# The CanaDoper Café (2012 edition of The great, ongoing Canadian current events and politics thread.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014 "2012-01-01T03:31:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1522 "2012-08-18T03:13:46Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > Smokies are basically fat hot dogs with a smoky flavour. Does anyone else in Canada call a hot dog a smokie? Where does this come from? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1523 "2012-08-18T04:08:24Z")
Smokie: [http://www.smokielover.ca/sausage-hq/smokie-personalities-which-one-are-you/](http://www.smokielover.ca/sausage-hq/smokie-personalities-which-one-are-you/) Usually a coarser grind than hot-dogs, and usually a bit more spicy in one direction or another. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1524 "2012-08-18T05:01:48Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Does anyone else in Canada call a hot dog a smokie? Where does this come from? Smokies are always one of the options at hot dog carts in Regina. ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1525 "2012-08-18T05:12:33Z")
> [@swampspruce](#): > > Hmm, I know Ontario is having some financial issues right now, but based on the “crack houses” I saw travelling through Niagara on the Lake last weekend on the winery trail, I think Alberta has a ways to catch up with the Jones’. > > On a completely unrelated note, why isn’t lacrosse or rugby an Olympic Event? Really, if something as pointless as equestrian events can get in, a real sport should. I have nothing against the horsey set, but come on, the horse is the athelete and you don’t see the medals going to them… Where was that? Thorold? Had buddies live out in those parts when at school at Brock. They’re pretty shitty. Lacrosse probably doesn’t have the international base, much like what i think has plagued baseball. However, apparently Roger Goodell has been in talks to have American, NFL style FOOTBALL in the Olympic games (a logistical mindfuck for at least three reasons I can think of!), so anything is possible. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1526 "2012-08-18T05:22:48Z")
Gotta love Thorold. It gives sailors a chance to get off the boat, get drunk and/or laid, hop in a cab, and get back on board before the boat clears the locks. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1527 "2012-08-18T05:33:01Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Problem is, rugby sevens isn’t rugby, and no one plays lacrosse. Lacrosse is the fastest growing sport in North America, and is played by quite a few college students in some very populous states in the US. It hasn’t reached hockey or football levels (yet), but it is coming along. 🙂 Jim also says that lacrosse was a former Olympic sport. > [@Leaffan](#): > > Does anyone else in Canada call a hot dog a smokie? Where does this come from? Smokies are delicious. Here’s a video for all y’all - [Tom Brokaw explains Canada to Americans.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrA4V6YF6SA) I don’t suppose we all need to see this since we know most of it already, but I thought you might enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1528 "2012-08-18T19:25:58Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Smokies are always one of the options at hot dog carts in Regina. Also on the streets of Toronto. And it just wasn’t a ball game at Skydome if I didn’t get a smokie. Mmm… ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1529 "2012-08-20T15:41:31Z")
[quote=“antonio107, post:1525, topic:608014”] Where was that? Thorold? Had buddies live out in those parts when at school at Brock. They’re pretty shitty./QUOTE] I’ve been through there too, years ago, and some parts of St.Kits are still a little sketchy, but I was looking more at the ones with the 4 car garages and stone gates along the Parkway and around the concession roads… 🙂 Smokies also have the added advantage of all that delicious cheese inside. Mmmm, jalapeno and cheddar smokies…Damn, I’m hungry now. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1530 "2012-08-20T17:46:13Z")
Greetings from sunny Manitoba. Smokie isn’t until Wednesday though. Two things: 1. Multicoloured sign on small on gas station/ice cream/bait and tackle shop “Smile Your on Camera.” Hey, I know that happens everywhere. 2. I bought a chicken burger and fries from a take out window next to said store. The young girl (15?) had to use a calculator to figure out how much change to give me from a $20, when my meal was $9.50. And still got it wrong by three dollars! Yeah, I know that happens everywhere, especially these days. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1531 "2012-08-20T19:29:52Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > \ > > 1. Multicoloured sign on small on gas station/ice cream/bait and tackle shop “Smile Your on Camera.” Hey, I know that happens everywhere. > > 2. I bought a chicken burger and fries from a take out window next to said store. The young girl (15?) had to use a calculator to figure out how much change to give me from a $20, when my meal was $9.50. And still got it wrong by three dollars! Yeah, I know that happens everywhere, especially these days. Yup, that stuff does happen everywhere. I think we ended up with a couple of extra dollars one time because we gave up trying to get proper change from a cashier (she looked like her head would explode if we tried one more time). ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1532 "2012-08-20T19:33:04Z")
It’s so much easier just to haul out the old debit card… ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1533 "2012-08-20T20:55:10Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > It’s so much easier just to haul out the old debit card… Sure. But they only took cash! ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1534 "2012-08-30T18:04:59Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Also on the streets of Toronto. I can’t claim to have visited all of the street-meat carts in Toronto, but I haven’t seen one yet that advertised having “smokies” (even though they have sausages that might fit that description). We often had smokies up at the cabin when I was a kid in Saskatchewan (although I preferred regular hot dogs, personally). I don’t think I’ve heard the term “smokie” since I moved to Ontario, though. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1535 "2012-09-01T03:27:15Z")
[Toronto burger joint in trouble for racist burger names -](http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/toronto-burger-joint-feels-heat-over-racist-menu-183507216.html)the “Half-Breed,” and the “Dirty Drunken Half-Breed.” Oy vey. You’d think that someone at some point in the process would have said, “Hey, you know, those might not be very nice names to use for our new burgers!” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1536 "2012-09-01T03:53:21Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > [Toronto burger joint in trouble for racist burger names -](http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/toronto-burger-joint-feels-heat-over-racist-menu-183507216.html)the “Half-Breed,” and the “Dirty Drunken Half-Breed.” Oy vey. You’d think that someone at some point in the process would have said, “Hey, you know, those might not be very nice names to use for our new burgers!” Its been decades since I’ve heard the term “half-breed”. and that was in the old westerns on tv and the movies. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1537 "2012-09-01T16:41:30Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Its been decades since I’ve heard the term “half-breed”. and that was in the old westerns on tv and the movies. I’m not sure what your point is - that it’s okay to use it now because it’s fallen out of fashion as an ethnic slur? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1538 "2012-09-01T17:08:21Z")
I hear it occasionally, and always in a bad context. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1539 "2012-09-02T02:54:52Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I’m not sure what your point is - that it’s okay to use it now because it’s fallen out of fashion as an ethnic slur? Not at all. I just find the term archaic and if used at all, way more likely to be used west of Sudbury and East of the Rockies. Maybe as a result of the English version of the “Halfbreed Adhesion to Treaty 3”. During my four years in northern Manitoba and northern Ontario in the heavy construction industry I meant plenty of Metis and redneck whites and honestly never heard the “halfbreed” term myself that I can recall. “Metis” was heard often enough. Here in B.C. a person of mixed ancestry will adopt or portray either identity for any given moment or one or the other exclusively. There really is no term that applies to them in social discourse. Metis doesn’t seem to be applicable either. That is my experience anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1540 "2012-09-02T05:23:49Z")
Thanks for the clarification, but I’m still not sure what your point has to do with a restaurant in Toronto getting heat for using racist terms to name their sandwiches. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![packergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/59ef9b/32.png) [@packergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/packergirl)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014/1541 "2012-09-02T05:38:35Z")
Who gives a poop. Cheeseburgers will make you fat and kill you. I’m part Cherokee and I’m not offended. The unemployment rate in this country offends me but not Cheeseburgers. If your offended, don’t go there. Save your hard earned money, and your fat ass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2012-edition-of-the-great-ongoing-canadian-current-events-and-politics-thread/608014.md?page=78)