# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1081 "2013-05-07T11:01:19Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > It is my understanding that the CBC (at least, as far as radio goes) does not want to appeal to advertisers. It wants to operate without any obligations to advertisers. And I want a pony.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1082 "2013-05-07T14:49:22Z")
> [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](#): > > As for spring.. ah.. in Vancouver we moved past that this weekend into summer weather. We spent Sunday at the beach, and I got a good and proper sunburn despite my SPF 9000. I got my first sunburn of the year looking at cherry blossoms in High Park in Toronto. It was just me, my wife, and a zillion other people. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1083 "2013-05-07T17:10:40Z")
As I continue to read the book I mentioned earlier, I’m wondering something - is there still a perception in Eastern Canada that the original provinces bought the West, and as such you still own us (or should still own us)? Somebody in the Canadope thread said something to that effect within the last year or so - is this still a thing in Eastern Canada? ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1084 "2013-05-07T17:14:13Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > And I want a pony.🙂 It’s premised on a public service model that seems to have been eroded, the more American we become. From what I’ve been told, the BBC radio is still revered in England, and people for the most part dutifully pay their TV licenses still. The more Canadians bitch about not having Hulu and spotify, the more it seems they want to move to a purely private model. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1085 "2013-05-07T18:31:29Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I plan to be in the GTA this summer, and hope to meet up with some Dopers ( **Le Ministre**? **RickJay**? **The Lurker Above**? **Sunspace**?) No definite dates yet, but I had a great time meeting these gentlemen last year (well, **Sunspace** had to bow out, but I have met him before.) Still, if you like, Leaffan, I will keep you in the loop as to my plans, and if you can manage a meetup, great! And even better if golf is involved. If sill in the area I’ll come out for a dopefest. And I’m sure I have a set of clubs hiding_somewhere_. My job-hunt is starting to focus out west though. Plus a lot of my family is now split between BC/Alberta so my ties to Ontario are getting pretty loose. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1086 "2013-05-07T18:47:55Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > As I continue to read the book I mentioned earlier, I’m wondering something - is there still a perception in Eastern Canada that the original provinces bought the West, and as such you still own us (or should still own us)? Somebody in the Canadope thread said something to that effect within the last year or so - is this still a thing in Eastern Canada? Huh? No. 😃 Strange thing to ask. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1087 "2013-05-07T18:53:35Z")
> [@antonio107](#): > > It’s premised on a public service model that seems to have been eroded, the more American we become. From what I’ve been told, the BBC radio is still revered in England, and people for the most part dutifully pay their TV licenses still. The more Canadians bitch about not having Hulu and spotify, the more it seems they want to move to a purely private model. The problem is that in this particular area the public service model is premised on a state of telecommunications that is simply obsolete. Put it this way - it makes more sense for the government to run a TV station where there are only three channels available, then when there are 500 - or increasingly people simply ordering up whatever programs they want “on demand”, and not bothering with particular stations at all. This has nothing to do with us Canadians abandoning our distinctive Canadian-ness to join the Yanks, it is simply a function of the tech. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1088 "2013-05-07T18:59:27Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I’m wondering something - is there still a perception in Eastern Canada that the original provinces bought the West, and as such you still own us (or should still own us)? Somebody in the Canadope thread said something to that effect within the last year or so - is this still a thing in Eastern Canada? This is the first time I have ever heard of such a thing. Conspiracy theory nuttiness. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1089 "2013-05-07T19:08:14Z")
Never heard of that at all - I can only speak for Southern/Eastern Ontario and Montreal areas. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1090 "2013-05-07T20:31:32Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > [..] is there still a perception in Eastern Canada that the original provinces bought the West, and as such you still own us (or should still own us)? Somebody in the Canadope thread said something to that effect within the last year or so [..] Do you have a link to this post? I’d like to see it for myself! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1091 "2013-05-07T21:09:29Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > Do you have a link to this post? I’d like to see it for myself! I was just looking for it - danged middle-aged memory. It was sometime in the last two years, I’d say, and it made my eyes bug out when I saw it - it had never occurred to me that there were modern Canadians with that attitude. I have to go out now, but I’ll search more later. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1092 "2013-05-07T22:58:36Z")
In completely different news, set your calendar to watch [the NLL Championship Game this Saturday!](http://www.langleytimes.com/sports/206318851.html) The game can be watched on the CBS Sports Network. The game starts at 4:00 pm BC time. Although there are no Canadian teams still in the playoff (after Calgary’s extremely close and hard-fought loss last weekend), there are still tons of Canadians playing, since we make up most of the NLL players. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1093 "2013-05-07T23:18:45Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > In completely different news, set your calendar to watch [the NLL Championship Game this Saturday!](http://www.langleytimes.com/sports/206318851.html) The game can be watched on the CBS Sports Network. The game starts at 4:00 pm BC time. Although there are no Canadian teams still in the playoff (after Calgary’s extremely close and hard-fought loss last weekend), there are still tons of Canadians playing, since we make up most of the NLL players. 🙂 As Cat Whisperer was writing this post, out of curiosity I had a scan through the rosters of the Washington Stealth and Rochester Knighthawks and I found only four Americans among them out of 46 players, so the indoor game is unequivocally dominated by Canadians. And those Canadians are almost exclusively from either Ontario or BC; there’s only one Albertan and one Québecois between the two teams. There are also four First Nations players represented in the game, including Cody Jamieson, who led the Knighthawks in scoring for the second straight year. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1094 "2013-05-07T23:27:59Z")
Heh - going back through the threads, I found [this post from **Northern Piper**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15684746&postcount=2092) - > [@](#): > > 36 hours and counting of fluffy snow in Regina. I hope the reminder that they’ve had snow for seven months now doesn’t push him over the edge. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1095 "2013-05-08T00:17:13Z")
[[twitch, twitch]] ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1096 "2013-05-08T00:42:57Z")
I just checked the Weather Network… they said that it was warm and sunny in Regina. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1097 "2013-05-08T01:21:19Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > [[twitch, twitch]] 30 c 86 f for Monday for you, unless the snow we’re due to get Saturday moves west. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1098 "2013-05-08T01:26:00Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > Do you have a link to this post? I’d like to see it for myself! Okay, I found it - [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15340306&postcount=1443) > [@](#): > > The biggest blunder that Canada,(Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick) ever made was to give Albertans provincial status and rights to to the resources of Alberta just 37 years after buying a good portion of Alberta from the Hudsons Bay Company for 27 million dollars. Alberta can expect to receive over a trillion dollars in royalties from oil. Followed up with [this -](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15346507&postcount=1459) > [@](#): > > \Provincial usurpation of crown land is a done deal albeit a stupid one for the vast majority of Canadians. The rest of us would have liked to avoid sales tax and basic medical insurance premiums too.\ Doing some research, I see that Alberta was given control of its own resources in 1929, like the other provinces; the oil in Alberta was discovered in 1947. I guess the better question is, is there still a perception in provinces outside of Alberta that Alberta’s resources should belong to all of Canada, not Alberta (in spite of all the provinces owning their own resources)? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1099 "2013-05-08T02:05:18Z")
Not a large one. I would imagine if you asked any person in Canada if all provinces should have equal powers you’d get a large majority saying “Yes.”. If you also asked them if Canadian resources should benefit all Canadians they would also say yes. So you can see where **FlyingDutchman** ’s weird desire to go back a 100 years and disenfranchise western provinces _could possibly_ come from. If you were generous you could call it a fringe view I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1100 "2013-05-08T02:06:38Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > The problem is that in this particular area the public service model is premised on a state of telecommunications that is simply obsolete. Honestly, not really. The BBC is still clearly a big benefit to the UK, and for that matter, PBS does quality-before-entertainment stuff, notably in kids’ programming and in news coverage, that private stations do not. The real problem with the CBC is that they just aren’t much different from a private station. I gather that their radio programming is much better (and the little I listen to confirms that), so maybe the one part is more worth defending than the other. ETA: **Cat Whisperer** , that’s the first I’ve heard of that attitude, either. Honestly, West-East relations are a classical case of an uneven relationship: since the East is so much bigger than the West (and contains the capital), the West pays a lot more attention to the East than vice versa. That means the West notices every slight, whereas the East wonders why there’s so much resentment, since, after all, the East doesn’t very often notice or care about the West. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=56)