# The CanaDoper Café (2012 edition of The great, ongoing Canadian current events and politics thread.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014 "2012-01-01T03:31:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 101
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2002 "2012-10-23T22:50:31Z")
“Death by a thousand cold cuts” was much funnier. ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2003 "2012-10-24T03:17:11Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I’ll put in a plug for Kal-Tire here - I’ve bought two sets of tires and now a set of rims from them, and they are a very good business to deal with - their prices rival Walmart, their counter guys are friendly and knowledgeable, and they make every effort to go above and beyond in service. It sounds like it’s too late for this now, but for the future, if you buy your snow tires and your rims from them, they’ll put them on and take them off for you for no charge. > > I don’t work today, but yesterday’s drive to work was a nightmare (my exact words at one point were, “Oh My Fucking God!”). The last six blocks or so on smaller side streets were a skating rink - I could have laced up my skates and skated down them. I do have my snow tires on, but they’re not magic - you still can’t stop on a dime on ice. I only got tailgated by one vehicle as I was driving on the sheer ice - a schoolbus. :mad: Today I’m not driving at all - I’m going for a long walk in the snow. +1. [Nokian](http://www.kaltire.com/Retail/tires/Tire-Brands/nokian/), Best winter tires, ever. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2004 "2012-10-24T03:50:08Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Wildrose leader: “Let them eat rotten meat.” > > [Wildrose leader tweets tainted beef could feed homeless | Toronto Sun](http://www.torontosun.com/2012/10/22/wildrose-leader-tweets-tainted-beef-could-feed-homeless) I’m not sure about feeding possibly tainted beef to the homeless, but surely they could have done _something_ with it other than throw it in the landfill. Dog food? Something? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2005 "2012-10-24T03:58:10Z")
> [@swampspruce](#): > > +1. [Nokian](http://www.kaltire.com/Retail/tires/Tire-Brands/nokian/), Best winter tires, ever. Those Finns make good tires. Put my Hakk R’s on today. After sliding all over the place on the way to work, I decided I’d exchange the possibility of a bit of tread wear if it warms up in a couple weeks for not killing myself tomorrow morning. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2006 "2012-10-24T12:44:49Z")
> [@swampspruce](#): > > +1. [Nokian](http://www.kaltire.com/Retail/tires/Tire-Brands/nokian/), Best winter tires, ever. > [@](#): > > Nokian **Tyres** is the only **tyre** manufacturer in the world that focuses on customer needs in northern conditions. The company supplies innovative **tyres** for cars, trucks… I wonder if Nokian is the only **tyre** available in Canada. Seems to be the only **tyre** available at Kal Tire. It’s a wonder they didn’t call them **snowe tyres**. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2007 "2012-10-24T14:29:28Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I’m not sure about feeding possibly tainted beef to the homeless, but surely they could have done _something_ with it other than throw it in the landfill. Dog food? Something? I started a thread on the question [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15623313#post15623313) in General Questions. I remember from growing up on a Agriculture Canada Research Station that over a certain concentration of bacteria, the toxins produced by the bacteria rendered the meat unfit, regardless of cooking time and temperature. I’m curious to find out if that is indeed the case… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2008 "2012-10-24T15:39:50Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I’m not sure about feeding possibly tainted beef to the homeless, but surely they could have done _something_ with it other than throw it in the landfill. Dog food? Something? Dog owners today are very discriminating when it comes to feeding their pets . If I was taking back all that meat, I’d have been calling up the zoo feed suppliers of Canada and ther US. Lets make a deal. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2009 "2012-10-24T17:36:31Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > I’m not sure if it’s the same thing, but [the University of Alberta](http://lawschool.ualberta.ca/en/graduate/phd.aspx), [Queens University](http://law.queensu.ca/news/archives/september2008/phdLaunch.html), and [the University of Victoria](http://www.law.uvic.ca/grad/) all offer Ph.D. programs in law. In fairness to Spoons, all those programs appear to be of relatively recent creation, so I can understand the error. Nitpick: “Queen’s” is the university in Kingston. “Queens” is a part of New York City. Cha Gheill! ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2010 "2012-10-25T04:41:28Z")
> [@Dr\_Doom](#): > > I wonder if Nokian is the only **tyre** available in Canada. Seems to be the only **tyre** available at Kal Tire. > > It’s a wonder they didn’t call them **snowe tyres**. Hey, cut them a bit of slack, they are a Finnish company. English is a notoriously fickle whore of a language. Case in point, American- Tire Center British- Tyre Centre Canadian- Tire Centre I think it’s forgivable, and they do make great tyres and tires, whichever you prefer. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2011 "2012-10-25T08:03:48Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > In fairness to Spoons, all those programs appear to be of relatively recent creation, so I can understand the error. Thanks, Rick. Yes, when I went to law school–which wasn’t all that long ago–you went for your Masters of Laws (LL.M.) after your Bachelors of Laws (LL.B.), and if you wanted a third law degree, you went for your Doctor of Juridical Science (S.J.D.). Things have been changing in the Canadian law school context. For example, as I understand things, the J.D. degree has now replaced the LL.B. degree at the majority of law schools (including mine, and while I have the option to “trade in” my LL.B. for a J.D., I don’t think I will). Based on this, I wouldn’t be surprised if Canadian schools now offer a third law degree that is better-recognized: a Ph.D. That being said, and as regards my remarks about our local MP, he doesn’t seem to have done any studies leading to a Bachelor of Laws, without which he would be allowed to study for a Masters of Laws, without which he would be allowed to study for a Ph.D. in law at a Canadian university. [Wikipedia has this to say](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hillyer_%28politician%29) about his education: > [@](#): > > Hillyer earned a master’s degree in political economy at George Wythe University in Cedar City, Utah, and took PhD courses in constitutional law. > > . . . > > He was also accused of inflating his credentials in campaign literature by emphasizing his graduate education but not mentioning the institution where he studied—George Wythe University— **is a nonaccredited institution**. Emphasis added by me. A nonaccredited institution (unaccredited by the Canadian legal system, at any rate), in another country where constitutional law is different. Very likely any degree that Mr. Hillyer may have earned from this unaccredited school–which is not stated in the above link–is not recognized in Canada. I doubt very much that it would allow him to practice, article, or study for the bar in any Canadian province or territory. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2012 "2012-10-25T11:09:08Z")
It’s not accredited in the USA either: [http://www.ope.ed.gov/accreditation/Search.aspx](http://www.ope.ed.gov/accreditation/Search.aspx) From looking at its website, it seems like more of a place for indoctrination rather than education. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2013 "2012-10-25T11:22:34Z")
On the subject of accredited law schools, the deadline for admission application to the first class of the new law school at Lakekead in Thunder Bay closes 1 November 2012, so for anyone who hasn’t applied (Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?), you’ve still got a few days. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2014 "2012-10-25T13:34:57Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Things have been changing in the Canadian law school context. For example, as I understand things, the J.D. degree has now replaced the LL.B. degree at the majority of law schools (including mine, and while I have the option to “trade in” my LL.B. for a J.D., I don’t think I will). Based on this, I wouldn’t be surprised if Canadian schools now offer a third law degree that is better-recognized: a Ph.D. Heh, I was given that option as well - to trade in my LL.B for a J.D. Other than to annoy people by insisting on being called “Doctor Malthus”, I can’t think of any particular reason why I would want to. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2015 "2012-10-25T14:03:13Z")
I was enjoying the Huffington Post article about [Winnipeggers being nice to one another](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/winnipeg-town-learns-to-p_n_2006003.html?ir=Canada). ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2016 "2012-10-25T14:10:09Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > I was enjoying the Huffington Post article about [Winnipeggers being nice to one another](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/winnipeg-town-learns-to-p_n_2006003.html?ir=Canada). Almost makes up for the mosquitoes the size of dalmatians. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2017 "2012-10-25T14:24:22Z")
They’re only out when it’s warm enough to walk without a coat. What’s that, six weeks? ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2018 "2012-10-25T17:02:09Z")
I think I may be the only Doper here besides \*\*dhkendall \*\*who “hearts” Winnipeg unabashedly. I only lived there about 16 months in my life, but visit as often as I could when I lived in Thunder Bay. I lived there from May 1999 to September 2000. When I moved away from Winnipeg in to Vancouver I had an overwhelming culture shock, despite having lived in Vancouver previously and having a boyfriend and being part of his circle. It was hard to make friends of my own, and I felt I had made a bad trade. I ended up moving back to Thunder Bay before my son was born, (just before my marriage fell apart) and staying there for 8.5 years before moving back to Vancouver. I have a great partner and thus, living in Vancouver is possible (not cheap, but we live in the city and have fun, rather than living in the suburbs and having big commutes) Mostly we are here for weather and proximity to family, and better job opportunities for me (more people, more hospitals more nursing jobs) but if I had to l would live in Winnipeg again in a heartbeat. (My husband, who doesn’t drive… not so much. If we move east again he wants Montreal, and the metro.) But I agree the most friendly place I ever lived was Winnipeg. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2019 "2012-10-25T20:04:34Z")
I grew up two hundred km west of there. I love all of Manitoba, even Winnipeg. 😃 I’m rare, in that I’m a Manitoban who has never lived in Winnipeg. Many friends of my youth live there, and I still have a great time whenever I visit. One of the most consistently under-rated cities in North America. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2020 "2012-10-25T22:00:25Z")
It’s nice to hear good things about Winnipeg. Of course I’m not saying good things about it, buy it’s nice to hear them. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2021 "2012-10-26T22:31:34Z")
Just stopping by to say “hi” on this warm sunny day! I’ve been rather busy and never give myself much time to read the boards, but once in a while I feel I need to catch up! The opportunity to mock all you westerners for your snow is also kind of fun (though we are in for a lot of rain in the next few days, with possibly some of the drama of that storm about to wallop the east coast). I’ll have to buy winter tires as I didn’t want the ones the dealership offered when we negotiated the car. I’m enjoying my job, I really like my new car, I’m barely paying any attention to politics and the news and plans for house buying are mostly delayed until the new year or so due to a big business trip for my husband and a request from our landlord to not break the lease between November and March (though he’s flexible the rest of the year). My sister is moving to Ottawa for work, which brings her a bit closer to me and close to my best friend, making it easier for me to see them both! I’m very happy for her. And it’s Friday! YAY! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014.md?page=100) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014.md?page=102)