:59:19Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Meanwhile, the Parti Quebecois’ henchmen are now pretty openly engaging in some of the most blatant vote suppression in the history of Canada, regularly rejecting the eligibility of people whose names aren’t French enough.

And apparently, one of those rejected as a voter is a candidate in the election. From today’s [National Post](http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/04/02/quebec-election-officials-deemed-these-five-voters-ineligible-to-cast-a-ballot/):

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> Brendan Edge, 21, is running for the Green Party of Quebec in the riding of Chomedey. He has lived in Quebec for three years, pays taxes in the province and presumably has some interest in local affairs. None of this was sufficient to convince an elections officer, who rejected a batch of Mr. Edge’s lease agreements as proof of domicile, and even claimed that Mr. Edge was not registered as a candidate (he is)…

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/817 "2014-04-02T21:23:16Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Meanwhile, the Parti Quebecois’ henchmen are now pretty openly engaging in some of the most blatant vote suppression in the history of Canada, regularly rejecting the eligibility of people whose names aren’t French enough.

It’s disgusting.

It doesn’t matter what they provide as proof, because according to the bigots since they’re an out of province non francophone student they’re not going to be nor never will be real Quebecers anyways. Even if they do in fact plan to live here, based on the current laws they should be allowed to vote.

I’ve ran into this “not a real Quebecer” mentality before personally, and I speak pretty good French. It wasn’t as ugly and violating as being revoked your basic right to vote but it’s here.

What’s kind of not surprising about the voting suppression issue, I believe the Ottawa/Feds have a responsibility at some point to investigate if any monkey business is taking part at the provincial level that goes unresolved. But nothing has happened yet, and I predict nothing will ever happen, business as usual.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/818 "2014-04-02T22:50:26Z")

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Since they don’t like democracy, they should leave.

Oh, wait a minute . . .

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/819 "2014-04-02T22:53:41Z")

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Spring has officially arrived. I spent an hour in a golf shirt after work plowing the drive with a riding blower. We’re not even getting another snowstorm until tomorrow night.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/820 "2014-04-03T15:27:55Z")

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Our snowstorm last night only dropped a skiff of snow - much better! And we expect to get above zero today! Woo Hoo!

The next very nice day we have on a weekend is going to be Spring Day - I’m living for it.

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