# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 124
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2461 "2013-10-31T17:03:47Z")
Nicely done. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeke_N.Destroi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2462 "2013-10-31T18:10:31Z")
> [@Le Monstre de l'au-delà](#): > > We’ll see if the Ford video is all it was cracked up to be… You know he’ll just blow smoke. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2463 "2013-10-31T19:29:04Z")
He’s too puffed up; he needs to be taken down a peg. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2464 "2013-10-31T19:32:14Z")
He hopes to do hard labor. Apparently, they break rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2465 "2013-10-31T19:33:53Z")
I would like to thank the voters of the GTA for providing us with this quality entertainment. I know it’s a sacrifice for you, but I want to assure you that from this Saskatonian’s perspective it’s totally worth it. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2466 "2013-10-31T19:41:22Z")
> [@swampspruce](#): > > That’s OK, Leaffan, economists don’t either. I got into a spirited discussion with a friend about whether or not economics is actually a science; BTW, it’s not. Of course it is, and anyone who says it isn’t doesn’t even know what science is. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2467 "2013-10-31T19:43:41Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > I would like to thank the voters of the GTA for providing us with this quality entertainment. I know it’s a sacrifice for you, but I want to assure you that from this Saskatonian’s perspective it’s totally worth it. I for one will not be sorry if I never have to hear the words “Ford” and “crack” in the same sentence again … for one, my brain usually punishes me by inserting the word “sweaty” in there. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2468 "2013-10-31T20:43:59Z")
If Jerry Springer could pay for hookers with a personal cheque _and_ win re-election, I still think Rob Ford could beat these charges. ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2469 "2013-10-31T20:55:24Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Of course it is, and anyone who says it isn’t doesn’t even know what science is. I’ve only dabbled in economic readings in undergrad (I did get an A in ECON 101, lol) but a lot of the theories I’ve read seem to lack A) Control groups; and B) Falsifiability. So arguments about flat taxes and monetary policy sound more like Freudian Psychology and less like Applied mathematics, in the sciencey spectrum of science. YMMV, and I could be talking out of my ass, but it would explain why we have economists from a wide range of political persuasions. Unless certain economists are the bane of their profession, like those doctors who write about the dangers of fluoride in water. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2470 "2013-10-31T21:15:31Z")
Rob Ford’s Halloween: “I got a rock.” Block-head. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2471 "2013-11-01T00:20:26Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > I for one will not be sorry if I never have to hear the words “Ford” and “crack” in the same sentence again … for one, my brain usually punishes me by inserting the word “sweaty” in there. 😉 AAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!! MY BRAIN!!! Justin Trudeau has been speaking in Calgary; last I heard, he was blaming PM Harper for not ramming the Keystone Pipeline through. FFS, wasn’t he talking about how bad the Keystone Pipeline is before? I appreciate that Trudeau is making at least a marginal effort to make headway in Alberta, but I for one am not buying it (part of it is his name, I have to admit - I still have a hard time not spitting after every time I say “Trudeau” 🙂 ). ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2472 "2013-11-01T00:31:28Z")
> [@Zombie Whisperer](#): > > AAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!! MY BRAIN!!! > Justin Trudeau has been speaking in Calgary; last I heard, he was blaming PM Harper for not ramming the Keystone Pipeline through. FFS, wasn’t he talking about how bad the Keystone Pipeline is before? I appreciate that Trudeau is making at least a marginal effort to make headway in Alberta, but I for one am not buying it (part of it is his name, I have to admit - I still have a hard time not spitting after every time I say “Trudeau” 🙂 ). I do not get this anti-pipeline shit. There’s a gazillion miles of pipelines already existing and no one gave a shit when they were built. You would think with the latest train wrecks involving flammable petroleum products that people would give their heads a shake. What the fuck is it with this crowd anyway? I really don’t get it. Hey, we need energy. We need to deliver energy. Until we have a cost-effective alternative this includes oil, and it includes natural gas, fracked or not. Oh, and windmills aren’t going to replace nuclear, which is the greatest thing since huge waterfalls. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2473 "2013-11-01T01:17:02Z")
I don’t get it either; until we develop teleportation, we’re still going to have to transport oil. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2474 "2013-11-01T14:42:15Z")
> [@Zombie Whisperer](#): > > That’s the part I don’t get, either - I’ve worked in many accounting departments, and there is always someone higher up who approves the expenses. Is there no one who looks at the expenses Senators try to claim and tell them this is okay, this is crap? The thing is, there are no higher-ups for a legislative chamber. The Senate has a board of internal economy, which sets the rules (loosely defined, it appears), which the Senators then follow. The individuals who review the claims are public employees, responsible to the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2475 "2013-11-01T14:51:51Z")
I think the position of [Clerk of the Senate](http://sen.parl.gc.ca/portal/clerk-e.htm) has a lot to do with the chaos. \*Pursuant to the Senate Administrative Rules, the Clerk is the head of the administration and accountable to the Senate through the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration. In the list of the protocol established by the Department of Canadian Heritage, \*\*he is second in rank among chief officers of the Public Service after the Clerk of the Privy Council. \*_As well, he is chief Table Officer and senior procedural advisor to the Speaker. The office of the Clerk of the Parliaments dates from the early parliaments of the reign of Edward I._ ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2476 "2013-11-01T15:11:19Z")
I take the recent train derailments as a further indication that we should be moving on from fossil fuels altogether. We’ve known for my entire lifetime that the pollution involved in extracting, transporting and burning fossil fuels meant that they’re not worth the damage we’re doing to the planet, to other species, and to ourselves. We Canadians should be moving forward to develop the new green technologies, not trying to get rich off an outdated source of energy. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2477 "2013-11-01T15:33:52Z")
> [@Le Monstre de l'au-delà](#): > > I take the recent train derailments as a further indication that we should be moving on from fossil fuels altogether. We’ve known for my entire lifetime that the pollution involved in extracting, transporting and burning fossil fuels meant that they’re not worth the damage we’re doing to the planet, to other species, and to ourselves. We Canadians should be moving forward to develop the new green technologies, not trying to get rich off an outdated source of energy. We are moving forward. The problem is that there is no immediate replacement. We’ve made investments in solar energy, in wind power. We have hybrid cars, and natural gas cars, and now electrical cars. There’s no solution right now that is a turnkey replacement for oil and gasoline. I’m sure at some point we’ll find a solution. Maybe someone will find a viable method of producing hydrogen that is cost-effective, or perhaps a breakthrough in battery storage might occur, but right now there is no real alternative. So, although oil may be an outdated source of power, it’s the best one we have. So, why not extract it and help our economy? We can, and should, milk this for as long as we can until a cost-effective alternative becomes available. That could still be another 50 years away, perhaps a hundred years away. But really, considering the planet is 5 billion years old, I’m sure the old gal can wait another 100 years till we figure this out. Drop in an ocean. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2478 "2013-11-01T16:38:32Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I remember being in a car accident. I walked away fine. I guess car accidents are no big deal. Most people walk away from car accidents with no a scratch, so why worry about car accidents? Exactly! You forgot to mention that the old couple in the other car were killed and the baby in the back seat has a permanent disability. I survived, but it’s not my fault that they have lower constitutions and are obviously not as lucky as me. ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2479 "2013-11-01T17:35:31Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > We are moving forward. The problem is that there is no immediate replacement. We’ve made investments in solar energy, in wind power. We have hybrid cars, and natural gas cars, and now electrical cars. There’s no solution right now that is a turnkey replacement for oil and gasoline. > > I’m sure at some point we’ll find a solution. Maybe someone will find a viable method of producing hydrogen that is cost-effective, or perhaps a breakthrough in battery storage might occur, but right now there is no real alternative. > > So, although oil may be an outdated source of power, it’s the best one we have. So, why not extract it and help our economy? We can, and should, milk this for as long as we can until a cost-effective alternative becomes available. That could still be another 50 years away, perhaps a hundred years away. But really, considering the planet is 5 billion years old, I’m sure the old gal can wait another 100 years till we figure this out. Drop in an ocean. And the next best power source after it appears to be Uranium, so Canada is in good shape for years to come! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2480 "2013-11-01T18:25:43Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The thing is, there are no higher-ups for a legislative chamber. The Senate has a board of internal economy, which sets the rules (loosely defined, it appears), which the Senators then follow. The individuals who review the claims are public employees, responsible to the Senate. I’m no genius, and not even a certified accountant, but even I can see the problems with that set-up! :eek: > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > I take the recent train derailments as a further indication that we should be moving on from fossil fuels altogether. We’ve known for my entire lifetime that the pollution involved in extracting, transporting and burning fossil fuels meant that they’re not worth the damage we’re doing to the planet, to other species, and to ourselves. We Canadians should be moving forward to develop the new green technologies, not trying to get rich off an outdated source of energy. We totally should be. Now, if we could just get all the multi-billion dollar oil companies and all the multi-billion dollar oil lobbyists in the US on board with new technologies that will put them out of business… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=123) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=125)