# The CanaDoper Café (2012 edition of The great, ongoing Canadian current events and politics thread.)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014 "2012-01-01T03:31:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![the\_Lady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@the\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_Lady)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/301 "2012-01-18T19:29:44Z")

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My grandpa used tie the toboggan to the back of his car and tow my mom and her siblings up and down the streets of Vegreville.  
Mom says they also tobogganed down the embankments on to the river. I assume they waited til it was good and frozen. She says the only person who died was an unfortunate boy who had an unrelated brain aneurysm while skating. She chose to relate this story to my 5 year old the other day, who is now worried she will die while skating. Thanks mom.

Oh yeah, it’s still really freaking cold here.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/302 "2012-01-18T19:44:33Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> You think prairie teenagers don’t find ways to try to kill themselves? 😃

Yeah, but they do it horizontally. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/303 "2012-01-18T19:57:59Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> We start walking, and realize that we are headed down the snowy, twisty, steep road we took to get up to this little plateau and parking lot we are on. Someone stops us and tells us to use the toboggan.

That is AWSOME! What a terrific way to enjoy the snow!

I do something like that in Northern Ontario on skis, sans bus. Along the North Shore of Superior there are a few cell towers (usually one per town), and each cell tower has a road to the top, which makes for gentle, relaxed cross country skiing. Shuffle uphill for about a mile in length, and then [coast down](http://youtu.be/OHMvRwbxTYg)to where you started, with really nice views along the way: [http://youtu.be/OHMvRwbxTYg](http://youtu.be/OHMvRwbxTYg)

Unfortunately, we’ve had a drought this season, so these access roads have been [a bit rough on the skis](http://youtu.be/fptNwsMA0Q0): [http://youtu.be/fptNwsMA0Q0](http://youtu.be/fptNwsMA0Q0)

> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> You think prairie teenagers don’t find ways to try to kill themselves? 😃

There’s a lot to be said for traction kite flying. I took it up while living in a rather flat region, and still pull out the kite when the spring winds hit. Trying not to go Toto is quite an adrenaline charged workout. It’s a blast in the winter on skis across farmland (or where I live now, across lakes).

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/304 "2012-01-18T19:58:43Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> Yeah, but they do it horizontally. 🙂

Tell that to the handful of kids that leave St. Andrew’s Hill (kitty corner from McMahon Stadium, home of the Calgary Stampeders) in ambulances every winter. 😛 It’s a fairly significant and steep drop – probably in the 30 metre range – and there’s a chain link fence at the bottom to keep people from shooting out onto University Dr. Crashes into that fence are usually what does all the damage. Although one time I did see a massive inner tube with about 8 people on it hit a kid about half way down the hill and knock the kid flying like a pinwheel. Awesome!

ETA It’s currently -27 with a -36 windchill here. Wow, this sure sucks a lot.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/305 "2012-01-18T20:05:00Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> There’s a lot to be said for traction kite flying. I took it up while living in a rather flat region, and still pull out the kite when the spring winds hit. Trying not to go Toto is quite an adrenaline charged workout. It’s a blast in the winter on skis across farmland (or where I live now, across lakes).

I’ve only ever been through your part of the country in summer, but it sounds like I should make a winter visit someday.

> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#):
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> ETA It’s currently -27 with a -36 windchill here. Wow, this sure sucks a lot.

I agree. We haven’t had much of a winter to this point, and to suddenly go from what we had to this–it’s a bit much. Apparently, it will warm up as the week goes on, but that’s cold comfort now. 😉

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/306 "2012-01-18T22:31:12Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> You think prairie teenagers don’t find ways to try to kill themselves? 😃

Looking at [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ebpZhHSmSU), I think teenagers across Canada have found a few [other](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjqMAmOdPJE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL5DEAF3E716E1151C) ways to [do some damage](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60VSc3sB7yM).

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/307 "2012-01-19T00:11:44Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Looking at [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ebpZhHSmSU), I think teenagers across Canada have found a few [other](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjqMAmOdPJE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL5DEAF3E716E1151C) ways to [do some damage](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60VSc3sB7yM).

That’s growing in popularity around here as well. I’m partial to kite-skiing, but some of the folks are getting into it with skates – for example, one of my friends[trying it for the first time](http://youtu.be/oCIlKyfa1Ok): [http://youtu.be/oCIlKyfa1Ok](http://youtu.be/oCIlKyfa1Ok)

So far there is no ice on the big lake, so kite skating/skiing is on hold for the time being.

A few years ago there was an attempt at a world iceboat speed record, but unfortunately there are very few locals into the sport. Too bad, for it looks to be a blast, and heaven knows we have enough sailors in town who could transfer their sailing skills.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/308 "2012-01-19T00:37:50Z")

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Le Ministre, you would have enjoyed this evening at the cross-country ski chalet up the street. After work, Frank Pollari (a brilliant harp player) and equally talented blues guitarist Dave Jonasson popped in to play a set. Great skiing and great music.

Time to set up some skis for Friday – I’m heading up-lake where there may be some more snow for a bit of back-country skiing.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/309 "2012-01-19T01:21:15Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> We haven’t had much of a winter to this point, and to suddenly go from what we had to this–it’s a bit much. Apparently, it will warm up as the week goes on, but that’s cold comfort now. 😉

This is exactly correct. -35 without a couple weeks of -20 to acclimate is just not nice at all.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/310 "2012-01-19T01:37:03Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> Yeah, but they do it horizontally. 🙂

In so many ways. 😃

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Looking at [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ebpZhHSmSU), I think teenagers across Canada have found a few [other](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjqMAmOdPJE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL5DEAF3E716E1151C) ways to [do some damage](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60VSc3sB7yM).

Holy shit, lookit that skater go!

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**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/311 "2012-01-19T01:54:09Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> This is exactly correct. -35 without a couple weeks of -20 to acclimate is just not nice at all.

Although I had to laugh that -20 today felt positively balmy after the last couple of days.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/312 "2012-01-19T02:52:12Z")

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Someone here on the Dope said something a few years ago about how 15º seems so cold in summer, and so beautiful in winter - everything’s relative.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/313 "2012-01-19T02:53:22Z")

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Mrs Piper has been checking out the weather back home in Regina:

[QUOTE=The Weather Network, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 8:46 pm CST]

Bitterly cold Arctic air combined with westerly winds of 15 to 30 km/h will produce wind chill values in the -40 to -49 range throughout most of Southern Saskatchewan tonight through Thursday. At these extreme wind chill values frostbite on exposed skin may occur in less than 10 minutes. Temperatures will begin to moderate slightly on Friday as a low pressure system approaches from the west. By Saturday temperatures will have returned to the single digits over most of the province as the storm pushes snow and milder temperatures in from the southwest.  
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And here in Kauai:

[QUOTE=National Weather Service, 2012.01.19 0227 UTC]

Wind from the S (190 degrees) at 12 MPH (10 KT)  
Visibility: 10 mile(s)  
Sky conditions: partly cloudy  
Temperature: 77 F (25 C)  
Dew Point: 69 F (21 C)  
Relative Humidity: 78%  
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A bit warm, but it’s a wet warm. 😛

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/314 "2012-01-19T02:56:12Z")

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Next time we see you for a beer, I think we’re going to have to deliver noogies on behalf of all the Canadian Dopers. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/315 "2012-01-19T03:19:32Z")

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I figure that the sudden chill in Regina was the result of some friendly and warm people leaving the city. It will warm up once they return.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/316 "2012-01-19T03:29:46Z")

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More research after finding this site: [Subway Canada](https://www.facebook.com/SubwayCanada?sk=app_167210543339143)

There is a ‘fat free Italian’ and a ‘House Sandwich sauce’ also referred to as ‘Zesty Italian’ on another site.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/317 "2012-01-19T04:06:18Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Next time we see you for a beer, I think we’re going to have to deliver noogies on behalf of all the Canadian Dopers. 🙂

That’s where we’ll have our national Dopefest: Regina. It’s central, it’s a nice city, and we have a Doper there.

And … **Cat Whisperer** can deliver noogies while we all watch. 😃

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/318 "2012-01-19T04:18:45Z")

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Sure, just try and tell Saskatchewan they’re central Canada. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/319 "2012-01-19T04:19:19Z")

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Proposed: **Northern Piper** gets banned from the Dope … or at least this thread… until he returns from vacation because his posts about how nice it is in Hawai’i constitute being a jerk.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/320 "2012-01-19T04:21:01Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> That’s where we’ll have our national Dopefest: Regina. It’s central, it’s a nice city, and we have a Doper there.

Works for me. We could get **Spoons** and **Le Ministre** to sing “The Last Saskatchewan Pirate” as the festivities begin.

“By Regina’s mighty shores…”

> [@Spoons](#):
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> And … **Cat Whisperer** can deliver noogies while we all watch. 😃

:: nods ::

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