# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 110
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2181 "2013-09-24T19:04:26Z")
> [@antonio107](#): > > This one is funnier. Went viral last year at school! > > [2013 ONCJ 160 (CanLII) | R. v. Duncan | CanLII](http://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2013/2013oncj160/2013oncj160.html) Both items just reinforce that I don’t have the patience to become a judge, in case I hadn’t sorted that out a long time ago… To me, the strangest question about these Freemen is - do they actually believe the bullshit they’re spouting, or is it all a cynical attempt to slow down the pace of justice? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2182 "2013-09-24T20:09:01Z")
Because I like sharing strange stuff with you guys - [The Mountie Lisa.](http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/41500/Mona-Lisa-as-a-Canadian-Mountie--41940.jpg) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2183 "2013-09-24T20:55:45Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Both items just reinforce that I don’t have the patience to become a judge, in case I hadn’t sorted that out a long time ago… > > To me, the strangest question about these Freemen is - do they actually believe the bullshit they’re spouting, or is it all a cynical attempt to slow down the pace of justice? As best I can tell, it’s some kind of cult of personality, where a few leaders convince gullible dupes that they’ve used magic to circumvent the law. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2184 "2013-09-25T00:09:56Z")
The one I have as an occasional client truly believes this twaddle. Some folks believe in God; some folks believe in Freemen on the Land. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2185 "2013-09-25T01:07:06Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Because I like sharing strange stuff with you guys - [The Mountie Lisa.](http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/41500/Mona-Lisa-as-a-Canadian-Mountie--41940.jpg) 😃 And as I just saw on the evening news, [Mountie Barbie!](http://www.themountieshop.ca/product/7401.html) 🙂 In other news, Rebekah Caverhill has won her eviction case against the idiot in her house - the eviction proceedings are due to go ahead quite quickly (I think this weekend). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2186 "2013-09-25T02:49:09Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > And as I just saw on the evening news, [Mountie Barbie!](http://www.themountieshop.ca/product/7401.html) 🙂 > > In other news, Rebekah Caverhill has won her eviction case against the idiot in her house - the eviction proceedings are due to go ahead quite quickly (I think this weekend). I kind of got the sense that part of the problem was Ms. Caverhill herself, who seemingly did not understand how to evict someone. While it can be a bothersome process, the story sort of hinted that she didn’t quite get that there IS a process; she seemed to want the cops to throw the guy out without going through the civil process of eviction. The cops - quite correctly - refused to do so, because it IS a civil matter. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2187 "2013-09-25T03:56:12Z")
[John Cleese](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/arts-video/john-cleese-explains-why-he-loves-canada/article14492472/) on why he loves Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2188 "2013-09-25T04:35:07Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > To me, the strangest question about these Freemen is - do they actually believe the bullshit they’re spouting, or is it all a cynical attempt to slow down the pace of justice? Based on many of the Freemen court decisions I’ve read, and other research I’ve done, they really do believe it. However, the gurus that Associate Chief Justice Rooke referred to in the _Meads_ decision are another story. My own feeling (again, based on research) indicate that many of them know that they are the 21st-century version of snake-oil salesmen, peddling a bogus cure-all to desperate people. One in particular sells a “Become a Freeman” kit for $250 a pop; and yet, there is no evidence (that I’ve found anyway) that he himself follows the advice that he gives in the kit. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2189 "2013-09-25T04:38:07Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > [John Cleese](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/arts-video/john-cleese-explains-why-he-loves-canada/article14492472/) on why he loves Canada. We’re “deliciously sane” until it comes to international hockey. That’s our only chance to suddenly start tootling our own flute. And by God we better not lose to the USA! (Sochi 2014!) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2190 "2013-09-25T04:43:13Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > [John Cleese](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/arts-video/john-cleese-explains-why-he-loves-canada/article14492472/) on why he loves Canada. “… I think that’s why you’re deliciously sane…” Thanks, John! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2191 "2013-09-25T11:29:30Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > And as I just saw on the evening news, [Mountie Barbie!](http://www.themountieshop.ca/product/7401.html) 🙂 > > In other news, Rebekah Caverhill has won her eviction case against the idiot in her house - the eviction proceedings are due to go ahead quite quickly (I think this weekend). Nothing new there. In the 60s there was a [Mountie GI Joe](http://www.earthlyissues.com/images/rare-actionfigures-gijoemountie_203155.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2192 "2013-09-25T16:21:17Z")
Anyone else, feeling a little nostalgic to see John Cleese looking so old? I grew up in the 70’s watching Flying Circus episodes when they were rebroadcast on PBS. I remember driving our Scout Leaders bananas by reciting and recreating Pythonesque skits ad nauseum. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2193 "2013-09-26T11:55:44Z")
Quebec is offering free accomodation to that Alberta Freemen. [Quebec landlady says she had run-in with 'sovereign' man at centre of rental dispute | CTV News](http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/quebec-landlady-says-she-had-run-in-with-sovereign-man-at-centre-of-rental-dispute-1.1471329) ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2194 "2013-09-26T14:49:08Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Both items just reinforce that I don’t have the patience to become a judge, in case I hadn’t sorted that out a long time ago… > > To me, the strangest question about these Freemen is - do they actually believe the bullshit they’re spouting, or is it all a cynical attempt to slow down the pace of justice? I’m half way through the Meads document and by about p.20 I came to the same conclusion; but my problem would be just wanting to shoot the guy and be done with it…“blah blah blah, the Maximus is the only law, BLAM!” All assets awarded to the spouse as the corporate identity is gone, case closed. I am gaining a great appreciation for the humour and grace that Judges (and by extension, barristers and solicitors generally) must possess for the most part, having to listen and wade through twaddle like this. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2195 "2013-09-26T15:09:04Z")
Magical incantations that suddenly blow the legal system wide open - WIDE OPEN!! ::Grey:: living flesh and blood sentient-collection of electrons on your screen ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2196 "2013-09-26T15:11:54Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Quebec is offering free accomodation to that Alberta Freemen. [http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/quebec-landlady-says-she-had-run-in-with-sovereign-man-at-centre-of-rental-dispute-1.1471329](http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/quebec-landlady-says-she-had-run-in-with-sovereign-man-at-centre-of-rental-dispute-1.1471329) Awww see, that’s just Quebec trying to get on the right side of public opinion for the first time this month 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2197 "2013-09-26T15:36:45Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Magical incantations that suddenly blow the legal system wide open - WIDE OPEN!! > > ::Grey:: living flesh and blood sentient-collection of electrons on your screen Isn’t that what the second amendment is for? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2198 "2013-09-26T16:12:23Z")
There’s a lot of it going around apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2199 "2013-09-26T17:00:32Z")
> [@swampspruce](#): > > I’m half way through the Meads document and by about p.20 I came to the same conclusion; but my problem would be just wanting to shoot the guy and be done with it…“blah blah blah, the Maximus is the only law, BLAM!” All assets awarded to the spouse as the corporate identity is gone, case closed. > I am gaining a great appreciation for the humour and grace that Judges (and by extension, barristers and solicitors generally) must possess for the most part, having to listen and wade through twaddle like this. I’m sitting here just chortling away at the mind picture you’ve created. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2200 "2013-09-26T17:26:20Z")
My most recent newsletter from the Law Society had another warning to the legal profession about dealing with Freemen. It was mostly standard stuff: do not notarize their Freeman documents, know their usual courtroom tactics, and so on. There are links to the _Meads_ decision and the _ANB v. Hancock_ decision, and to other Law Societies’ similar warnings. But it did make me wonder–was this warning, coming as it did now, in response to the current news about the Calgary Freeman? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=109) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=111)