# The CanaDoper Café (2012 edition of The great, ongoing Canadian current events and politics thread.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014 "2012-01-01T03:31:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/381 "2012-01-29T05:22:44Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > In other news, are you people watching NLL lacrosse? I trust your opirions, Cat, but lacrosse is not on my radar. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/382 "2012-01-29T14:59:20Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > In other news, are you people watching NLL lacrosse? Did you see the big fight between Calgary’s face-off champion and all-round scrappy dude, Geoff Snider, and Toronto’s GOALIE? They fought on and on until they were basically dragged into the penalty boxes, then they continued taunting each other in the boxes, then the goalie was ejected from the game! It was exciting! You mean no one on the Toronto team intervened to protect their goalie like they do in hockey ? Disgraceful ! ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/383 "2012-01-29T17:34:07Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Don’t get too comfortable in your old age – [Quebec is studying active euthanasia](http://www.assnat.qc.ca/en/travaux-parlementaires/commissions/csmd-39-2/index.html). The Soylent solution to cutting health care costs. 😃 I just gotta say, I am so on board with euthanasia. I realize there’s a lot of legal structure to sort out and ensure that things are done correctly, but a dignified death is the least that so many people deserve. My best friend is an oncology nurse, dealing mostly with end-stage patients, and a cancer survivor herself. If her cancer ever returns (we all hope it never does!), she pretty much knows it will kill her, and she doesn’t want to die like her patients. She says she’d sell everything she had and go disappear in the Philippines or something, then die on her terms when it got to be too much. It tears her apart to watch the deaths of so many people through her work, and most express some sort of desire for it to be quick and painless, when, despite painkillers and sedatives, in her eyes there’s no way it can be. At that point, there is no dignity, and it’s one of the saddest moments in the world. It’s humane to put down a sick dog or cat, but we force humans to die “naturally”. It’s fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/384 "2012-01-29T18:53:39Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > You mean no one on the Toronto team intervened to protect their goalie like they do in hockey ? Disgraceful ! I expected the BFG (big fat goalie) to come lumbering in from the other end of the rink! I think maybe the Toronto players didn’t come to their goalie’s defense because he was the one who took the fight to Snider, and apparently Patty Campbell and Snider have history together. [Here’s a video of the fight.](http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/fight-early-about-toronto-rock-at-calgary-roughnecks-jan-28-on-national-lacrosse-league-channel-3) The video doesn’t show them getting dragged off to the boxes, and them sitting there yelling at each other. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/385 "2012-01-29T18:56:45Z")
And on a completely-unrelated subject, I totally agree with you, **mnemosyne**. Terminal illnesses should include a discussion of when the treatment and everything else stops, and a quick, painless death takes place. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/386 "2012-01-29T19:59:55Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > [PM Harper - ‘Major transformations’ coming to Canada’s pension system.](http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/26/major-changes-coming-to-canadas-pension-system-harper-says-in-davos-speech/) On the one hand, I applaud addressing changes to Canada’s pension system now, rather than after it is completely bankrupt. On the other hand, I’m 20 years away from retirement age - it looks like the changes will be in effect just in time to affect people of my age (i.e. people who were born just after the Boomers). Crap. Every rumor coming out, though, is that the changes will be to Old Age Security, which is not really a “pension” system, though I know they call it that; it’ not tied to any sort of contribution. It’s just welfare for old people, and almost all of them get it, inasmuch as the income clawback is set very high. There isn’t apparently any plan - nor, really, is there any reason - to mess around with CPP. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/387 "2012-01-29T21:46:31Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > I just gotta say, I am so on board with euthanasia. Same goes for me. One of my friends has ageed to put me in a canoe and run me off the line on the left of Horseshoe Falls. Since this may not be feasable, I sure hope active euthanasia is in place when my time comes. I don’t think the law reflects the opinion of most Canadians on this issue. Words similar to “I ask that medication be mercifully administered to me to alleviate suffering, even if it may shorten my life” are the norm in most people’s powers of attorney for personal care in my end of the province. In the last decade, only one client wanted to be kept alive at all costs, and only a handful wanted to defer the decision entirely to their attorney. The hundreds of others wanted the plug pulled when there was no reasonable hope of having some quality of life. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/388 "2012-01-29T23:15:59Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I trust your opirions, Cat, but lacrosse is not on my radar. Just curious as to when it was that you decided to go ahead and join Al Qaeda? 😃 > [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I expected the BFG (big fat goalie) to come lumbering in from the other end of the rink! I think maybe the Toronto players didn’t come to their goalie’s defense because he was the one who took the fight to Snider, and apparently Patty Campbell and Snider have history together. > > [Here’s a video of the fight.](http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/fight-early-about-toronto-rock-at-calgary-roughnecks-jan-28-on-national-lacrosse-league-channel-3) The video doesn’t show them getting dragged off to the boxes, and them sitting there yelling at each other. 😃 Yes, it wasn’t a case of the other Toronto players rushing to the defense of their goalie; it was a case of Patty Campbell – who has a reputation for being scrappy – rushing to the defense of his teammates, at least one of whom was about to get beaten up by the league’s 2011 penalty minute leader. Ironically, Snider and Campbell are teammates in the summer league. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/389 "2012-01-29T23:49:45Z")
Lacrosse: that other game for fighters who can’t skate. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/390 "2012-01-29T23:54:35Z")
[http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/shafia-jury-finds-all-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder](http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/shafia-jury-finds-all-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder) All three guilty and automatically sentenced to 25 years with no chance of parole. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/391 "2012-01-30T00:05:53Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Lacrosse: that other game for fighters who can’t skate. Are you keeping **Spoons** company in Al Qaeda? 😃 > [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > [http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/shafia-jury-finds-all-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder](http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/shafia-jury-finds-all-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder) > > All three guilty and automatically sentenced to 25 years with no chance of parole. Be a shame if someone should honourably murder them all in jail. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/392 "2012-01-30T00:40:06Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Are you keeping **Spoons** company in Al Qaeda? 😃 > > Be a shame if someone should honourably murder them all in jail. :mad: It’s hard to not actively wish physical harm on them, isn’t it. Oh well, at least they can sit and think about “honour” for the next 25 years. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/393 "2012-01-30T00:57:25Z")
> [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > [http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/shafia-jury-finds-all-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder](http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/shafia-jury-finds-all-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder) > > All three guilty and automatically sentenced to 25 years with no chance of parole. To clarify, they were sentenced to **life** in prison. Parole eligibility begins after 25 years. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/394 "2012-01-30T01:39:49Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Are you keeping **Spoons** company in Al Qaeda? 😃 I played it. ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/395 "2012-01-30T02:17:24Z")
I blame **Jimbo** and **Cat** for the fact that when there’s nothing else on, but RDS/TSN is showing lacrosse, I’ve been watching it the past two weeks. It’s not bad, but I don’t enjoy it as much as hockey or football. Good enough for background noise/passively watching while doing other stuff, though! I think I would have had to consider leaving the country for a more sane one if that jury had found those four assholes innocent. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/396 "2012-01-30T02:28:53Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > I played it. Alright then, I rescind my cruel aspersions on your character regarding your involvement with the terrorist group, Al Qaeda. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/397 "2012-01-30T03:11:43Z")
I keep meaning to go to a game. I like watching Lacrosse, it’s one of the few sports I do. Maybe my son might enjoy that. Did you see the new mascot Cat Whisperer? I hear they’ll have a contest to name it. A honey badger though? Why did they toss Derrick? I’m so glad they found those guys guilty. The whole thing is just horrible. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/398 "2012-01-30T03:54:16Z")
They are having a contest to name the new mascot who is indeed a honey badger. No one knows why they retired Derrick. I think they should name it Mel (the honey badger’s latin name is _Mellivora capensis_). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/399 "2012-01-30T03:58:16Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Are you keeping **Spoons** company in Al Qaeda? I’m still unsure how no interest in lacrosse equates to membership in Al Qaeda, but anyway… There is a thread going on about the Shafia trial and verdict: [Murder convictions in the Shafia “dis”-honour trial](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=640199). ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/400 "2012-01-30T07:13:29Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I’m still unsure how no interest in lacrosse equates to membership in Al Qaeda, but anyway… Well, it is Canada’s national (summer) sport, so you’re clearly verging on apostasy! (Cite: _[National Sports of Canada Act](http://lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/N-16.7/page-1.html#h-2)_, S.C. 1994, c. 16, s. 2.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014.md?page=21)