# The Canadope Café, 2014 Edition: In 3-D! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612 "2014-01-01T05:07:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/141 "2014-01-16T04:08:59Z")
My last vacation video, I promise - [I looked out my motel room this morning, and there were all the sheep in Radium.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9VZn3opfQk) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/142 "2014-01-16T04:15:46Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > My last vacation video, I promise - [I looked out my motel room this morning, and there were all the sheep in Radium.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9VZn3opfQk) Wow. That’s pretty neat. I don’t even know anything about these dudes. Between them, and the magpies, you may as well be in a foreign country. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/143 "2014-01-16T04:22:54Z")
Did you want to see the wild turkeys that are in Radium now too? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/144 "2014-01-16T04:31:49Z")
Nope. Plenty-o wild turkeys here, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/145 "2014-01-16T14:00:38Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > It’s a well-written piece, but from my perspective the Charter of Values is attempting to solve a problem that doesn’t exist: well, not in the rest of Canada. > > I work in the public service in Ontario. There are plenty of people wearing religious headgear. Now, we don’t interact directly with the public, but from a relationship perspective at work, no one seems to have any issues whatsoever. > > My previous office-mate, a female Muslim, didn’t wear any conspicuous symbols. The gentleman moving in with me at the end of the month is a Sikh and wears a turban. I honestly cannot for the life of me imagine why this should be a problem. > > I realize Quebec thinks their culture is unique. They’ve passed language and sign laws to help ensure the French language doesn’t get supplanted with English, and I guess this latest move is to ensure that they maintain a visible homogeneity wherever they have control of the situation: the public service. > > I suppose the thought process is that if they continue on the current path then in 50 years hospitals and schools and the legislature will be filled with people wearing niqabs and turbans and yarmulkes. And I say, “so what?” From my perspective, the notion that restrictions such as those the PQ wish to impose are the ‘wave of the future’ for the rest of Canada appears laughably wrong. At least in major urban centres, very few people truly care if a Sikh wears a turban or not. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/146 "2014-01-16T15:18:56Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I need some time off, where I’m not attending to my father, in southern Ontario. > > My father has lost his mind. He is no longer my Dad; he’s a kid in 1930s Belleville, Ontario; who never married and had children. I visit every few months, but it gets harder and harder each time. He has no idea who I am, who his wife was, who my sister is. > > I hate Alzheimer’s/dementia. I need a holiday. Alzheimer’s is a disease that hits the family as hard as it hits the patient. Wishing strength and courage on you and your family. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/147 "2014-01-16T17:56:33Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > My last vacation video, I promise - [I looked out my motel room this morning, and there were all the sheep in Radium.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9VZn3opfQk) Looks like you had some freezing rain. Those are beautiful animals, I wonder if they’re good eatin’? 🙂 Also, I would have left a comment, but it seems Google owns YouTube now? I have a YT account from years ago that I never use, but Google seems to think I am signed in to YT under my Gmail account, and demands a bunch of extra information from me that I really don’t care for them to have. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/148 "2014-01-16T18:22:33Z")
> [@Dr\_Doom](#): > > Looks like you had some freezing rain. > > Those are beautiful animals, I wonder if they’re good eatin’? :)\ I bet the cougars and wolves think they are. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/149 "2014-01-16T21:18:47Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > It’s a well-written piece, but from my perspective the Charter of Values is attempting to solve a problem that doesn’t exist: well, not in the rest of Canada. The purpose of the Charter of Values is not to solve a problem. The purpose of it is to create problems. It’s an attempt to create a conflict with the rest of Canada, on which the PQ can play the martyr, and to create a conflict between bigots and minorities in Quebec, which the PQ can play to get out the bigot vote. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/150 "2014-01-16T23:31:50Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The purpose of the Charter of Values is not to solve a problem. The purpose of it is to create problems. It’s an attempt to create a conflict with the rest of Canada, on which the PQ can play the martyr, and to create a conflict between bigots and minorities in Quebec, which the PQ can play to get out the bigot vote. We went over the reasons why the PQ is doing this ridiculous stunt in last year’s Canadoper thread, and those reasons sound familiar. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/151 "2014-01-17T00:15:45Z")
With this big freaking Charter mess, I almost wish the PQ would go back to pushing language issues. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/152 "2014-01-17T13:59:08Z")
The hearings are a terrifying parade of open bigotry and xenophobia. The PQ must be absolutely loving it. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/153 "2014-01-17T18:20:49Z")
If Canada was a family reunion, Quebec would be the drunk uncle with a huge mustard stain on his wifebeater pissing next to the barbecue. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/154 "2014-01-17T18:51:16Z")
> [@Dr\_Doom](#): > > If Canada was a family reunion, Quebec would be the drunk uncle with a huge mustard stain on his wifebeater pissing next to the barbecue. … the one who keeps going on at embarassing length about how “something needs to be done” about all those ethnic types moving in and ruining the neighbourhood … not noticing that cousin British Columbia is married to one, and her husband is sitting _right there_. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/155 "2014-01-17T18:54:41Z")
And then Ontario steps in to ask everyone if he can borrow a few bucks till payday, 'cause things are really tight at the moment. He has this great renewable energy scheme that he’s working on though, and if you just give him four more years he’ll be wealthy. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/156 "2014-01-17T18:58:31Z")
While Alberta is puffing on a huge stogie, holding a scotch on the rocks next to the pool pretending not to ogle the teenaged girls behind his Ray Ban Aviators. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/157 "2014-01-21T01:20:04Z")
To re-stir this hornet’s nest again, [here’s an editorial from Calgary writer, Licia Corbella.](http://www.calgaryherald.com/touch/story.html?id=9406082) Neil Young really isn’t making a lot of friends here these days. I’m not sure why he’s focusing on the treaty issue in the oil sands area; it seems to me that the real fight here that’s worth fighting is trying to get a good portion of the oil sands money to be invested in non-fossil fuel energy technology, or increasing regulations to make sure that the oil sands aren’t just running as dirty as they please. The treaties are a non-issue (in my opinion, of course). ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/158 "2014-01-21T04:59:31Z")
I’m not really a tennis fan at all, but I do enjoy the odd women’s match whenever one happens to be on. So I saw this Eugenie Bouchard girl in a Pinty’s commercial the other night, and tonight she happens to become the 1st Canadian to make the semi-final of the Grand Slam Australian Open. The young lady is 19, poised, doesn’t do the tennis shrieking that can be so annoying, and was a very composed and respectful player during those emotionally charged moments of a tightly contested match when one would expect the bared teeth and fist pumping antics so common in sport today. Plus she’s gorgeous. A new Canadian worldwide superstar is born, folks! Eugenie Bouchard! ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/159 "2014-01-21T05:54:23Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > To re-stir this hornet’s nest again, [here’s an editorial from Calgary writer, Licia Corbella.](http://www.calgaryherald.com/touch/story.html?id=9406082) Neil Young really isn’t making a lot of friends here these days. I’m not sure why he’s focusing on the treaty issue in the oil sands area; it seems to me that the real fight here that’s worth fighting is trying to get a good portion of the oil sands money to be invested in non-fossil fuel energy technology, or increasing regulations to make sure that the oil sands aren’t just running as dirty as they please. The treaties are a non-issue (in my opinion, of course). I’m no expert in Aboriginal law, but I do know that much of the land in Canada falls under what are known as the [“Numbered Treaties.”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbered_Treaties) It appears from the link that there continues to be some question about whether the treaties are valid (as I said, I’m no expert in this area); but if they are invalid somehow, then they could become an issue. Regardless, it seems to me that Young is trying to bring two issues together: First Nations rights and environmentalism, using the oil sands as the catalyst. I cannot speak to the former; but as far as the latter goes, I do think that allowing your tour buses to idle for over an hour outside the venue where you are speaking and performing is going to undermine your environmentalist message. Idle No More, perhaps, Neil? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/160 "2014-01-21T14:08:55Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Idle No More, perhaps, Neil? 😉 Groan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612.md?page=9)