# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LC\_Strawhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LC\_Strawhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LC_Strawhouse)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2281 "2013-10-05T16:38:16Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Apparently, Parizeau of all people came out swinging against the Quebec gov’t’s modest proposal:
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> The guy infamous for blaming “ethnics and the money vote” now says the current Quebec Charter “goes too far”, is “frightening” immigrants, and allows federalists to pose as the “real defender” of minorities.

Is it just me, or would “Money and Ethnics” be an awesome name for the new NHL team in Quebec City (if they get it)?

It’s more intimidating than “Nordiques” and it pays tribute to some Quebec history! Plus, it would probably accurately describe the team as well. 😛

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2282 "2013-10-05T16:45:51Z")

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No. It’d be a sick name for an indie rock band, though.

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**Author:** ![LC\_Strawhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LC\_Strawhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LC_Strawhouse)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2283 "2013-10-05T16:51:44Z")

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Yeah but just imagine the news headlines: “Montreal’s playoff hopes crushed by Money and Ethnics once again…”

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2284 "2013-10-05T16:55:48Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Yet more Freemen occupying places they don’t own:
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> [Freemen-On-The-Land Grande Prairie: RCMP Issue Warning After Movement Members Refuse Eviction](http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/10/04/freemen-on-the-land-grande-prairie_n_4045971.html?ir=Canada+Alberta)

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Gods, I hope that ends well. That’s the last thing we need - well armed wackos who think the law doesn’t apply to them roaming the back country…

Sounds like a couple of Republican congressmen on vacation now that they’ve shut down their government.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2285 "2013-10-05T18:51:31Z")

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Actually, now that I look at my post again, it doesn’t sound any different than hunting season in rural Manitoba; the only descriptor that’s missing is ‘drunk’.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2286 "2013-10-05T22:56:52Z")

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> [@antonio107](#):
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> I’ve written a few anthems of the religious variety, so I figured I’d take a crack tooling around with the syllables in Ministre’s. It leaves something to be desired, but oh well! Version 2.01.
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> My very British organ teacher never ceased to tell me that the beginning “O Canada” was obviously written by a French Canadian, because no self respecting English composer would put the “da” on a downbeat, lol.
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> The tune also sounds as if it were grifted from Mozart’s “Die Zauberflöte,” but I’m sure I mentioned that before. 😛

[Here’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38SifUUyUaY) the original Mozart piece, if anyone would like to compare.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2287 "2013-10-06T02:59:34Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Actually, now that I look at my post again, it doesn’t sound any different than hunting season in rural Manitoba; the only descriptor that’s missing is ‘drunk’.

I don’t think being a Freeman precludes being drunk. Some of their documents that I’ve seen, read like they were drafted after … well, more than a few glasses of draft.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2288 "2013-10-06T11:28:04Z")

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[Tarek Loubani and John Greyson are freed.](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/10/05/egypt_frees_jailed_canadians_tarek_loubani_and_john_greyson.html) No word in that article on what caused the change of heart on the part of the Egyptians.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2289 "2013-10-07T21:55:00Z")

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The Blue Angels are grounded by the US government shutdown, so the [Snowbirds take their place](http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/10/05/canadian-snowbirds-take-the-skies-at-annual-california-capital-airshow/). I think it’s quite cool that the US gets a taste of how well our Royal Canadian Air Force flies in an aerobatic show.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2290 "2013-10-08T00:58:03Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> The Blue Angels are grounded by the US government shutdown, so the [Snowbirds take their place](http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/10/05/canadian-snowbirds-take-the-skies-at-annual-california-capital-airshow/). I think it’s quite cool that the US gets a taste of how well our Royal Canadian Air Force flies in an aerobatic show.

Cool! I lived in Moose Jaw for awhile (home of the Snowbirds, of course), and it never got old, seeing them up in the sky doing their thing regularly.

[Only in Canada, you say?](http://thecurlingnews.com/blog/2013/09/men-of-curling-calendar-announced/) 😃 (Men of Curling calendar.)

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2291 "2013-10-08T01:39:16Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> [Only in Canada, you say?](http://thecurlingnews.com/blog/2013/09/men-of-curling-calendar-announced/) 😃 (Men of Curling calendar.)

Better known as ‘Men getting their rocks off’. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2292 "2013-10-08T02:10:00Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Better known as ‘Men getting their rocks off’. 🙂

OOOOOooooooh! You’re so bad!

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2293 "2013-10-08T09:14:07Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> The Blue Angels are grounded by the US government shutdown, so the [Snowbirds take their place](http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/10/05/canadian-snowbirds-take-the-skies-at-annual-california-capital-airshow/). I think it’s quite cool that the US gets a taste of how well our Royal Canadian Air Force flies in an aerobatic show.

Great to hear! I’ve seen the Snowbirds fly many times at airshows in Canada; I’m glad that our American friends have the chance to see them also. Hope they enjoy the show!

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2294 "2013-10-09T00:19:47Z")

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A [Liberal majority government](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nsvotes2013/stephen-mcneil-leads-liberals-to-majority-in-nova-scotia-1.1929962?cmp=fbtl) for Nova Scotia. (We don’t seem to have many people from Atlantic Canada on the SDMB…)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2295 "2013-10-09T00:36:58Z")

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I didn’t even know they were having an election!

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2296 "2013-10-09T00:48:22Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I didn’t even know they were having an election!

Yeah, not much in the news. I have a brother in Halifax, otherwise, I wouldn’t have known either.

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**Author:** ![JFLuvly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@JFLuvly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JFLuvly)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2297 "2013-10-09T14:05:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> A Liberal majority government for Nova Scotia. (We don’t seem to have many people from Atlantic Canada on the SDMB…)

I’m here! The results were pretty predictable, The NDP has not really accomplished anything except for raising the prices on pretty much everything and the Harper government doesn’t know we exist, so a Liberal majority was really no surprise. The lesser of three evils this time, until they mess everything up over the next three or four years.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2298 "2013-10-09T14:29:52Z")

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Apparently this was the first time in over 130+ years that the voters of Nova Scotia didn’t give a second term to a first term government. That must sting a bit.

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**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2299 "2013-10-09T15:41:46Z")

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> [@swampspruce](#):
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> I have issues not with the concept of eliminating the gender bias, because I do think that should be addressed, but how stupid the proposed change sounds. Try singing it in your head, it makes no sense whatsoever.  
> “True patriot love in all of us command?” Clunky and dumb.  
> I agree with\*\* Le Ministre\*\*, the original lyrics in french are much better. Anyone feel like taking a stab a close to literal translation to english? Of course, we’ll have to alter that bit about “Il sait porter la croix” as Quebec’s C of V would forbid it and other religions might misconstrue the meaning…:eek:

[from here](http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/women/Column+What+deal+change+anthem/8988815/story.html)

> [@](#):
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> As far as I can tell, their case is simple, and eminently reasonable: In the 1908 version of O Canada, the English lyrics contained the words **“true patriot love thou dost in us command** ,” which in 1913, were changed to “in all thy sons command” for no discernible reason. One account has it that the words were masculinized to help recruit soldiers for the First World War, but I doubt anyone will argue that those brave young men who lined up to fight and die for their country, did so because the anthem was changed to reflect machismo.

Maybe change it back to the original?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2300 "2013-10-09T20:03:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Ottawa Citizen]  
…which in 1913, were changed to “in all thy sons command” for no discernible reason. One account has it that the words were masculinized to help recruit soldiers for the First World War…  
[/QUOTE]

Given that the First World War didn’t start until 1914 and wasn’t something a lot of people saw coming, you sure have to hand it to the anthem guy who was thinking that far ahead.

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