# The Canadope Café 2016: The North Awakens **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883 "2016-01-01T05:04:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/861 "2016-11-28T03:02:38Z")
Calvary gets the short kick! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/862 "2016-11-28T03:03:38Z")
Field goal range! OT coming up? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/863 "2016-11-28T03:11:32Z")
Last Grey Cup OT - 2005. Mrs P and I were there, at BC Place. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/864 "2016-11-28T03:19:01Z")
3 bobbles, but a TD! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/865 "2016-11-28T03:22:05Z")
And Mrs Piper called it: Ottawa by 6! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/866 "2016-11-28T03:34:12Z")
That has to be one of the most exciting Grey Cups ever. Not as good as '89, of course, ( 😉 ), but still a great game! ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/867 "2016-11-28T03:55:31Z")
Just like last week, I could have taken less excitement, but what a game. I watched nearly every Renegades game ever played. This feels real good. ---
**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/868 "2016-11-28T05:27:49Z")
Awesome game, eh? Some things from the crowd: - Justin Trudeau came on the video board, and the entire endzone section where I was started booing him - The hadn’t arranged the speakers so the temporary seats in the endzone could hear anything, so we couldn’t here the anthem being sung. Someone yelled out “I guess we’ll have to sing it ourselves” and we all started singing O Canada at the top of our lungs - There was almost a fight just before the last touchdown Calgary scored. I nearly missed the play! ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/869 "2016-11-28T05:56:04Z")
I hope you all switched over to the Denver-Kansas City game when it was over. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/870 "2016-11-28T17:17:07Z")
Busy day so far - three media requests before I even got to the office ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/871 "2016-11-28T17:24:38Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > I hope you all switched over to the Denver-Kansas City game when it was over. Why? I find four/down boring and rarely watch it. Football is over in the Piper household until June. ---
**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/872 "2016-11-28T18:08:55Z")
> [@Poysyn](#): > > Busy day so far - three media requests before I even got to the office Sorry if I missed something - do you work with the Redblacks? ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/873 "2016-11-28T18:46:50Z")
> [@D18](#): > > Sorry if I missed something - do you work with the Redblacks? Nope - sorry - Canadian Armed Forces - Public Affairs/Media relations type job ---
**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/874 "2016-11-28T18:59:17Z")
Well, no apologies needed, of course, I was just trying to follow along! Again my apologies if this is obvious - but I have had a busy day and haven’t checked the news. Was there some event with the armed forces that I should be aware of? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/875 "2016-11-28T19:02:26Z")
~1000 military personnel reported being sexual assaulted in 2016. > **[The Daily — Sexual misconduct in the Canadian Armed Forces, 2016](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/161128/dq161128a-eng.htm)** > > About 960 Regular Force members of the Canadian Armed Forces, or 1.7%, reported being victims of sexual assault during the previous 12 months either in the military workplace or in situations involving military members, Department of National Defence... ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/876 "2016-11-28T19:08:28Z")
The majority of cases (~850) fell into the “unwanted sexual touching” category. > [@](#): > > Sexual attack: Has anyone forced you or attempted to force you into any unwanted sexual activity, by threatening you, holding you down or hurting you in some way? > > Unwanted sexual touching: Has anyone touched you against your will in any sexual way? This includes unwanted touching or grabbing, kissing or fondling? > > Sexual activity where you were unable to consent: Has anyone subjected you to a sexual activity to which you were not able to consent? This includes being drugged, intoxicated, manipulated or forced in ways other than physically. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/877 "2016-11-29T00:25:32Z")
Even if it’s “just” unwanted sexual touching, it’s still sexual assault. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/878 "2016-11-29T01:26:12Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Even if it’s “just” unwanted sexual touching, it’s still sexual assault. If a cop gives you a ticket and you “just” tear it up and throw it at him, it’s still “assaulting a police officer”. So what word is in your vocabulary for hitting him over the head with a baseball bat, now that “assault” has been wasted on the harmlessly trivial? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/879 "2016-11-29T01:51:35Z")
I suggest you walk past the next man, grab his crotch and engage is a discussion around the relative merits of differentiating assault. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883/880 "2016-11-29T01:53:28Z")
“Assault” hasn’t been wasted trivially. The classic definition of assault in Canadian law has been: “The intentional application of force, however slight, to another person, without their consent.” Whether the police will proceed with very slight assaults is a matter of discretion: _de minimus non curat lex._ The offence of assault protects the personal dignity and autonomy of the individual, not just from major assaults. As for the examples you give, there is more than one level of assault. Your examples could be “assault with a weapon or causing bodily harm” (s. 267 Criminal Code) or “aggravated assault” (s. 268 Criminal Code). [Criminal Code assault provisions.](http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-62.html#docCont) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadope-cafe-2016-the-north-awakens/741883.md?page=45)