# The CanaDoper Café (2012 edition of The great, ongoing Canadian current events and politics thread.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014 "2012-01-01T03:31:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1242 "2012-05-31T18:58:49Z")
Yes, an excellent idea!! **Leaffan** , I don’t know if you’ll be in Toronto itself this weekend, but if you, drop a PM - maybe I can finally buy you that beer I’ve owed you for a couple of years (or fancy coffee, or gigantic fruit smoothie, or, or…) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1243 "2012-05-31T21:33:28Z")
A recent report in the Globe and Mail: [Sir? Have you paid for that Funky Chicken?](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/music/music-played-at-public-events-to-be-subject-to-new-copyright-fees/article2448631/) From the item: > [@](#): > > The Copyright Board of Canada has, for the first time, decided to charge fees to anyone who uses recorded music as part of a public event. That means anyone who plans on using tunes to get the party started will need to dig a little deeper before hitting play on the iPod. > > The new rules include any event in which music is played – weddings, ice shows, street parties, circuses, parades and karaoke bars are all named in the official notice from the country’s copyright board. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1244 "2012-05-31T21:43:58Z")
I don’t know. I think they should probably deal with the “Stealing music from the internet is ok, because I won’t get arrested for it” crowd first. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1245 "2012-05-31T22:36:24Z")
So we’re going to get charged cover to go karaoke now? Lovely. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1246 "2012-06-01T03:06:37Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Good to hear that you had a fun time, **Leaffan**! > > Actually, that’s something I’ve been wondering about. **RickJay** , I’ll be in Toronto in July–dates and my schedule while in town are yet to be firmed up, but I was wondering. Will you be performing in July? Maybe I could make it to see your routine also. I’ll be performing somewhere, the question is where and when 🙂 I’ll post dates in this thread. Next week I have shows in Brampton. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1247 "2012-06-01T03:09:20Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Thoughts? It’s difficult to believe this isn’t a joke. Well, actually, it’s a total fucking joke. But not in a good way. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1248 "2012-06-01T04:37:27Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Thoughts? If this is new, what are all those [SOCAN](http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/pub/index.jsp) fees I’ve been charging our clients for? :dubious: \ Oh, this is **on top** of the fees we’re already paying. And going from memory the cut-offs for the different price levels are different than for SOCAN. Joy, the admin work we’ll have to do on music fees is doubling. The prices listed don’t seem that bad, in fact at our facility we’ll probably have to spend more on tracking/paperwork than the fees:smack:. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1249 "2012-06-01T15:39:08Z")
And it relies on self-reportimg. Like that’s gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1250 "2012-06-01T16:21:40Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Yes, an excellent idea!! When my schedule firms up, I’ll make sure that the Tronna Dopers know what my availability will be. If we can manage something, we should try. And I’ll look forward to hearing those dates, **RickJay**. Who knows–we may be able to build a Dopefest around them. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1251 "2012-06-01T18:07:54Z")
Anybody affected by the Union Station flooding happening right now? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1252 "2012-06-01T18:40:37Z")
> [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](#): > > Muffin, how’s the clean up going? Can people in town flush yet? I know that most of PA was spared but I have a friend who lives on Machar and her basement was FULL of water. I know so many who took the hit, I am grateful my basement (at the bottom of a hill, no less) was spared. Council declared an emergency, and the province is releasing funds. The Salvation Army and the Red Cross are seeking donations. The Salvation Army is feeding people in the East End and Northwoods. The Neebing Arena out my way is on well and septic rather than city water and sewer, so it is being used as an evacuation centre. In the East End, the water treatment plant failed. Pumps have been brought in so it is running again, but the backlog will take a few days to be processed, so in the mean time, the city’s sewage is directly discharging into the lake, and folks are asked to try not to flush or use water. A lot of homes were flooded in the East End, and are still being flooded for there is nowhere for the storm water and sewage to go once it is pumped out – it just comes back in again. About a hundred or so homes in that area still have no power. The south end of Port Arthur down by the lake also took a beating. One of the clean-up crews told me that the foundation of a home near my office collapsed, but the home is still standing. My office was severely flooded, so I am working out of my home, and meeting with clients in the law office upstairs, who in turn are scrambling to find enough meeting rooms for some multi-party negotiations next week because their recently renovated boardrooms were on my level. The real estate company on my level is running out of the real estate board headquarters. It took a couple of days of pumping to drain the building, following which big fans have been brought in while crews toss out the carpets, furniture, and walls. There was quite a bit of flooding in the north Fort William and Northwoods area. We came very close to losing the Edward Street bridge, for the water was up to the bridge spans. All in all, the efforts over the years at building and dredging the Neebing Floodway paid off this week, for without it, the destruction would have been a great deal worse. There are a lot of washed out roads between Thunder Bay and Kakabeka, as well as the Trans Canada 11/17 on the far side of Kakabeka. 102 is still open, so Canada has not been bisected. It crosses the Kam a few metres downstream of where the Dog enters the Kam, so there will have to be great care taken with the pending dam release to avoid being too cautious and losing the dam and the highway, or not being cautious enough and losing the highway and some homes. Fortunately, it has not rained for two days, so it may all work out well. To give you an idea of the volume of water, here’s a very short vid I shot of [Kakabeka Falls](http://youtu.be/lr6f9rC3F9k) on Monday: [http://youtu.be/lr6f9rC3F9k](http://youtu.be/lr6f9rC3F9k) . ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1253 "2012-06-01T18:47:42Z")
> [@Dr\_Doom](#): > > Anybody affected by the Union Station flooding happening right now? Only in the sense that we won’t be [using the subway](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/06/01/toronto-ttc-shutdown.html) this afternoon. (The platform level for the trains is one flight of stairs down from this video.) We’re getting off easy here in Toronto. The sump pumps here in our house are going off every 15 minutes, like Westminster chimes… Hoping things settle in Thunder Bay soon. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1254 "2012-06-01T20:44:00Z")
> [@The\_Lurker\_Above](#): > > If this is new, what are all those [SOCAN](http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/pub/index.jsp) fees I’ve been charging our clients for? :dubious: > > \ > > Oh, this is **on top** of the fees we’re already paying. And going from memory the cut-offs for the different price levels are different than for SOCAN. Joy, the admin work we’ll have to do on music fees is doubling. > > The prices listed don’t seem that bad, in fact at our facility we’ll probably have to spend more on tracking/paperwork than the fees:smack:. Did I read something about how they are going to differentiate prices based on if people are dancing or not? I think I’m going to have to agree with, “Really bad, not funny joke.” ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1255 "2012-06-01T21:56:00Z")
[A few amusing images](http://www.torontostandard.com/the-sprawl/five-internet-funnies-from-flooded-union-station) from the Union Station flood, for your enjoyment. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1256 "2012-06-01T22:10:41Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > [A few amusing images](http://www.torontostandard.com/the-sprawl/five-internet-funnies-from-flooded-union-station) from the Union Station flood, for your enjoyment. Note to Self: When visiting Toronto this summer, bring hip waders and shark repellent. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1257 "2012-06-01T23:01:59Z")
I think it’s some sort of War of 1812 celebration - anything south of what we now call ‘Front Street’ was once the Toronto harbour until 1840, when they constructed ‘The Esplanade’. [Wiki source.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Harbour) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1258 "2012-06-04T16:09:27Z")
New tourism slogans for Canada - “Canada - Come Visit! We’re Not Likely To Kill And Eat You!” ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1259 "2012-06-04T23:08:56Z")
Greyhound Cannibal to be slowly released [Link](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57439922/greyhound-cannibal-interviewer-vince-li-thought-he-was-attacking-alien-in-beheading-of-tim-mclean/) Hey, we not only have cannibals, we think it is fine to let them go and do it again. He claims he was hunting aliens…If I find an alien, and then assuming that I need to chop its head off, I’m not likely to want to eat it. One little pill, voluntary taken, stands between Canadians and this fellow’s desire to kill and eat ‘aliens’. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1260 "2012-06-05T02:56:06Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > New tourism slogans for Canada - “Canada - Come Visit! We’re Not Likely To Kill And Eat You!” We just kill you and mail bits of you to political parties. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1261 "2012-06-05T08:14:11Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > We just kill you and mail bits of you to political parties. Well, the leftovers. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014.md?page=64)