# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1061 "2013-05-06T02:16:53Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > We literally went from winter to summer here in Ottawa. It seems that we have here too, but I’ll still be careful. I’ve experienced a few mid-May snowfalls out here. Of course, if today’s weather keeps up, I may not feel well later this week. From past experience, I know that the only cure is golf. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1062 "2013-05-06T02:21:38Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > It seems that we have here too, but I’ll still be careful. I’ve experienced a few mid-May snowfalls out here. > > Of course, if today’s weather keeps up, I may not feel well later this week. From past experience, I know that the only cure is golf. 🙂 Ahhh… Spoons. My yearly 9 holes after work begins this Tuesday. It will be 25 and sunny! Fore! ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1063 "2013-05-06T02:24:23Z")
> [@antonio107](#): > > We always do, it seems! My grandma used to have Dutch neighbours, and every year during the Tulip Festival, they’d opine that Ottawa doesn’t have a “real” spring. I went from a long coat to a patio in about a 10 day span this year. And I love it. 🆒 So, join us for the Ottawa Dope Fest next weekend then. We don’t bite. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1064 "2013-05-06T02:38:17Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Ahhh… Spoons. My yearly 9 holes after work begins this Tuesday. It will be 25 and sunny! I’m thinking I should just store my clubs in the car. There’s a little par-3 that I pass by on the way home that would be perfect for after work. Thanks for the idea! ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1065 "2013-05-06T02:47:58Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > So, join us for the Ottawa Dope Fest next weekend then. We don’t bite. Going to the Mayflower again? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1066 "2013-05-06T02:48:49Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I’m thinking I should just store my clubs in the car. There’s a little par-3 that I pass by on the way home that would be perfect for after work. > > Thanks for the idea! My clubs live in my trunk all summer long. So, bringing your clubs east this summer? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1067 "2013-05-06T02:51:14Z")
> [@antonio107](#): > > Going to the Mayflower again? I dunno. Dow’s Lake pavilion sounds good. We haven’t decided. We may never decide at this rate… ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1068 "2013-05-06T02:59:58Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > My clubs live in my trunk all summer long. > > So, bringing your clubs east this summer? I did last year, and had a lot of fun on the courses I remembered from when I lived in Ontario. You just have to come a little west. I don’t get as far east as Ottawa. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1069 "2013-05-06T03:17:26Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I did last year, and had a lot of fun on the courses I remembered from when I lived in Ontario. > > You just have to come a little west. I don’t get as far east as Ottawa. 🙂 Could be arranged. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1070 "2013-05-06T03:27:25Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Could be arranged. Well, if you can get to the GTA, I’m sure we could arrange something. There’s a nice course I like about an hour or so northeast of Toronto. It was designed by the same guy who designed the Banff Springs course, so it works with the landscape, not in spite of it. And it’s got the most challenging par-3 hole I’ve even encountered. I plan to be in the GTA this summer, and hope to meet up with some Dopers ( **Le Ministre**? **RickJay**? **The Lurker Above**? **Sunspace**?) No definite dates yet, but I had a great time meeting these gentlemen last year (well, **Sunspace** had to bow out, but I have met him before.) Still, if you like, Leaffan, I will keep you in the loop as to my plans, and if you can manage a meetup, great! And even better if golf is involved. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1071 "2013-05-06T03:36:57Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Well, if you can get to the GTA, I’m sure we could arrange something. There’s a nice course I like about an hour or so northeast of Toronto. It was designed by the same guy who designed the Banff Springs course, so it works with the landscape, not in spite of it. And it’s got the most challenging par-3 hole I’ve even encountered. > > I plan to be in the GTA this summer, and hope to meet up with some Dopers ( **Le Ministre**? **RickJay**? **The Lurker Above**? **Sunspace**?) No definite dates yet, but I had a great time meeting these gentlemen last year (well, **Sunspace** had to bow out, but I have met him before.) Still, if you like, Leaffan, I will keep you in the loop as to my plans, and if you can manage a meetup, great! And even better if golf is involved. I suddenly find myself with more spare time. Well, every second weekend anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1072 "2013-05-06T03:53:02Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > I suddenly find myself with more spare time. Well, every second weekend anyway. Sounds good. I’ll keep you posted. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1073 "2013-05-06T22:42:47Z")
I thought some of you might be amused at this article - [Redditors to marketers: Stop telling us how to be Canadian.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/05/redditors-to-marketers-stop-telling-us-how-to-be-canadian.html) Speaking as someone who can’t abide Tim Horton’s coffee, and who is still boycotting the NHL indefinitely, this resonated with me… ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1074 "2013-05-06T23:45:52Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > I thought some of you might be amused at this article - [Redditors to marketers: Stop telling us how to be Canadian.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/05/redditors-to-marketers-stop-telling-us-how-to-be-canadian.html) > > Speaking as someone who can’t abide Tim Horton’s coffee, and who is still boycotting the NHL indefinitely, this resonated with me… It did with me too. Interesting article. I don’t hate Tim Horton’s coffee, nor do I dislike hockey. But I also don’t hunt specifically for a Tim’s, or watch every hockey game on TV. (Frankly, I think there is far too much hockey on TV.) And to insinuate that I am somehow not Canadian unless I do, irks me. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1075 "2013-05-07T01:50:47Z")
Why do you hate Canada? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1076 "2013-05-07T02:54:48Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > I thought some of you might be amused at this article - [Redditors to marketers: Stop telling us how to be Canadian.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/05/redditors-to-marketers-stop-telling-us-how-to-be-canadian.html) > > Speaking as someone who can’t abide Tim Horton’s coffee, and who is still boycotting the NHL indefinitely, this resonated with me… I tend to agree, we don’t need to be told how to be Canadian. On the other hand I’m willing to bet that these types of marketing strategies have paid off enormously for the likes of Tim Hortons, Molson, Canadian Tire, et al. We’ve always been a people searching for an identity and these companies have played on it after taking lessons from Bob and Doug. I saw a comedian recently who said “In Canada, our president works for a grocery store.” I laughed. (That might be more of an Ontario thing only. Not sure! (Loblaws)) ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1077 "2013-05-07T05:46:00Z")
> [@newcomer](#): > > Give me one source - TV or radio - that does similar program like any I listen on a regular basis BETTER? > > My regular CBC feast - Metro Morning, As It Happens, DNtO, The Q, Cross-country Checkup and on TV: The National, HNiC, 5th Estate, Rick Mercer Report. > > All I ask is what station and what program - comparable to what I listed - you think is better? Add Writers and Company, the Next Chapter and Randy Bachman’s Vinyl Tap..as well as Radio-Canada’s [Et Dieu Crea La Flaque](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_Dieu_cr%C3%A9a..._Laflaque) and [Toute le monde en parle](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tout_le_monde_en_parle_(Quebec)) and you have my favourites. My husband introduced me to the two French shows… I don’t always get all the jokes, but I understand enough, and it is both good for my French comprehension and good for cross-cultural feel good fuzzie wuzzies for me to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1078 "2013-05-07T05:48:47Z")
As for spring… ah… in Vancouver we moved past that this weekend into summer weather. We spent Sunday at the beach, and I got a good and proper sunburn despite my SPF 9000. Spring started sometime mid February. (ducks and runs from I think everyone except Dr Drake) ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1079 "2013-05-07T06:04:58Z")
> [@newcomer](#): > > Give me one source - TV or radio - that does similar program like any I listen on a regular basis BETTER? > > My regular CBC feast - Metro Morning, As It Happens, DNtO, The Q, Cross-country Checkup and on TV: The National, HNiC, 5th Estate, Rick Mercer Report. > > All I ask is what station and what program - comparable to what I listed - you think is better? What does ‘better’ have to do with it? If it is ‘better’, then they should have no problem flogging it to advertisers. If it is so odd or different that only a few people watch it, then perhaps it isn’t worth someone paying for ad time. It baffles me why you think taxes should pay the difference so you can watch/listen to your favorite show. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1080 "2013-05-07T08:26:08Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > What does ‘better’ have to do with it? If it is ‘better’, then they should have no problem flogging it to advertisers. It is my understanding that the CBC (at least, as far as radio goes) does not want to appeal to advertisers. It wants to operate without any obligations to advertisers. All very well and good, until one realizes that it takes tax money to support such a venture. The problem many Canadians have, is that CBC radio does not serve their needs, does not support their point-of-view, and does not reflect their experience. Yet they have to pay for it through tax dollars. Whether all of the above are true or not, I cannot say. But it seems to me that Canadians who do not like CBC radio programming are regarded by those who do like it as “rednecks,” and “luddites” and “uneducated mouth-breathing assholes”; and are otherwise to be disregarded as somehow “non-Canadian.” No. We are all Canadians, regardless of what we listen to, and we are all in this together. If we do not like CBC radio, then we must let our MPs know. If we do not like CBC _period_, then we must let our MPs know. Only our members of Parliament can debate and decide what the point-of-view that the CBC presents will be. 'Nuff said for now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=55)