# The Canadope Café, 2014 Edition: In 3-D!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612 "2014-01-01T05:07:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1041 "2014-05-07T12:54:35Z")

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It was only a matter of time before things like this started popping up… 😉

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1042 "2014-05-07T14:11:59Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Ah. Yes. Thankfully appears so.

Parody or not I’m still having nightmares after clicking that link ☹

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1043 "2014-05-07T17:48:28Z")

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[Farley Mowat](http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/05/07/canadian-literary-icon-farley-mowat-dead-at-92) dead at 92. ☹

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1044 "2014-05-08T04:08:39Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> [Farley Mowat](http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/05/07/canadian-literary-icon-farley-mowat-dead-at-92) dead at 92. ☹

I read a lot of his books when I was younger. I never really got into his later works involving environmentalism, but I did enjoy _The Dog Who Wouldn’t Be_, and _The Boat who Wouldn’t Float_, as well as his books on his service in WWII (_The Regiment_ and _And No Birds Sang_). I think I still have them someplace–I should try to find them and reread them. They were good books.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1045 "2014-05-08T04:14:18Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I read a lot of his books when I was younger. I never really got into his later works involving environmentalism, but I did enjoy _The Dog Who Wouldn’t Be_, and _The Boat who Wouldn’t Float_, as well as his books on his service in WWII (_The Regiment_ and _And No Birds Sang_). I think I still have them someplace–I should try to find them and reread them. They were good books.

I read _Never Cry Wolf_, _The Dog Who Wouldn’t Be_, and one other that I’m having a hard time recalling. Excellent stories.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1046 "2014-05-08T11:29:30Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I read a lot of his books when I was younger.

I was required to read a number of his books when I was younger because they were part of the Saskatoon school curriculum (e.g. Owls in the Family). I was more into sci-fi/fantasy back then, so I thought they were fairly dull stuff, but maybe I’d appreciate his work more as an adult.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1047 "2014-05-08T12:41:48Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I read a lot of his books when I was younger. I never really got into his later works involving environmentalism, but I did enjoy _The Dog Who Wouldn’t Be_, and _The Boat who Wouldn’t Float_, as well as his books on his service in WWII (_The Regiment_ and _And No Birds Sang_). I think I still have them someplace–I should try to find them and reread them. They were good books.

**Spoons** , we had the same reading list!

I always found the difference between the Regiment and No Birds fascinating. The Regiment is a typical gung-ho young soldier’s account, speaking of war as the “experience of a lifetime” sort of thing. No Birds is a much more personal account, from a mature man looking back, willing to talk about the horrors of war in a way that he probably couldn’t when he first came back from overseas.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1048 "2014-05-08T12:45:58Z")

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And the Canadian Council of Law Deans has joined the calls for the PM to backdown from his attack on the Chief Justice:

[Law-school deans join critics of Harper’s attack on top judge](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/law-school-deans-join-critics-of-harpers-attack-on-top-judge/article18510787/)

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> But the deans said “the facts that have come to light confirm, to the contrary, that the Chief Justice’s actions were beyond reproach and consistent with the dignity of her office.”
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> The deans urged the Prime Minister and Mr. MacKay to “immediately and unequivocally withdraw any statement that could be understood as impugning the integrity of the Chief Justice and the independence of the Supreme Court of Canada.”
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> They went on to point to the legal community’s wide opposition to the PMO’s statement. The Canadian Bar Association (representing 37,000 lawyers and judges), the Advocates Society and 11 former presidents of the Canadian Bar Association, have issued similar calls on the Prime Minister to withdraw his criticisms of Chief Justice McLachlin.
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> “There are very few issues on which all members of the legal community spontaneously agree,” the deans said.
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> “The unanimous condemnation of the government’s statements regarding Chief Justice McLachlin reflects our shared sentiment that this is an unfortunate and unprecedented attack on one of the most important institutions of Canada’s constitutional democracy.”

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1049 "2014-05-08T13:40:20Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> [Farley Mowat](http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/05/07/canadian-literary-icon-farley-mowat-dead-at-92) dead at 92. ☹

I really enjoyed a few of his books and would read more if I bumped into them.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1050 "2014-05-08T14:02:34Z")

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I’ve been reading about his books and it turns out I haven’t read the entire The Dog Who Wouldn’t Be but I did read a chapter in a book of short stories about dogs. I’d love to find that book again but a quick google is not helping.  
I did read The Boat Who Wouldn’t Float, Never Cry Wolf, and The Serpent’s Coil (about hurricanes)

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1051 "2014-05-09T03:43:16Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> **Spoons** , we had the same reading list!
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> I always found the difference between the Regiment and No Birds fascinating. The Regiment is a typical gung-ho young soldier’s account, speaking of war as the “experience of a lifetime” sort of thing. No Birds is a much more personal account, from a mature man looking back, willing to talk about the horrors of war in a way that he probably couldn’t when he first came back from overseas.

We must have.

In fairness, my Dad had met Farley Mowat a few times before I was born, and Dad became a fan for life, so he had a number of the books. Dad’s library was varied and interesting, and comprised of a surprising amount of Canadiana: Farley Mowat, Angus Mowat (Farley’s father), and Greg Clark (anybody remember him?), among others.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1052 "2014-05-10T04:09:06Z")

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Tim Hudak; “I will fire one hundred thousand people.”

Aaaand campaign over, Tim loses.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1053 "2014-05-10T05:19:09Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Tim Hudak; “I will fire one hundred thousand people.”
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> Aaaand campaign over, Tim loses.

I couldn’t believe he said that. Chickens in 100,000 fewer pots and Benett buggies in 100,000 garages. I LOL’d and predicted another Liberal/NDP NDP/Liberal government. I’ll bet there’s a run on Tory sackcloth and ashes.

What a maroon.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1054 "2014-05-10T11:15:50Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Tim Hudak; “I will fire one hundred thousand people.”
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> Aaaand campaign over, Tim loses.

It appeals to the true conservatives, but he had their vote already. It won’t help convince swing voters. But really, we need to do something of significance to balance the budget, and I’m not convinced the Liberals or NDP will ever be able to do that. We’re worse off per capita than California now. What the fuck should we do? Nothing?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1055 "2014-05-11T03:18:14Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> It appeals to the true conservatives, but he had their vote already. It won’t help convince swing voters. But really, we need to do something of significance to balance the budget, and I’m not convinced the Liberals or NDP will ever be able to do that. We’re worse off per capita than California now. What the fuck should we do? Nothing?

I’m not saying he’s the wrong choice, I’m saying he’s saying the wrong things.

Hudak is stupid, at least when it comes to campaigning. You do not say things like “I’ll fire 100,000 people but it won’t affect your services” because even your base will not believe you. It’s a transparent lie. He’s campaigning against an awful government and, somehow, he’s managed to shoot all the bullets at himself. Why is he not running on a platform of being things the Liberals are not - like, you know, honest? Scandal-free?

Adding to this that Andrea Horwath is widely despised in her own party, and deservedly so - she is an absolutely horrible person - and has turned off her own base, the Liberals could get away with it, incredibly enough.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1056 "2014-05-11T03:32:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I’m not saying he’s the wrong choice, I’m saying he’s saying the wrong things.
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> Hudak is stupid, at least when it comes to campaigning. You do not say things like “I’ll fire 100,000 people but it won’t affect your services” because even your base will not believe you. It’s a transparent lie. He’s campaigning against an awful government and, somehow, he’s managed to shoot all the bullets at himself. Why is he not running on a platform of being things the Liberals are not - like, you know, honest? Scandal-free?
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> Adding to this that Andrea Horwath is widely despised in her own party, and deservedly so - she is an absolutely horrible person - and has turned off her own base, the Liberals could get away with it, incredibly enough.

Well, it depends what news outlet you read. Most of the cuts will come from privatization, which would eventually alleviate the province of gold-plated pensions.  
As a federal employee who will soon be privatized, I have no problem with it. Let’s get serious about this province, and this country’s finances and try not to bankrupt our children or grandchildren. I know it sounds clichéd, but really, we still have a opportunity to get back on track here in Canada. I’m afraid the US will never, ever be able to balance their books. I hope we don’t get to that point.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1057 "2014-05-11T04:02:56Z")

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Been through the Mike Harris nonsense; not interested in putting up with it again.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1058 "2014-05-11T04:20:23Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Been through the Mike Harris nonsense; not interested in putting up with it again.

Loved Mike Harris. We need another common sense revolution right now.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1059 "2014-05-11T04:37:13Z")

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His cutting the tax base resulted in increasing the debt by 20 billion in his first term, in addition to his heavy downloading onto municipalities, which was no more than robbing Peter to pay Paul. that not good financial management in my books.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1060 "2014-05-11T04:54:19Z")

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Yeah, and at the same time the federal liberals reduced transfer payments to Ontario by 30 billion dollars. Go figure.

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