# The CanaDoper Café (2012 edition of The great, ongoing Canadian current events and politics thread.)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014 "2012-01-01T03:31:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2202 "2012-11-26T16:17:50Z")

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Put that in your pipe and smoke it, you left wing kooks!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2203 "2012-11-26T16:55:45Z")

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I thought Gordon Lightfoot did an excellent job of taking the energy right down in the Stadium. 🙂

I truly think that Justin Trudeau will indeed win the Liberal leadership some day, and he will probably become Prime Minister of Canada some day. I don’t want that to happen (because as noted, his bona fides are all in his name), but I think it will happen.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2204 "2012-11-26T16:58:40Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Two things I heard on the radio this morning.
> 
> 1. Bieber was booed? I never noticed. Did anyone?
> 2. Burton Cumming omitted some words from the national anthem? Missed that too.  
> Thoughts?

Bringing J.Bieber on for half time was marketing genius. No wait, what’s that other phrase?  
Idiotic and Asinine. Ya ,that’s it.

Great choice of song there too. “I wanna be your boyfriend”. Thousands of football fans most of them grown men are not going to throw their “my little pony” panties at the stage, mkay?

I guess professional football in Canada figures that it’s missing out on the tween girl demographic. Not enough 10 year old girls watching the game. I hear next year all the uniforms for the teams are going to be based on Pokemon characters. The Argonauts are going to be renamed to “The Toronto Pikachu’s”.

My son literally BEGGED us to turn the TV off. He predicts that half the boys in his school will have done the same.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2205 "2012-11-26T16:59:51Z")

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And in other news, Rob Ford has been booted from office as Mayor of Toronto.

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2206 "2012-11-26T17:13:27Z")

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Congrats I guess, they’ve been trying to get rid of him by any means necessary for a long time. That’ll learn those right wing loonies to use \*office stationary.  
\*yeah I know there’s a little more to it, but not much more.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2207 "2012-11-26T17:15:54Z")

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> [@Ibanez](#):
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> Congrats I guess, they’ve been trying to get rid of him by any means necessary for a long time. That’ll learn those right wing loonies to use \*office stationary.  
> \*yeah I know there’s a little more to it, but not much more.

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2208 "2012-11-26T17:19:28Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> And in other news, Rob Ford has been booted from office as Mayor of Toronto.

[CBC newslink](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/11/25/toronto-ford-conflict-case-decision-release.html).

Now we just have to speed up the cloning of Naheed Nenshi. 🙂

:: picks up red phone ::

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2209 "2012-11-26T17:19:43Z")

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Maybe now Ford can get down to what is most important to him - coaching his beloved football team.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2210 "2012-11-26T17:25:48Z")

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Doesn’t Clayton Ruby have a pretty decent win-loss record?

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2211 "2012-11-26T17:37:01Z")

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As for the **Grey Cup** halftime show, I missed **Gordon Lightfoot** , came back just in time to be bored to death by (I found their name out later) _Mariana’s Trench_, heard _Call Me Maybe_, and both **Bieber** songs for the first time ever.

I’ve seen _Call Me Maybe_ referenced online countless times, but had no idea who the artist was, or that she was Canadian, so I felt a tiny pang of entertainment industry pride at that.

I didn’t notice any booing going on, at all. What I did notice, was that it almost seemed as though crowd noise was manufactured into the telecast, as I really find it incredible that **Bieber** , popular as he is, or any of the acts, really, would garner such a cacophonous reaction from the game attendees.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2212 "2012-11-26T17:52:42Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Maybe now Ford can get down to what is most important to him - coaching his beloved football team.

Don’t forget bragging about how he doesn’t use much of his expense account. Ah…the simple joys of life.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2213 "2012-11-26T18:11:34Z")

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[Mark Carney just left to become the governor of the Bank of England.](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/mark-carney-named-bank-of-england-governor/article5661635/).

I feel vaguely disquieted about this.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2214 "2012-11-26T18:24:09Z")

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Vaguely disquieted?

I have an undefined ambivalence.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2215 "2012-11-26T18:26:17Z")

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Not a nebulous indifference? I’m holding out for one of those.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2216 "2012-11-26T18:30:10Z")

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Rob Ford has been removed as mayor of Toronto due to conflict of interest violations.

[Story here](http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2012/11/26/20385081.html).

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2217 "2012-11-26T19:07:32Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Toronto won the Grey Cup and [got rid of our mayor](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1293190--mayor-rob-ford-guilty-kicked-from-office-but-can-run-again)!

Im trying to parse that to see which one seems more important to you…

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2218 "2012-11-26T19:10:59Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> Not a nebulous indifference? I’m holding out for one of those.

Actually, I think we lost a very intelligent and capable guy here. My nebulousness is fading.

ETA: Yes, I’m still talking about Carney.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2219 "2012-11-26T19:14:55Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> [Mark Carney just left to become the governor of the Bank of England.](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/mark-carney-named-bank-of-england-governor/article5661635/).
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> I feel vaguely disquieted about this.

I’m generally mystified at this point, but I think I can get on board with vaguely disquieted if I do more research.

I thought the music for the Grey Cup was pretty much mis-cast from beginning to end. There are tons of excellent Canadian artists who would have been more appropriate for the show, but they chose who they went with for reasons that I either don’t understand or don’t agree with.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2220 "2012-11-26T19:17:49Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> [QUOTE=Ibanez]
> 
> Congrats I guess, they’ve been trying to get rid of him by any means necessary for a long time. That’ll learn those right wing loonies to use \*office stationary.  
> \*yeah I know there’s a little more to it, but not much more.

Agreed.  
[/QUOTE]

He spoke to and voted on a motion on which he had a direct pecuniary interest, which is prohibited under the _Municipal Conflict of Interest Act_.

> [@](#):
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> **5.** (1) Where a member, either on his or her own behalf or while acting for, by, with or through another, has any pecuniary interest, direct or indirect, in any matter and is present at a meeting of the council or local board at which the matter is the subject of consideration, the member,
> 
> (a) shall, prior to any consideration of the matter at the meeting, disclose the interest and the general nature thereof;
> 
> (b) shall not take part in the discussion of, or vote on any question in respect of the matter; and
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> (c) shall not attempt in any way whether before, during or after the meeting to influence the voting on any such question.

The sanction for that, set out in the Act, is removal from office.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/2221 "2012-11-26T19:19:32Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I thought the music for the Grey Cup was pretty much mis-cast from beginning to end.

I understood the choice of Lightfoot, to tie into the Grey Cup train, 100th Grey Cup, Canada’s history, etc. But, sadly, I’m afraid Gord is past it - his singing voice was feeble compared to his glory days.

The rest of it? meh.

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