# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 139
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2761 "2013-11-25T17:44:53Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Meh. When he started rapping (I think), I turned off and waited for the second half. > > 'Nuff said on that topic. > > On another topic, since when do Canadians hold their hats over their hearts for the national anthem? That’s something Americans do. Yet all around me at the sports bar, people stood up and placed their baseball caps over their hearts during the national anthem. That’s something Americans do. We’re not Americans; we do not do what Americans do. > > I stayed seated, in the sports bar, with one hand on my beer. After attending numerous Blue Jays games, I can attest that during the national anthem before a sports games, Americans put their hands over their hearts and face the US flag; Canadians just keep their hands on their beer. > > It did not sit well with me. When did we become Americans? That’s weird - I hope it isn’t becoming a thing. I did see some people doing that at the Cranbrook hockey game we went to, but I’m pretty sure they actually _were_ Americans. I sang the national anthem along with Serena Ryder in my house, but just because I like practicing singing it. I did not sing the French words, since I do not know them. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2762 "2013-11-25T17:52:27Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I did not sing the French words, since I do not know them. I know them phonetically. I have read them and can translate much of it, but it’s reeeally easy to fake the words phonetically if you’ve watched like, 30 years of Canadian hockey games. (That’s probably about how long ago they started incorporating the French portion.) Maybe that’s not much of a thing out west. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2763 "2013-11-25T17:57:29Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > I know them phonetically. I have read them and can translate much of it, but it’s reeeally easy to fake the words phonetically if you’ve watched like, 30 years of Canadian hockey games. (That’s probably about how long ago they started incorporating the French portion.) > > Maybe that’s not much of a thing out west. 😉 Nope, it really isn’t. The only time I hear any French in the national anthem is at something like the Grey Cup, which is televised nationally. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2764 "2013-11-25T17:59:54Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > On another topic, since when do Canadians hold their hats over their hearts for the national anthem? That’s something Americans do… Well, Alberta _is_ the most culturally American of the provinces… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2765 "2013-11-25T23:25:54Z")
[First Nations reject federal education reform proposal.](http://ca.news.yahoo.com/federal-proposals-first-nations-education-not-acceptable-atleo-211135996.html) From the article: > [@](#): > > Atleo says any agreement must allow for native control of education, provide a statutory funding guarantee, recognize native languages and culture, provide shared oversight and ensure continuing and meaningful engagement…First Nations also say they don’t want to be subject to the oversight of a federal bureaucracy. I’m interested to see what their response would be to a system like the one everybody else in Canada works under; the federal government will fund your education, but you will conform to these federal standards. Don’t conform to these standards, we stop funding you. That sounds fair, no? Do they think that other school systems get to take the funding but not answer to any oversight? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2766 "2013-11-26T08:43:07Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Well, Alberta _is_ the most culturally American of the provinces… 🙂 Perhaps it may seem so to residents of other provinces, but I can assure you that Albertans are patriotic Canadians. In spite of the fact that Alberta leans a little more right than other provinces, it is still far to the left of today’s United States. The vast majority of Albertans do not want private health care, with it’s co-pays and deductibles; uncontrolled gun usage (“A guy in Nose Hill Park asked me if I’d been to the Stampede; I felt threatened and wished I’d had a gun”); and religion dominating politics. I will grant that to a degree, that last point is true. But the religious rarely carry enough votes to make a difference. Regardless, Albertans do not see themselves as “America North.” Which is why it puzzles me that some Albertans, during the singing of the national anthem prior to the Grey Cup game, acted … well, just like Americans. ---
**Author:** ![JFLuvly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@JFLuvly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JFLuvly)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2767 "2013-11-26T14:41:43Z")
Looks like the Feds are in trouble again… > **[Medical marijuana users accuse Health Canada of privacy breach | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/medical-marijuana-privacy-breach-sparks-lawsuit-1.2440300)** > > A Halifax law firm has filed a proposed class-action lawsuit against Health Canada, accusing the federal department of violating the privacy of medical marijuana users. Essentially they outed all medical marijuana patients. …and that is coming on the heels of this lawsuit because of the changes in the Medical Marijuana Access Program ---
**Author:** ![JFLuvly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@JFLuvly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JFLuvly)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2768 "2013-11-26T14:53:25Z")
Sorry, not sure why the link didn’t add > **[Vancouver Sun](https://vancouversun.com/)** > > Read latest breaking news, updates, and headlines. Vancouver Sun offers information on latest national and international events & more. ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2769 "2013-11-26T15:10:55Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > …long list of old Ford activities But what has he done for us lately?? If he’s going to set a standard for entertainment we need him to keep it up. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2770 "2013-11-26T15:37:14Z")
> [@Moonlitherial](#): > > But what has he done for us lately?? > > If he’s going to set a standard for entertainment we need him to keep it up. > **[Rob Ford scandal gets porn parody flick, bus tour](https://torontosun.com/2013/11/25/rob-ford-scandal-gets-porn-parody-flick-bus-tour)** > > Mayor Rob Ford’s ongoing crack cocaine scandal got even weirder Monday with a porn parody movie hitting the Internet and an Etobicoke bus tour organized by self-pro… > [@](#): > > Mayor Rob Ford’s ongoing crack cocaine scandal got even weirder Monday with a porn parody movie hitting the Internet and an Etobicoke bus tour organized by self-proclaimed evangelical Satan worshippers. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2771 "2013-11-26T16:11:40Z")
_Evangelical_ Satan worshippers? That’s a new one on me. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2772 "2013-11-26T16:26:32Z")
It’s a parody cult – [del]pokes[/del] directs derision at Christian evangelicals. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2773 "2013-11-26T17:12:52Z")
A very good article from Commander Chris Hadfield in this month’s ‘Wired’ - [We Should Treat Earth as Kindly as We Treat Spacecraft](http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/11/chris-hadfield-wired/). ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2774 "2013-11-26T17:49:35Z")
See now that’s what I’m talking about. I’m sorry I didn’t mean it please make the bad man stop. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2775 "2013-11-26T19:50:22Z")
The big question is whether the Ford circus has sufficient momentum to keep on rolling even if Ford cleans up his act a fair bit or keels over, a la the media perpetuating the JonBennet Ramsey long after there really was nothing left to present. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2776 "2013-11-26T20:40:11Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > The big question is whether the Ford circus has sufficient momentum to keep on rolling even if Ford cleans up his act a fair bit or keels over, a la the media perpetuating the JonBennet Ramsey long after there really was nothing left to present. Well, today’s _Toronto Star_ has a Royson James column entitled, “Mayor Rob Ford begins to rally the gullible”… ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2777 "2013-11-27T00:22:34Z")
Begins??? Has he been doing anything but for several years now? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2778 "2013-11-27T00:40:16Z")
He wasn’t rallying the gullible when he was in drunken stupors or when he was duking it out with his wife. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2779 "2013-11-27T06:43:33Z")
Nicer topics not involving Mr. Ford: I’m likely to find myself in Calgary over Christmas, and possibly New Year’s. Any chance we can organize a Calgary Dopefest at that time? (Non-Calgary/Albertan Dopers who find themselves in Calgary would, of course, be more than welcome.) ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/2780 "2013-11-27T07:34:07Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > He wasn’t rallying the gullible when he was in drunken stupors or when he was duking it out with his wife. Maybe he’s trying to upgrade his stupors to comas ? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=138) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=140)