# The Canadope Café 2016: The North Awakens

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883 "2016-01-01T05:04:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/381 "2016-05-02T23:32:18Z")

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And now that I think more about this, was it the OPP or the RCMP that handled the investigation? Mounties don’t normally do Criminal Code matters in Ontario.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/382 "2016-05-02T23:40:47Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> …Question: What is the T2? Has anyone ever seen it?..

I have, and you don’t _want_ to mess with it: [https://resizing.flixster.com/t8G5tbQ7TpziRk5gOqZ0ZUyr5QU=/800x1200/v1.bTsxMTE3NDMwMTtqOzE3MDQwOzIwNDg7ODAwOzEyMDA](https://resizing.flixster.com/t8G5tbQ7TpziRk5gOqZ0ZUyr5QU=/800x1200/v1.bTsxMTE3NDMwMTtqOzE3MDQwOzIwNDg7ODAwOzEyMDA)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/383 "2016-05-03T00:31:34Z")

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Good thing I got all my taxes done!!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/384 "2016-05-03T02:24:17Z")

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okay, I checked. it was an RCMP investigation, but the two Crowns who had the prosecution were with the Ontario Attorney Generals department:

[A Toronto judge, two veteran prosecutors, and a lion for the defence: Who’s who in the Mike Duffy trial](http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/a-toronto-judge-two-veteran-prosecutors-and-a-lion-for-the-defence-whos-who-in-the-mike-duffy-trial)

So if you’re alleging it was a politically motivated prosecution, the Liberal government of Ontario was in on it.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/385 "2016-05-03T04:00:24Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I’ve got a golf game on Monday…

And we played today. Beautiful weather, perfect for golf. Not the best game I’ve ever played, but it’s still early in the season, and it was great to be back with the regular weekly golf gang.

Looking forward to next week!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/386 "2016-05-03T04:15:58Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> So if you’re alleging it was a politically motivated prosecution, the Liberal government of Ontario was in on it.

Your gripe is with David Scott, who I quoted.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/387 "2016-05-03T11:01:38Z")

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Yes, you quoted, saying you liked his comments.

Do you still like his comment, now that a significant flaw in his reasoning has been pointed out?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/388 "2016-05-03T17:02:28Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I appreciate the issue of the licensing of naturopaths by the province. That said, I think the fact that he was sick for over two weeks without them seeking any medical care of any sort,

But that’s the thing; they DID seek medical care of a sort. Naturopathic medical care.

Like you, I know naturopathic medical care is about as effective as just wishing the disease away. However, the evidence suggests these parents did not believe that, and there is rather convincing evidence that their belief was supported by official acts taken by the Crown (licensing naturopaths as doctors.)

I appreciate the importance of emphasizing the objective in matters pertaining to “necessaries” of life, but there’s also the issues, in criminal law, of reasonable doubt and mens rea. I would hope this case will cause people to all for people who are not doctors to not be called “Doctor” by the damn province.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/389 "2016-05-03T18:18:06Z")

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Sure, but mens rea and reasonable doubt can be assessed on an objective standard, such as if a nurse says your kid may have meningitis, and he’s too stiff to sit in a car seat, you go to an ER. That seems to be what the jury decided.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/390 "2016-05-03T23:28:16Z")

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Looks like Fort McMurray is burning to the ground.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/391 "2016-05-03T23:38:58Z")

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Over 29,000 evacuated.

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/392 "2016-05-03T23:48:22Z")

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So far no call yet, but that can change REALLY fast.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/393 "2016-05-04T00:14:55Z")

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We’ve been smelling woodsmoke in Regina the past couple of days. Now I know where it’s coming from.

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**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/394 "2016-05-04T00:27:36Z")

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My aunt and uncle live up there, have for years. I haven’t heard any news yet but I hope they are OK.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/395 "2016-05-04T00:37:59Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Question: What is the T2? Has anyone ever seen it?

The Terminator was the first all plastic telemark boot, which was based on Scarpa’s ice climbing boot modified with a tele bellows and 75mm nordic norm toe. It was too stiff for some, so the lighter and more easily flexed T2 was created. For those who found the Terminator/T1 too flexible, the T Race was created, but production ceased last year due to a move away from 75 mm bindings. Aren’t you glad you asked? 😉

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**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/396 "2016-05-04T00:38:00Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Looks like Fort McMurray is burning to the ground.

And nowhere to evacuate these 30 000 people. The hospital. This is a horror unfolding.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/397 "2016-05-04T00:54:08Z")

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Parts of the town on fire and 63 south breached. This could be right out of a 1950s Godzilla movie.

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**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/398 "2016-05-04T01:00:36Z")

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Cbc.ca says whole town ordered evacuated as of 6:20 pm local time.

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**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/399 "2016-05-04T01:02:31Z")

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Also Ted Cruz dropped out the US presidential race.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/400 "2016-05-04T03:13:08Z")

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Oh noes!

All that work to put the [del]Manchurian[/del] Albertan Candidate in the Oval Office! Wasted!

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