# The Canadope Café, 2014 Edition: In 3-D!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612 "2014-01-01T05:07:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1101 "2014-05-27T00:39:11Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> It was a beautiful day, pretty much summer-like. I guess we had our Spring for 15 minutes on Thursday. 🙂

Three days of 90+ at my place by TBay took the last of the snow away (a hair warmer than the Turks and Caicos, whose Premier was in Canada today). Still lots of ice on the lake, making for some odd beach scenes on [south shore public beaches](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bog_O-jCQAEUqAp.jpg:large)across the lake. I figure that the landmass around TBay floated off on the ice, and we’ve drifted down to the the Turks and Caicos. I’m going to have to take up sand skiing.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1102 "2014-05-27T00:48:49Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> Great news! Do you have a place lined up? That was our problem back when the Ottawa market was going from hot to massively stupid. Our houses sold in a few days but everytime we tried to make an offer the place had been sold while we were looking at it.

Nope - we don’t have jobs, either. We’re either very brave or very stupid. 🙂

We’re still planning to move to Lethbridge, so hopefully we’ll be able to find a place in a much cooler market without too much trouble (famous last words?).

The weather here has been damned near perfect recently - we’re not leaving Calgary because of the weather. It might be hard for Southerners in the US to believe, but I think Calgary has fantastic weather (in spite of all my bitching and moaning every winter).

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1103 "2014-05-27T03:31:27Z")

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A couple of computers with high speed connections and you’re good to go for living as long as you want in Spoons’ basement – the kids that he never had returning to the nest.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1104 "2014-05-27T03:54:03Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> A couple of computers with high speed connections and you’re good to go for living as long as you want in Spoons’ basement – the kids that he never had returning to the nest.

Hey, _now_ you’re talking!

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1105 "2014-05-27T09:47:16Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> A couple of computers with .  
> high speed connections and you’re good to go for living as long as you want in Spoons’ basement – the kids that he never had returning to the nest.

Huh? My basement? I never agreed…

Oh crap. I just realized, I’m a Doper. I have an obligation to other Dopers.

'Kay, so you can stretch out by the cat litterboxes.

Enjoy!

S.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1106 "2014-05-27T13:29:44Z")

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Mmm, I love the smell of cat litterboxes in the morning…

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1107 "2014-05-27T13:40:04Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Nope - we don’t have jobs, either. We’re either very brave or very stupid. 🙂

So, then it’s an adventure. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1108 "2014-05-28T01:31:25Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> So, then it’s an adventure. 🙂

Yeah, yeah, that’s it - an adventure! 😃

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1109 "2014-05-28T01:49:45Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Yeah, yeah, that’s it - an adventure! 😃

‘Adventure’ is defined as “someone having a hard time a long way away”, so yeah, it’s probably an adventure. 🙂

So, any jobs out there? I graduate in three weeks.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1110 "2014-05-28T02:04:59Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> ‘Adventure’ is defined as “someone having a hard time a long way away”, so yeah, it’s probably an adventure. 🙂
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> So, any jobs out there? I graduate in three weeks.

There are tons of jobs out here - come out and visit already! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1111 "2014-05-28T02:10:27Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> There are tons of jobs out here - come out and visit already! 🙂

Then how come you’re both unemployed? 😕

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1112 "2014-05-28T19:13:43Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Then how come you’re both unemployed? 😕

Because working is for chumps. 🙂

Also, because **Cat Whisperer** mostly does temp work, so jobs kind of come and go for her and it doesn’t seem to make sense for her to get tied up in a job in Calgary when we’re fixin’ to move to a different city. And as for me, because I got laid off in November from a company that has run out of work due to their estimating division is hopelessly out of touch with the changes that have taken place in this province’s commercial construction market since the 2007-08 collapse.

On the upside, I’ve had three interviews in the last week with one follow-up interview scheduled for next week and possibly as many as two more next week as well. So prospects at this exact moment are looking decent.

But mostly, working is for chumps.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1113 "2014-05-28T19:43:07Z")

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> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#):
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> …But mostly, working is for chumps.

Ain’t it the truth.

Glad things are looking up. We (in Ontario) always hear that things are booming in Alberta and even Tim Hortons can’t find workers. I don’t know how factual all these anecdotes are though.

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1114 "2014-05-29T05:26:54Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Ain’t it the truth.
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> Glad things are looking up. We (in Ontario) always hear that things are booming in Alberta and even Tim Hortons can’t find workers. I don’t know how factual all these anecdotes are though.

I’d say that if you can’t find work in Alberta, it’s because you aren’t looking. I didn’t really start sending my resume out until mid-March and I’ve been fairly picky about what I’ve applied for, but I also know I could be working tomorrow at something—be it running a paint brush or, as you said, working the counter at Timmy’s—if I really had to. There’s lots of work in the province, especially if you’re willing to move to Fort McMurray.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1115 "2014-05-29T12:49:33Z")

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> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#):
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> There’s lots of work in the province, especially if you’re willing to move to Fort McMurray.

Too bad there is nowhere to live in that area.

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1116 "2014-05-29T17:25:20Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Too bad there is nowhere to live in that area.

One of the reasons we’re not willing to move there. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1117 "2014-05-29T17:48:44Z")

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> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#):
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> One of the reasons we’re not willing to move there. 🙂

Plus, it’s Fort McMurray. 🙂

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**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1118 "2014-05-29T18:06:18Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> There are tons of jobs out here - come out and visit already! 🙂

There’d better be! I’ve already given notice at my current job/apartment in Ontario.

I should be heading out there about the end of July and if I can’t find work I might have to move in with family :eek:.

If anyone’s looking to hire someone with a chemical engineering degree and accounting experience…

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1119 "2014-05-29T18:48:33Z")

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> [@The\_Lurker\_Above](#):
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> If anyone’s looking to hire someone with a chemical engineering degree and accounting experience…

You might literally have to beat away employers with a stick.

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1120 "2014-05-29T22:03:42Z")

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> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#):
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> I’d say that if you can’t find work in Alberta, it’s because you aren’t looking. I didn’t really start sending my resume out until mid-March and I’ve been fairly picky about what I’ve applied for, but I also know I could be working tomorrow at something—be it running a paint brush or, as you said, working the counter at Timmy’s—if I really had to. There’s lots of work in the province, especially if you’re willing to move to Fort McMurray.

I can’t even begin to tell you the number of people I’ve met that commute from various places to work in Ft Mac. One dude was commuting from Comox to Ft Mac every other week working a camp job! There may be a lot of employment opportunities but you will likely have to travel a fair bit to get it. Many of my neighbors have an 90 min+ bus ride to work and back every day, and while they get paid for it, it’s still a 12-14 hr day.

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