# The Canadope Café, 2014 Edition: In 3-D! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612 "2014-01-01T05:07:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 82
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1621 "2014-12-08T17:52:17Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I’m sure it’s nice, **Jimbo** , but the problem is, I have nobody to go to the movies with. > > Well, I guess I could go on my own. We’d be happy to join you for a nice evening of shit blowing up on the big screen (or something). 🙂 > [@Leaffan](#): > > Poking fun at [American beer](http://videos2view.net/stronger-beer.htm#.VHsQjEUjKEd.facebook). It may have been true decades ago, but it’s still fun. > [@Spoons](#): > > Good one, **Leaffan**. Thanks for the link! > > I will say that there are a lot of American microbrews that are quite tasty and strong. Of course, we have some too. I’m glad that we’ve got a lot more choice than we did thirty years ago. I’ve found that once you start talking microbrews, regardless of where they come from, all bets are off. I’ve hardly tried a small-batch beer that I didn’t like (although I wasn’t a fan of Big Rock’s cold-hopped beer from a few years back—too bitter for my taste). ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1622 "2014-12-08T21:27:18Z")
[Customers denied diced onions, throw snake at Saskatoon Tim Hortons employee](http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/saskatoon/Customers+denied+diced+onions+throw+snake+Saskatoon/10450426/story.html) That’s about 8 blocks from my house. I can’t figure out how to respond besides laughing my ass off. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1623 "2014-12-08T21:42:02Z")
Funny story **Gorsnak**! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1624 "2014-12-08T23:56:42Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > [Customers denied diced onions, throw snake at Saskatoon Tim Hortons employee](http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/saskatoon/Customers+denied+diced+onions+throw+snake+Saskatoon/10450426/story.html) > > That’s about 8 blocks from my house. I can’t figure out how to respond besides laughing my ass off. I guess that’s probably another one of those things that US Americans don’t know about Canada - our response to everything is to throw a snake. Edit: Upon reading the story, there is no part of it that makes any sense at all. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1625 "2014-12-09T00:37:53Z")
Dammit, I said _diced_ onions! I’m warning you, I work in a herpetarium! ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1626 "2014-12-09T00:45:11Z")
Peppered with pythons. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1627 "2014-12-09T00:50:32Z")
Say, the little guy is kinda [cute](https://twitter.com/SaskatoonPolice/status/542087660240510976). ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1628 "2014-12-09T13:09:39Z")
Okay, so he threw a snake. Where did the snake come from? He reached into his buddy’s pocket and pulled it out before snake-flingage began. Who the heck carries a snake around? And what, whispers to his buddy, “Psst! I’ve got the snake. Just reach in and fling it!” 😕:eek:😕 ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1629 "2014-12-09T14:35:21Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I guess that’s probably another one of those things that US Americans don’t know about Canada - our response to everything is to throw a snake. > > Edit: Upon reading the story, there is no part of it that makes any sense at all. Perhaps they wanted it as a special ingredient on their breakfast sandwich? ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1630 "2014-12-09T15:10:09Z")
I’ll bet most people didn’t realize that Snakes on A Plane was based on an incident involving and ill-tempered Air Canada flight attendant on an early morning flight from Edmonton to Toronto, a cold cup of coffee and a pregnant [Western Hognose snake](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Heterodon_nasicus.jpg)… Thanks **Gorsnak** , that made my day. Although the poor snake was probably traumatized… ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1631 "2014-12-09T23:22:38Z")
OK, Canada’s Greatest Lawyers and Legal Beagles; I have been having a discussion at work about open liquor in a car and getting charged for it. It seems to be common knowledge that you aren’t supposed to have opened liquor in the car within reach of the driver. I have looked through every relevant law I can think of including the Highway Traffic Act, The Liquor Control Act , and even into Importation Statutes. I cannot find anything indicating that having an opened bottle is per se illegal. It says you can’t drink in the car, and that alcohol should be driven directly from point of purchase to point of consumption, but nothing about how that should be done. I was also told leaving your hitch on your vehicle when not pulling a trailer is illegal as well, but can’t find a relevant statute for that either. Are both these cases the legal equivalent of an urban legend? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1632 "2014-12-10T00:08:58Z")
I think it’s a provincial issue, not federal. Here’s what Ontario has to say in the [Liquor Licence Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. L.19.](http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90l19_e.htm) > [@](#): > > Conveying liquor in vehicle, boat > > 1. (1) No person shall drive or have the care or control of a motor vehicle as defined in the Highway Traffic Act or a motorized snow vehicle, whether it is in motion or not, while there is contained in the vehicle any liquor, except under the authority of a licence or permit. R.S.O. 1990, c. L.19, s. 32 (1). > > Exception > > (2) Subsection (1) does not apply if the liquor in the vehicle, > > (a) is in a container that is unopened and the seal unbroken; or > > (b) is packed in baggage that is fastened closed or is not otherwise readily available to any person in the vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. L.19, s. 32 (2). ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1633 "2014-12-10T15:57:25Z")
It is a provincial issue, so you’ll have to dig through each province’s statutes and regulations in order to find the prohibition. **Leaffan** has found it in Ontario’s _Liquor License Act_; I found Alberta’s in our _[Gaming and Liquor Regulation](http://www.qp.alberta.ca/1266.cfm?page=1996_143.cfm&leg_type=Regs&isbncln=9780779778645&display=html)_ (AR 143/96), which is a regulation to Alberta’s _Gaming and Liquor Act_: > [@](#): > > **Transportation of liquor** > > **87.1** (1) Liquor may be transported under section 83 of the Act only in accordance with this section. > > (2) Except as otherwise provided for in the Act or in a liquor licence, no person may > > (a) transport liquor unless the liquor is in a container that is capped, corked or otherwise closed, whether or not the container has been previously opened; > > (b) transport liquor in a vehicle if the liquor is within easy access of an occupant of the vehicle. No idea about the truck hitch. Might look into it later, if I have time. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1634 "2014-12-10T18:56:51Z")
Yes, provincial laws. The feds only have jurisdiction over inter-provincial transportation, not transportation within the province, which is what most vehicular traffic is. ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1635 "2014-12-10T23:36:43Z")
Ignorance Fought! Thank you, stupid me for not thinking of it being a provincial responsibility. I’ll keep looking on the trailer hitch thing. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1636 "2014-12-16T04:18:01Z")
“Three quarters of all federal debt was created by the Mulroney and Harper federal governments.” According to my ex-classmate in the GTA. I totally could not believe this, and thought Trudeau was a HUGE contributor to debt, and when I asked for a cite she linked to a PDF that said: Trudeau 738.7% increase in debt. Mulroney 67.7% increase. Harper 12.6% increase. But, she said that “Trudeau was way up there, but the others have him beat for dollars.” To which I replied that Harper’s debt is entirely due to stimulus spending requested by the NDP and Liberals! Here’s the [link](https://www.taxpayer.com/media/CoverStory24-27WEB.pdf). What do you make of this? She hasn’t responded. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1637 "2014-12-16T04:36:19Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > \ > What do you make of this? > She hasn’t responded. I think she’s a conservative hater who doesn’t want to let the facts get in the way of her opinions (thanks to my husband for so succinctly summing it up). ETA: Also, context - PM Harper was PM during the worst financial crisis the world has seen since the Great Depression. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1638 "2014-12-16T05:00:16Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I think she’s a conservative hater who doesn’t want to let the facts get in the way of her opinions (thanks to my husband for so succinctly summing it up). > > ETA: Also, context - PM Harper was PM during the worst financial crisis the world has seen since the Great Depression. Ha. Well, this exchange was on Facebook and it’s gone now after my comment. I’m on the record for voting Liberal in the past; I liked Jean Chrétien in his first term anyway. But the Conservatives have governed well these last 8 years, despite what the commentators on the Globe and Mail would have you believe. People in the GTA are as iron-clad Liberal as people in Alberta are Conservative. Quite an interesting dichotomy. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1639 "2014-12-16T05:07:38Z")
Not sure how anyone could dispute that Mulroney contributed far more to the national debt than Trudeau. Harper’s deficit spending is of course both pretty much insignificant and entirely appropriate given the circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612/1640 "2014-12-16T14:24:35Z")
Well if you go by [CBC News - Interactive: Canada's deficits and surpluses, 1963-2014](http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/canada-deficit/) and add up the adjusted Surplus/Deficient numbers for leaders back to Pearson you get Person added 27.63 Billion over 5 years Trudeau added 179.6 and 201.6 over 15 years –\> 381.2 billion Clark added 34.6 billion over a single year The government then changes its accounting principles so numbers may not be directly comparable but what the hell… Mulroney added 484.9 billion in 9 years Chretien added 74.7 billion over 11 years Martin ran a surplus of 16.5 billion over 2 years Harper added 158.7 billion over 9 years Now, if you want to rank PM by surplus(+)/deficit(-) added per year you get 1. Mulroney -53.8/year 2. Trudeau -50.4/year (Second term) 3. Clark -34.6/year 4. Harper -17.6/year 5. Trudeau -16.3/year (First term) 6. Chretien -6.7/year 7. Pearson -5.5/year 8. Martin +8.3/year The question why the Harper government has undercut their ability to gather revenue and continue to address the underlying debt is a separate question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612.md?page=81) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2014-edition-in-3-d/677612.md?page=83)