# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/das_glasperlenspiel/32/2944_2.png) [@Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Das_Glasperlenspiel)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/321 "2013-02-08T18:15:56Z")

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> [@Registered\_at\_Last](#):
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> Folks interested in an Ottawa Winterlude Canadopefest check your PMs. Let’s try to get this organized. Once there is a basic plan we will let everyone know.

Hey, I’m in Ottawa too! Or does Manotick not count?😃

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/322 "2013-02-08T19:06:30Z")

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Our house in North York got quite a dump of snow. I particularly hate shoveling snow while it’s still snowing; then two minutes after you’re done, it looks like you didn’t do anything at all!

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/323 "2013-02-08T20:05:56Z")

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Can’t figure out how to reply all to the message I got about the Ottawa Dopefest, so I"ll say it here.

I unfortunately can’t make it to any events before the very end of this month.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/324 "2013-02-09T15:23:12Z")

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Back safely in Toronto after a day of wild travel; that was quite a storm. Not the worst I’ve ever seen (the one where our stupid asshole mayor called out the army was worse, not that we’ll live that down in my lifetime.), but it was heavy. We waited 45 minutes on the tarmac to make it the last 500 metres to the gate, and in that time, I got to watch one of those baggage buggies get completely stuck in the snow. By the time we pulled forward, its wheels were drifted over.

I’m very sorry I never got a chance to hook up with any of the Alberta Dopers on this trip - next time, I hope.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/325 "2013-02-09T20:32:23Z")

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Well at least now we know who brought the snow to Toronto.

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**Author:** ![Registered\_at\_Last](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Registered\_at\_Last](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Registered_at_Last)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/326 "2013-02-09T22:05:13Z")

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Here in Ottawa the sun is out and sparkling on the new snow. And of course thoughts turn to a Winterlude CanaDopeFest.

Here is the plan for folks that are interested.

Date: the last Sunday of Winterlude: Feb 17th.  
Location: Various Canal-centric sites in Ottawa

Skaters meet at Dows Lake Chalet at 2pm (I think the small chalet near Bronson end of Dow’s Lake is a smaller area and more likely spot for strangers to meet up) Remember its winterlude and parking is horrendous, so allow lots of time to get there.

We will skate downtown & meet with non-skaters at the ice sculptures at around 3pm. We will meet near the entrance to Confederation Park closest to the Canal.

We will retire to a drinking/eating establishment on Elgin St at around 4pm (Mayflower sound good?) Reservations will be made under name of Cecil.

Details of how we can find each other will have to be worked out. I will wear my grey mouse toque and am a woman. Any other identification suggestions welcome. PM to me appreciated to judge number of reservations but not strictly necessary.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/327 "2013-02-10T07:07:13Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Spence said the blocade of the road could last until spring. (Note that the road melts in the spring, so that would essentially shut down the mine until next mid-winter.) De Beers spoke with Attawapiskat, and the blockade has now been terminated. CBC reported that the blocade was primarily over firing practices at the mine. I leave it to the gentle reader to question whether de Beers, which is aggressively trying to hire people, is trying to rid itself of Indians, or if instead the people who are fired are fired with cause, but I note that what I have heard from a person who works at that mine is that there is one heck of a problem with drunkeness and absenteeism (which mirrors what I observed when I was working at a mine in northern Manitoba).\<snip\>

I would really like to know what is happening at the De Beers mine myself. I assume that they would prefer to hire local people, but they also need people who can do the work safely and reliably; they’re a business, not a charity. I’m not going to criticize any business that fires workers who aren’t doing the job they were hired to do. I also assume that the De Beers mine is one of very few local industries where people who live there actually can work and make a living.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/328 "2013-02-11T18:20:21Z")

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It seems that there are 3-1 odds that the next pope may be Marc Oullette from Quebec. I honestly have no idea what that would mean but it would be cool if the first pope from the western hemisphere was Canadian.

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**Author:** ![jools](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@jools](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jools)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/329 "2013-02-12T16:58:53Z")

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It would be cool but I’m not holding my breath… he’s extremely “old school”.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/330 "2013-02-12T17:03:37Z")

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> [@Registered\_at\_Last](#):
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> Here in Ottawa the sun is out and sparkling on the new snow. And of course thoughts turn to a Winterlude CanaDopeFest.
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> Here is the plan for folks that are interested.
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> Date: the last Sunday of Winterlude: Feb 17th.

I’m sorry I can’t make it; I planned very badly for this year’s Family Day weekend. We’re stuck in Toronto the whole time.

Have a great time, all of you.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/331 "2013-02-13T03:40:24Z")

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Without looking it up, can you name the children of Prime Minister Harper, their gender and approximate ages?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/332 "2013-02-13T06:26:34Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> We’re stuck in Toronto the whole time.

I don’t know if “stuck in Toronto” is quite what I’d say if I was unable to get out of town. I’m sure I could find myself something to keep me occupied.

Sometimes, I miss the place.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/333 "2013-02-13T12:55:37Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Without looking it up, can you name the children of Prime Minister Harper, their gender and approximate ages?

Nope. I like that we tend to elect people rather than families (I’m not too thrilled that Trudeau appears to have ridden on his father’s coat tails), and that to some degree we tend to keep politician’s private lives out of politics.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/334 "2013-02-13T14:06:21Z")

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Nope for me too. I only recently learned his wife’s name (I’m pretty sure it’s Laureen).

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/335 "2013-02-13T14:25:58Z")

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I know he’s got one son, who’s likely in his early teens. I think he’s got a daughter as well.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/336 "2013-02-13T14:32:22Z")

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I like that none of us really know.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/337 "2013-02-13T14:46:29Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Without looking it up, can you name the children of Prime Minister Harper, their gender and approximate ages?

I don’t think I can name a single child of any Prime Minister in the history of the world other than Justin Trudeau and Pitt the Younger.

EDIT: Oh, I just thought of Mark Thatcher. Wasn’t he mixed up in a coup attempt?

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/338 "2013-02-13T14:55:47Z")

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(I wasn’t sure about Horace Walpole, but it looks like he was in fact the son of Robert Walpole.)

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**Author:** ![the\_Lady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@the\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_Lady)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/339 "2013-02-13T16:42:21Z")

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Hmm. There’s a girl and a boy, and I remember them in their pyjamas playing hockey with Rick Mercer. But that was several years ago now…  
I think. Or maybe I made that up.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/340 "2013-02-13T18:14:19Z")

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> [@the\_Lady](#):
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> Hmm. There’s a girl and a boy, and I remember them in their pyjamas playing hockey with Rick Mercer. But that was several years ago now…  
> I think. Or maybe I made that up.

Ben, 15  
Rachel, 12

Yes. I had to look it up, although I did know that he had 2 kids, one of each, and the son’s name was Ben. I would have guessed their ages within a couple of years too, but didn’t know exactly and had no idea what the daughter’s name was.

> [@hogarth](#):
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> I don’t think I can name a single child of any Prime Minister in the history of the world other than Justin Trudeau and Pitt the Younger.
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> EDIT: Oh, I just thought of Mark Thatcher. Wasn’t he mixed up in a coup attempt?

Ben Mulroney anyone? 😃

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