# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/341 "2013-02-13T18:36:04Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Ben Mulroney anyone? 😃

Ugh. I must have been subconsciously repressing the memory.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/342 "2013-02-13T18:38:33Z")

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Hugh John Macdonald was John A.'s son, but he was well-known in his own right, as Premier of Manitoba.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/343 "2013-02-13T19:21:05Z")

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I can remember Justin Trudeau’s brothers, Michel and Alexandre (“Sacha” when he was younger).

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/344 "2013-02-13T19:49:16Z")

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I recall Michel, simply because he spent a summer at my canoe club, and more recently was taken out by an avalanche, so it wasn’t through is father that I became aware of him.

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/345 "2013-02-14T12:49:46Z")

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Might be old for some, but I haven’t seen this one before. PM Harper doing a [Rolling Stones cover](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58nyP7qq5Hw&feature=player_embedded)

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/346 "2013-02-16T03:13:02Z")

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> [@Registered\_at\_Last](#):
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> Here in Ottawa the sun is out and sparkling on the new snow. And of course thoughts turn to a Winterlude CanaDopeFest.
> 
> Here is the plan for folks that are interested.
> 
> Date: the last Sunday of Winterlude: Feb 17th.  
> Location: Various Canal-centric sites in Ottawa
> 
> Skaters meet at Dows Lake Chalet at 2pm (I think the small chalet near Bronson end of Dow’s Lake is a smaller area and more likely spot for strangers to meet up) Remember its winterlude and parking is horrendous, so allow lots of time to get there.
> 
> We will skate downtown & meet with non-skaters at the ice sculptures at around 3pm. We will meet near the entrance to Confederation Park closest to the Canal.
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> We will retire to a drinking/eating establishment on Elgin St at around 4pm (Mayflower sound good?) Reservations will be made under name of Cecil.
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> Details of how we can find each other will have to be worked out. I will wear my grey mouse toque and am a woman. Any other identification suggestions welcome. PM to me appreciated to judge number of reservations but not strictly necessary.

So, is this still on? Who’s in who’s out?

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**Author:** ![Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/das_glasperlenspiel/32/2944_2.png) [@Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Das_Glasperlenspiel)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/347 "2013-02-16T14:23:51Z")

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Herr 'spiel and I are planning to meet up with everyone at Confederation Park.

Looking forward to meeting everyone.

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**Author:** ![jools](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@jools](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jools)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/348 "2013-02-16T15:27:10Z")

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I’ll be there, I’ll try to find that Confederation Park if not I’ll be at the Mayflower.

Looking forward to it 🙂

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**Author:** ![Registered\_at\_Last](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Registered\_at\_Last](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Registered_at_Last)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/349 "2013-02-16T21:05:54Z")

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Sunday looks to be a perfect day to be at Winterlude. It should be fun. See you all tomorrow!

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/350 "2013-02-17T03:02:48Z")

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The winter road blocade at Attawapiskat went up again last week, so de Beers is seeking an injunction.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/351 "2013-02-17T03:05:07Z")

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> [@Registered\_at\_Last](#):
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> Sunday looks to be a perfect day to be at Winterlude. It should be fun. See you all tomorrow!

Were the “Cecil” reservations actually made? If not look for “ **Registered at Last** ’s” mouse toque.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/352 "2013-02-17T05:46:00Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> The winter road blocade at Attawapiskat went up again last week, so de Beers is seeking an injunction.

Will the blockaders respect an injunction? Is there an OPP detachment nearby to enforce it? And even if there is, will the OPP do nothing (as in Caledonia); or refuse to enforce it, as police did in Sarnia?

Maybe de Beers would do well to forget an injunction and instead, just suspend operations at Attawapiskat. It seems to me that they’re in the driver’s seat on this one: you blockade, we shut down. We can get by with our other mines and interests around the world. We’re not hurting if we don’t run the Attawapiskat mine–but your friends and relatives who work for us will.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/353 "2013-02-17T13:10:23Z")

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Or the aboriginals might deliberately disobey an injunction so as to push the court into finding them in contempt (the strategy used in Frontenac injunction and the Platinex injunction). In both of these instances, the contempt orders resulted in incarceration, but the Court of Appeal tossed the sentences, taking the teeth out of the injunctions. In the [Frontenac](http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2008/2008onca534/2008onca534.html) contempt, the sentence also included fines, but these too were tossed by the Court of Appeal. The issues of consultation and sovereign control of land are very important to First Nations.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/354 "2013-02-18T03:16:12Z")

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> [@Das\_Glasperlenspiel](#):
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> Herr 'spiel and I are planning to meet up with everyone at Confederation Park.
> 
> Looking forward to meeting everyone.

> [@jools](#):
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> I’ll be there, I’ll try to find that Confederation Park if not I’ll be at the Mayflower.
> 
> Looking forward to it 🙂

> [@Registered\_at\_Last](#):
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> Sunday looks to be a perfect day to be at Winterlude. It should be fun. See you all tomorrow!

Well, twas a small group of Ottawa Dopers:

Das Glasperlenspiel and husband.  
jools: all the way from La Belle Province!  
Registered at Last: Whose mouse toque was our beacon!  
And me.  
Good beer. Good food. Good (anonymous) friends.

I had a great time!

A DopeFest at the Tulip festival would be grand. And a whole lot fricking warmer!

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**Author:** ![Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/das_glasperlenspiel/32/2944_2.png) [@Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Das_Glasperlenspiel)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/355 "2013-02-18T03:38:05Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Well, twas a small group of Ottawa Dopers:
> 
> Das Glasperlenspiel and husband.  
> jools: all the way from La Belle Province!  
> Registered at Last: Whose mouse toque was our beacon!  
> And me.  
> Good beer. Good food. Good (anonymous) friends.
> 
> I had a great time!
> 
> A DopeFest at the Tulip festival would be grand. And a whole lot fricking warmer!

The calendar is marked! It was a great afternoon!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/356 "2013-02-18T04:26:39Z")

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I’m glad you guys all had a good time.

You’re a bunch of Canadians - I’m sure you’ve all done some winter driving and can empathize. We drove home from Prince Albert, Saskatchewan to Calgary, Alberta today - about half of the nine and a half hour trip was on roads that were covered in snow, blowing snow, ice, slush, etc. The worst part was passing the semis - they were blowing all kinds of slush out of their wheels, and passing them meant that for about ten seconds, we were driving completely blind in these conditions. “Nerve-wracking” doesn’t even start to describe it.

[Here’s a good example of what the highways looked like!](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/featherlou/Miscellaneous/securedownload_zps9739d047.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/das_glasperlenspiel/32/2944_2.png) [@Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Das_Glasperlenspiel)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/357 "2013-02-18T04:45:58Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I’m glad you guys all had a good time.
> 
> You’re a bunch of Canadians - I’m sure you’ve all done some winter driving and can empathize. We drove home from Prince Albert, Saskatchewan to Calgary, Alberta today - about half of the nine and a half hour trip was on roads that were covered in snow, blowing snow, ice, slush, etc. The worst part was passing the semis - they were blowing all kinds of slush out of their wheels, and passing them meant that for about ten seconds, we were driving completely blind in these conditions. “Nerve-wracking” doesn’t even start to describe it.
> 
> [Here’s a good example of what the highways looked like!](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/featherlou/Miscellaneous/securedownload_zps9739d047.jpeg)

Glad you got home safe - we experienced similar conditions on several winter drives when we lived in Saskatchewan and Alberta. Not a fun drive.

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**Author:** ![jools](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@jools](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jools)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/358 "2013-02-18T11:54:54Z")

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It was great meeting you guys yesterday, it was a small bunch but a great one 🙂

A special thanks to Registered at last for thinking and organizing it.

Though, I have a tiny favor to ask, next time could it be a Saturday?

Thank god the drive back home was not like Cat Whisperer, glad you made home safe!

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/359 "2013-02-18T13:33:07Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I’m glad you guys all had a good time.
> 
> You’re a bunch of Canadians - I’m sure you’ve all done some winter driving and can empathize. We drove home from Prince Albert, Saskatchewan to Calgary, Alberta today - about half of the nine and a half hour trip was on roads that were covered in snow, blowing snow, ice, slush, etc. The worst part was passing the semis - they were blowing all kinds of slush out of their wheels, and passing them meant that for about ten seconds, we were driving completely blind in these conditions. “Nerve-wracking” doesn’t even start to describe it.
> 
> [Here’s a good example of what the highways looked like!](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/featherlou/Miscellaneous/securedownload_zps9739d047.jpeg)

Glad you’re home safe. A week ago I had a five hour trip take ten hours due to a winter storm, so you have my sympathy.

Seroius suggestion, though: don’t drive blind, even if it means not passing slow moving elephants. Life’s too short – particulary if it is lived out in ten seconds.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/360 "2013-02-18T15:37:43Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I’m glad you guys all had a good time.
> 
> You’re a bunch of Canadians - I’m sure you’ve all done some winter driving and can empathize. We drove home from Prince Albert, Saskatchewan to Calgary, Alberta today - about half of the nine and a half hour trip was on roads that were covered in snow, blowing snow, ice, slush, etc. The worst part was passing the semis - they were blowing all kinds of slush out of their wheels, and passing them meant that for about ten seconds, we were driving completely blind in these conditions. “Nerve-wracking” doesn’t even start to describe it.
> 
> [Here’s a good example of what the highways looked like!](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/featherlou/Miscellaneous/securedownload_zps9739d047.jpeg)

Can’t view the photo right now, but glad you made it. As someone who drives a lot you have my sympathies. I am very familiar with the blind passing, and as Muffin suggests just chill and hang back. That’s what I do now.

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