# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2621 "2013-11-14T20:04:45Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > You think _you’re_ sick of it? It gets worse as you get closer to the epicentre. Today’s _Toronto Star_ has, I kid you not, a _sixteen-page special section_ on the subject. Phew! A 16-page special section on all this is just silly, IMHO. In other news, the former mayor of Lethbridge is suing a local blogger for defamation. Not the kind of thing that would make the national news, but locally newsworthy, certainly. How I wish that the Rob Ford situation was only _locally_ newsworthy! ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2622 "2013-11-14T20:07:20Z")
Sorry–double post. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2623 "2013-11-15T00:22:27Z")
[Ouch,](http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/11/11/andrew-coyne-justin-trudeaus-gaffes-reveal-the-gulf-between-his-intellectual-reach-and-grasp/) that’s gotta hurt. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2624 "2013-11-15T00:30:26Z")
Now Toronto schools [aren’t allowed](http://globalnews.ca/news/968114/school-trips-to-toronto-city-hall-suspended-stintz/) to send their kids on trips to City Hall. From the article: Toronto Councillor Karen Stintz has confirmed that city staff have suspended all school trips to city hall deeming the environment to be “unsafe.” ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2625 "2013-11-15T01:06:23Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > I keep wondering what his wife thinks of all this. A blow job by an intern suddenly seems like a traffic ticket. I wonder about how she feels about his press conference over pussy eating. [http://youtu.be/JWj0en\_dQKI](http://youtu.be/JWj0en_dQKI) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2626 "2013-11-15T01:35:53Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > [Ouch,](http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/11/11/andrew-coyne-justin-trudeaus-gaffes-reveal-the-gulf-between-his-intellectual-reach-and-grasp/) that’s gotta hurt. He’s a sloppy and shallow thinker, is he? I don’t think I want a sloppy, shallow thinker as my Prime Minister. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2627 "2013-11-15T01:40:27Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > He’s a sloppy and shallow thinker, is he? I don’t think I want a sloppy, shallow thinker as my Prime Minister. Hmmm… Maybe some of this should go into attack ads? Now what do you think? Some of this stuff is gold for the Conservatives: gold! ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2628 "2013-11-15T02:19:53Z")
Hey, at least he thinks, rather then bulling his way through stuff with drunken bravado! ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2629 "2013-11-15T02:23:50Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Hey, at least he thinks, rather then bulling his way through stuff with drunken bravado! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2630 "2013-11-15T03:46:39Z")
What is it with the Liberal party’s recent inability to pick a leader who has the chops to get the job done? The last one was Martin Jr., who was sunk by the sponsorship scandal. Like him or not, like his policies or not (Harper is too far the right on social and environmental issues for me), since 2006 a fellow can handle the job has held it. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2631 "2013-11-15T03:54:29Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Hmmm… Maybe some of this should go into attack ads? Now what do you think? Some of this stuff is gold for the Conservatives: gold! Still not sold. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2632 "2013-11-15T03:58:08Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > What is it with the Liberal party’s recent inability to pick a leader who has the chops to get the job done? The last one was Martin Jr., who was sunk by the sponsorship scandal. Like him or not, like his policies or not (Harper is too far the right on social and environmental issues for me), since 2006 a fellow can handle the job has held it. Good question. Marc Garneau would have been ideal. Holy hell, I would have entertained [Marc Garneau](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Garneau) as a leader. He has education and credentials up the wazoo: > [@](#): > > He received a Bachelor of Science degree in Engineering Physics from the Royal Military College of Canada in 1970, and in 1973 received a Doctorate in Electrical Engineering from the Imperial College of Science and Technology in London, England. From 1982 to 1983, he attended the Canadian Forces College in Toronto.[2] > > In 1974, Garneau began his career in the Royal Canadian Navy as a Navy combat systems engineer on HMCS Algonquin. He was promoted to Commander in 1982 while at Staff College and was transferred to Ottawa in 1983. In January 1986, he was promoted to Naval Captain and retired from the Navy in 1989. > [@](#): > > Garneau was one of the first Canadian Astronauts and he became the first Canadian in outer space in October 1984.[8] In 1984, he was seconded to the new Canadian Astronaut Program (CAP), one of six chosen from over 4,000 applicants. He flew on the shuttle Challenger, STS-41-G from October 5 to 13, 1984, as payload specialist. He was promoted to Captain in 1986, and left the Navy in 1989, to become deputy director of the CAP. In 1992-93, he underwent further training to become a mission specialist. He worked as CAPCOM for a number of shuttle flights and was on two further flights himself - STS-77 (May 19 to 29, 1996) and STS-97 (to the ISS, November 30 to December 11, 2000). He has logged over 677 hours in space . And Justin Trudeau, the part time drama teacher gets the nod? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2633 "2013-11-15T04:04:01Z")
Exactly. I just don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2634 "2013-11-15T22:46:58Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Good question. Marc Garneau would have been ideal. Holy hell, I would have entertained [Marc Garneau](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Garneau) as a leader. He has education and credentials up the wazoo: > > And Justin Trudeau, the part time drama teacher gets the nod? 😕 > [@Muffin](#): > > Exactly. I just don’t get it. To be fair to Justin Trudeau, he is very man-pretty and he has the correct last name to win a shit-tonne of votes among the masses of people who don’t invest a lot of time into being informed about anything more important than who is winning the latest season of Survivor. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2635 "2013-11-16T01:26:26Z")
He seems like he’s good at telling speeches that idiots can quote on Facebook. It’s paid huge dividends for Barack Obama. I have no doubt Trudeau will form a big majority government. ---
**Author:** ![LC\_Strawhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LC\_Strawhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LC_Strawhouse)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2636 "2013-11-16T01:38:38Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Exactly. I just don’t get it. To be fair, just because someone is godlike in one field of endeavor does not mean they are particularly suited for politics (or any other field) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2637 "2013-11-16T03:55:05Z")
> [@antonio107](#): > > \ I have no doubt Trudeau will form a big majority government. That’s what you really see happening? I don’t know how it will go - I can see parts of Ontario and Quebec liking him, but I don’t see the West or the Maritimes going for him. ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2638 "2013-11-16T07:25:52Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > That’s what you really see happening? I don’t know how it will go - I can see parts of Ontario and Quebec liking him, but I don’t see the West or the Maritimes going for him. I’m cynical to a fault! What can I say? If you believe the Politicos I go to school with, Naheed Nenshi has turned the whole of the Prairie provinces socialist. 😉 I can see him doing well in K-beck and ON, and making inroads in BC. That sounds like enough to carry a majority, no? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2639 "2013-11-16T10:36:58Z")
> [@antonio107](#): > > I can see him doing well in K-beck and ON, and making inroads in BC. That sounds like enough to carry a majority, no? Maybe, maybe not. I know enough people back in Ontario who wouldn’t vote for a party led by a Trudeau if you paid them. On the other hand, if that party was led by Garneau… Of course, the only poll that counts is on election day; though it will be interesting to see what develops in the runup to that. ---
**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2640 "2013-11-16T15:39:20Z")
I know plenty of people here in Quebec who won’t vote Liberal next time either, so I’m wondering if the NDP will still be strong here and elsewhere throughout the country. They wouldn’t be strong enough to get their leader elected, but that might lead to another 4 years with Harper, and give him a chance to transform this country completely-- into a country where I wouldn’t want to live. Personally, I always thought, and still think, that choosing Justin Trudeau as leader was a mistake. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=133)