# The Canadope Café 2016: The North Awakens **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883 "2016-01-01T05:04:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/441 "2016-05-15T02:47:55Z")
I don’t know. She was pissed off about it, saying something about having to deal with both the photo deposit and then having to come back later to double check that the original cheque was not also deposited. Since I can’t count past ten without taking off either a sock or my underwear, I didn’t really grasp what her concern was, other than she was very annoyed at the increase in paperwork for her. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/442 "2016-05-15T05:46:43Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > … I ticked the box that said I consented to access to the information 92 years from now. I wonder why it’s 92 years? Why not a nice, round number like 100? Or even 90? Why 92? Does anybody know? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/443 "2016-05-15T17:01:16Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > …Thanks for the reminder of mortality, little guy! :smack: Mr. Sensitivity, that one. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/444 "2016-05-15T18:10:12Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I wonder why it’s 92 years? Why not a nice, round number like 100? Or even 90? > > Why 92? Does anybody know? The number was suggested by the spirit of Mackenzie King’s dog, and no one’s ever bothered to change it. I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![apollonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2bfe46/32.png) [@apollonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apollonia)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/445 "2016-05-15T19:37:20Z")
The short answer is: no one knows for sure. According to [this](http://www12.statcan.ca/English/census01/Info/chief.cfm), though: > [@](#): > > The precise reason why 92 years was chosen is obscure. > Graham Fraser in his November 4, 1999 Globe and Mail article suggested that: “The figure 92 was arrived at by adding the average life expectancy of 70 to the age of majority.” While this calculation may have popular appeal, it is probably not the explanation for the 92-year rule. > > A more credible reason was that, when the Privacy Act was made law in 1983, there existed a 92-year difference between this date and the date when the 1891 Census occurred. Thus, the passing of the Privacy Act with the 92-year rule ensured that the 1891 Census records could be released in 1983. > > The 92-year rule also quite conveniently ensures that any census would be released to the public during the mid-point of the 5 year census cycle. In the States it’s 72 years, which is usually explained as being “average lifespan,” although apparently there’s not a lot of evidence for that either. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/446 "2016-05-15T21:08:57Z")
A wild ass guess: apply the thinking behind [the common law rule against perpetuities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_against_perpetuities) used in estate law to prevent the dead from unduly fettering future generations, namely either vest within life in being plus 21 years or suck eggs. The average Canadian’s lifespan in 1981 was 71. 71 + 21 = 92. Now that’s just a guess. Another possibility is based on the answer to life, the universe and everything, namely 42, being added to the McDonald’s Canada 1983 fifty cent Coke token. 42 + 50 = 92. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/447 "2016-05-15T23:14:11Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Mr. Sensitivity, that one. Eight year old boys are not noted for their tact. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/448 "2016-05-16T02:16:23Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > When I called in to get a secure access code so as to begin filling out the on-line census form, I learned from Stats Can that I am homeless. > > They really could use some censustivity training. I read stuff like this and it pisses me off. As the census forms are mandatory to fill out, why not just create a national ID system that is just as mandatory, would require you to keep your address current, and give the government all the information it needs to provide the services it wants to provide. The added bonus is that identity theft would plummet and it would make interactions with the government and entities who have to do due diligence before they do business with you far more efficient. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/449 "2016-05-19T03:54:35Z")
Does parliamentary privilege cover assault? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/450 "2016-05-19T04:16:52Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Does parliamentary privilege cover assault? It’s Canada. Two minutes for elbowing. Matching penalty, two for interference. It’s a wash. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/451 "2016-05-19T05:02:35Z")
Is that a reference [to this?](http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2016/may/19/canada-justin-trudeau-physical-altercation-video) What was that all about anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/452 "2016-05-19T05:26:33Z")
Doesn’t Justin know he’s supposed to say “Fuddle-duddle!” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/453 "2016-05-19T06:11:06Z")
“Fuddle-duddle”? Sounds like this was more along the lines of, “Just watch me.” ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/454 "2016-05-19T11:48:15Z")
Yeah, the golden boy ain’t so golden afterall: grabbing people, elbowing people. From the CBC: > [@](#): > > He is said to have suggested the New Democrats “get the f—” out of his way. Lovely. Any guess what the uproar would be if a Conservative did that? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/455 "2016-05-19T12:37:58Z")
The story is more fun if you simply read the hysterical MP comments. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/456 "2016-05-19T12:51:51Z")
Can anyone explain the context? What were all the members doing, milling about in the centre aisle like that? if a vote was coming up, they should have been in their seats. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/457 "2016-05-19T13:12:26Z")
The [Hill Times](http://www.hilltimes.com/2016/05/18/house-dissolves-into-chaos-after-pm-accused-of-manhandling-elbowing-mps/64497) has an article on it. It isn’t very clear as to why the PM would be possessed of “an anger fierce, in his face and his eyes,”. 😃 I also don’t see how the physical contact between the PM and the NDP member could be so "…very overwhelming, and so I [NDP MP] left the chamber to go and sit in the lobby. I missed the vote [on C-14] because of this.” I suppose she could be an ex-Italian football player. ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/458 "2016-05-19T13:26:00Z")
He was out of line and apologized. Ms. Brosseau seems to be playing this up. I’m a 5’6’’ 150 lbs guy and I’ve been backed into and shoved by bigger guys that Mr. Trudeau. It just isn’t that big a deal. If this and the nanny-gate scandal are the best that the haters can come up with then I have to conclude that Mr. Trudeau is doing a pretty good job. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/459 "2016-05-19T13:36:49Z")
I’m so enjoying the butt hurt over how popular he is! People want lots of selfies? He’s being a Kardashian! He’s shamelessly promoting himself ! As opposed to shunning the press, and holding mostly ‘no questions’ press conferences? Or being widely despised like Mr Harper was by the time he exited office? Like it’s somehow a bad thing that he’s well liked, respected, welcomed around the world and spoken highly of by other world leaders. When did it become a sin for constituents to really like the guy they elected? At the same time easily acknowledging he ain’t perfect and likely has a lot yet to learn. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/460 "2016-05-19T14:26:11Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Can anyone explain the context? What were all the members doing, milling about in the centre aisle like that? if a vote was coming up, they should have been in their seats. The speculation is that they were being childish and trying to delay the vote. Nobody covered themselves with glory in this thing, least of all Trudeau. The House has Speaker to deal with stupid stunts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883.md?page=24)