# The CanaDoper Café (2012 edition of The great, ongoing Canadian current events and politics thread.)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014 "2012-01-01T03:31:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/941 "2012-04-14T18:10:25Z")

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[This sign is being displayed on a busy thoroughfare in Calgary at the moment.](https://p.twimg.com/AqZXsVwCMAEAn9X.jpg) 😃

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**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/942 "2012-04-14T18:21:05Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> [This sign is being displayed on a busy thoroughfare in Calgary at the moment.](https://p.twimg.com/AqZXsVwCMAEAn9X.jpg) 😃

LOL!

When did that go up? I haven’t seen it when going past there.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/943 "2012-04-15T13:42:00Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> Maybe they like what they are doing… _more coins, gotta make more coins!_ 😃

They’re dwarfs! working away in Moira for Durin!

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/944 "2012-04-15T15:18:37Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> Come on you Canucks in the ROC, do you really hate the Vancouver Canucks that much ? We don’t ever expect to be Canada’s team, but the Ottawa Senators ? I don’t expect that Hillary Clinton will be wearing red anytime soon.

We (Ottawa) made it to game seven for the cup in Ottawa and lost, and didn’t destroy the city a couple of years ago. Not one window broken, not one car over turned, not one fire started. A lot of drunks where arrested mind you. Elgin st. was shut down and there was 1000’s of people there. How the local fans act are just as important as how the team performs. Don’t worry I’ll never root for Montreal for the same reason.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/945 "2012-04-15T16:27:37Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> My point being, that if you want someone to learn math, you need a math book, a pad of paper and a pencil. Cost minimal. You want someone to learn music and it costs a hell of a lot more.  
> Ensuring that the essentials are covered is the most important thing. Now I can be convinced that computers are not necessary in the classroom and could be replaced by musical instruments. But then I could make that case that if you have computers, then an add on would be a keyboard and some software-far cheaper than a bunch of pianos.

An a capella choir doesn’t cost very much, either.

A bunch of pianos? My high school had one apartment-sized Yamaha upright that got wheeled all over the school to wherever it was needed. I think it was intended as a way of combining phys ed and music.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/946 "2012-04-15T23:20:18Z")

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> [@Flutterby](#):
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> LOL!
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> When did that go up? I haven’t seen it when going past there.

I don’t know - I just saw the link through Twitter.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/947 "2012-04-16T00:25:29Z")

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> [@Ibanez](#):
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> We (Ottawa) made it to game seven for the cup in Ottawa and lost, and didn’t destroy the city a couple of years ago.

Nitpick: Ottawa lost that series in five games.

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/948 "2012-04-16T00:34:17Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Nitpick: Ottawa lost that series in five games.

Hey man, don’t be a buzzkill. 😃

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/949 "2012-04-16T00:44:27Z")

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> [@Ibanez](#):
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> We (Ottawa) made it to game seven for the cup in Ottawa and lost, and didn’t destroy the city a couple of years ago.

Don’t worry about it. There’s no shame in not being able to win at either playing hockey or destroying cities. I’m sure Ottawa will eventually find something that it is good at.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/950 "2012-04-16T00:49:05Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Don’t worry about it. There’s no shame in not being able to win at either playing hockey or destroying cities. I’m sure Ottawa will eventually find something that it is good at.

Hey now, they don’t need to destroy a city, that’s childs play for a city dedicated to breaking shit across the country!

I actually loved my years in Ottawa but you can’t tell me that wasn’t crying to be said.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/951 "2012-04-16T05:10:48Z")

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There was no rioting in Ottawa because as soon as the game ended everyone went home and went to bed. It was a Wednesday night after all - gotta get up for work in the morning, and it was a school night. Obviously. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/952 "2012-04-16T09:12:40Z")

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I recall reading (in the Globe and Mail, maybe?) that if the Canucks get to the finals, that the city of Vancouver will set up smaller, family-friendly venues, where alcohol will be discouraged, for people to watch the game.

Um … Vancouver? Maybe you should set up **no** venues. No alcohol in public (it will be “discouraged”? Really? Can’t you just ban it?). Tell people to keep their kids at home, where they can watch the game on TV, and stay safe. Fill the downtown with police. Make sure that Vancouverites know that anything like last year’s riot will be dealt with swiftly.

Honestly, after last year’s debacle, why would the City of Vancouver think that any mass gathering to watch a hockey playoff would work?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/953 "2012-04-16T11:47:15Z")

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I suggested last year that they should take a few bundles of confiscated marijuana and vapourise them, then release the results into the crowd if it start to get ugly. 10 minutes later, come through with a paddy wagon full of corn chips and ice cream. The munchies will ensure they all come willingly.

I call this technique ‘tear grass’.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/954 "2012-04-16T12:17:32Z")

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I was in Edmonton one of the times its team won the Cup. The main drag was closed to vehicles and packed with people walking in the direction of traffic – in one diretion on one side of the road, and in the other direction on the other side of the road. No J-walking. No intermingling. They were remarkably quiet. Too quiet. Now I’m not one to believe in zombies, but if I were . . . .

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/955 "2012-04-17T05:07:48Z")

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Edmonton is full of zombies, you say? Well, that explains a lot. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/956 "2012-04-17T06:10:56Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> I was in Edmonton one of the times its team won the Cup. The main drag was closed to vehicles and packed with people walking in the direction of traffic – in one diretion on one side of the road, and in the other direction on the other side of the road. No J-walking. No intermingling. They were remarkably quiet. Too quiet. Now I’m not one to believe in zombies, but if I were . . . .

Ah, Whyte Avenue. As one who was used to walking on Yonge Street in Toronto on Friday and Saturday nights, I also found, at first, that Edmontonians were a little too reserved–perhaps zombielike. But after living in Edmonton for a few years, I can assure you that they are as lively as anyone, especially if the Oilers are involved.

I lived not far from Whyte Avenue when I was there. I learned to stay off that road when the Oilers were playing.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/957 "2012-04-17T12:08:24Z")

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And a Happy Thirtieth Birthday to the [Constitution and the Charter of Rights!!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/958 "2012-04-17T18:06:55Z")

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I concur in the granting of birthday wishes as proposed by my learned colleague, but with one minor dissenting point: the Constitution is 145 years old. It’s the Constitution Act, 1982, which includes the Charter, which is 30 years old today. Hooray!

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/959 "2012-04-17T18:30:20Z")

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Begging your pardon, quite right, and I’m honoured simply to have been called your ‘learned colleague’. Gonna frame that one, I am!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/960 "2012-04-17T19:05:14Z")

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And, may I draw everyone’s attention to: [Ask the Canuck law-talkin’ guys about the Constitution of Canada!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=648688)

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