# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/301 "2013-02-01T02:07:12Z")
> [@antonio107](#): > > I’m leery of meeting people off of message boards myself, but idle curiosity makes me wonder what y’all look like, haha. I might be a fly on the wall for an Ottawa dopeout. 😉 I know what you mean, but there’s safety in numbers and it becomes fairly easy over time to spot the nutbars on here. There’s nothing wrong with having a public meeting with a few articulate internet strangers. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/302 "2013-02-01T15:17:30Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > I know what you mean, but there’s safety in numbers and it becomes fairly easy over time to spot the nutbars on here. > > There’s nothing wrong with having a public meeting with a few articulate internet strangers. YMMV. Well, pick a spot and put me down for a maybe. That’s the same (lack of?) courtesy I give my very best friends when they organize parties, lol. Judging by the Canal activities, I’m guessing you want to do this before Easter? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/303 "2013-02-05T04:20:33Z")
My favourite poutine chip truck used [these curds.](http://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/Community+meets+after+fire+destroys+flagship+cheese+factory/7915181/story.html) I heard the chip truck owner interviewed on the radio today and he’s only got about a 3 week buffer. He needs to find another supplier ASAP. Hell, they’re sold in all the grocery stores here and maybe ALL poutine vendors use them in this neck of the woods. Sad story for a cooperatively owned business that’s operated for over 100 years! ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/304 "2013-02-05T13:56:06Z")
Apparently they plan on using a small plant in Mirabel until they rebuild the St Albert site. That will take a year unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/305 "2013-02-06T07:44:40Z")
> **[Attawapiskat residents block road to northern Ontario diamond mine: De Beers](https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/attawapiskat-residents-block-road-to-northern-ontario-diamond-mine-de-beers-1.1144177)** > > De Beers Canada says a group of Attawapiskat residents is blockading the main winter road leading to the company's Victor diamond mine in northern Ontario. Attawapiskat is blocking the winter road that leads to the new diamond mine. This could get interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/306 "2013-02-06T09:45:40Z")
I wonder if De Beers will continue fixing up the mining camp [trailers that it donated](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/story/2013/02/05/sby-attawapiskat-trailers-renovations.html)to Attawapiskat a few years ago to help with emergency housing? Moral of the story: if you have a [billion dollar investment](http://www.debeerscanada.com/files_3/victor-mine.php), make sure that you do not have to pass through a reserve to get to it. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/307 "2013-02-06T10:02:30Z")
Does the road go through the reserve? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/308 "2013-02-06T18:27:44Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > Does the road go through the reserve? Yes. A train runs from Cochrane (which is on Ontario’s regular road network) to Moosonee at the base of Hudson’s Bay/James Bay. For a couple of months each winter, a winter/ice road runs half-way up James Bay from Moosonee to Attawapiskat over the frozen land, water and wetlands. From Attawapiskat, the winter/ice road has been extended inland about 90 km to connect to the de Beers Victor Mine. [Here is a map.](http://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/sites/default/files/northern_ontario_winter_roads_map.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/309 "2013-02-07T18:40:51Z")
I heard about the possible Ottawa Dopefest from **jools**. I’d like to go, if I can find the time. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/310 "2013-02-08T01:53:16Z")
So, you guys all getting prepared for what looks like a helluva storm coming in? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/311 "2013-02-08T02:08:26Z")
It doesn’t sound like it will be too bad in Ottawa, or the corridor up the Ottawa Valley. Which is good, since I need to refresh my Group 3 Radiation Awareness Training in Deep River tomorrow! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/312 "2013-02-08T02:16:11Z")
Toronto might have to call in the Army though. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/313 "2013-02-08T05:20:53Z")
No snow yet in Burlington. Is this another panic over nothing? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/314 "2013-02-08T06:15:57Z")
I heard the same thing as **Cat** and **Leaffan** , but that’s what Environment Canada is reporting, **Rick**. They say it sounds bad. Hope it bypasses you; but at any rate, stay safe and let us know what’s happening. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/315 "2013-02-08T12:29:38Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > It doesn’t sound like it will be too bad in Ottawa, or the corridor up the Ottawa Valley. Which is good, since I need to refresh my Group 3 Radiation Awareness Training in Deep River tomorrow! :eek: Woo Hoo Deep River ! Almost didn’t realize I was driving through that town on my to Algonquin Park last year if it wasn’t for the water tower, and the giant Burger King sign. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/316 "2013-02-08T12:34:06Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > [http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/attawapiskat-residents-block-road-to-northern-ontario-diamond-mine-de-beers-1.1144177](http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/attawapiskat-residents-block-road-to-northern-ontario-diamond-mine-de-beers-1.1144177) > > Attawapiskat is blocking the winter road that leads to the new diamond mine. This could get interesting. Ok, time to bring in the tear gas. If that’s ok with the new Premier of course, doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/317 "2013-02-08T14:28:13Z")
Spence said the blocade of the road could last until spring. (Note that the road melts in the spring, so that would essentially shut down the mine until next mid-winter.) De Beers spoke with Attawapiskat, and the blockade has now been terminated. CBC reported that the blocade was primarily over firing practices at the mine. I leave it to the gentle reader to question whether de Beers, which is aggressively trying to hire people, is trying to rid itself of Indians, or if instead the people who are fired are fired with cause, but I note that what I have heard from a person who works at that mine is that there is one heck of a problem with drunkeness and absenteeism (which mirrors what I observed when I was working at a mine in northern Manitoba). Meanwhile, Indian Conservative Senator Brazeau (who has the worst attendance record in the Senate, who is being investigated for fradulently claiming housing expenses, and who said about Spence at a fundraising speech: "so-called hunger strike” . . . ““I was sick two weeks ago. “I had the flu and I lost five pounds”) has now been arrested, with charges pending for domestic assaul and sexual assault. And the texted reply to Brazeau from Spence’s account? “Typical colonized indian asshole.” I think that these incidents illustrate just how very difficult it is to move forward. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/318 "2013-02-08T14:49:27Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Toronto might have to call in the Army though. 😉 There was an editorial cartoon in the Globe using that joke this AM and I was wondering just how many years that joke had in it. I mean, that snowstorm was what, 14 years ago? There must be people reading the paper today who weren’t even born then. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/319 "2013-02-08T16:26:10Z")
Probably because the retirees in the Parkwoods neighbourhood are still shovelling out from it. ---
**Author:** ![Registered\_at\_Last](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Registered\_at\_Last](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Registered_at_Last)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/320 "2013-02-08T17:53:09Z")
Folks interested in an Ottawa Winterlude Canadopefest check your PMs. Let’s try to get this organized. Once there is a basic plan we will let everyone know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=17)