# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1361 "2013-06-18T16:48:32Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Understand, **Northern Piper** , I am not discounting your theory, but I’m left wondering: after three centuries of non-French rule (of which were 146 years of Canadian rule), how can Quebec politicians not get it?
> 
> We’re not someplace where _baksheesh_ rules, or where “greasing a palm” makes things happen. I’m not entirely sure that I agree with the “well, they’re French,” attitude. Quebec has been a part of Confederation long enough to know that our system of government doesn’t put up with that.
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> How can the Quebec citizenry put up with such things?

Probably the same way Calgarians put up with the corruption of our previous mayor, Bronco Dave Bronconnier who got out just before all his scandals hit the fan, or the way Torontonians put up with Mayor Rob Ford, or the way Albertans put up with the provincial Conservative Machine here. Some of us know that things are wrong, but the majority doesn’t seem to get it, and our one vote doesn’t make a difference then.

> [@Malthus](#):
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> I think it is extremely unlikely the Supremes will hear it. \<snip\>

Plus, I don’t even think they’re together any longer. 😃

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1362 "2013-06-18T17:52:52Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Plus, I don’t even think they’re together any longer. 😃

😃

I didn’t know you felt _that_ badly about the departure of Justice Deschamps … 😉

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1363 "2013-06-19T04:15:21Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> 😃
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> I didn’t know you felt _that_ badly about the departure of Justice Deschamps … 😉

I was crushed. 🙂

Hey, I just saw an interesting story - [Saskatoon tops list for good place to look for work in Canada.](http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/looking-job-canada-try-saskatoon-145001048.html) Saskaboom indeed!

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1364 "2013-06-19T04:46:45Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Hey, I just saw an interesting story - [Saskatoon tops list for good place to look for work in Canada.](http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/looking-job-canada-try-saskatoon-145001048.html) Saskaboom indeed!

Maybe I _am_ in the wrong place…

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1365 "2013-06-19T05:10:01Z")

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You need to come west, **Sunspace**. If nothing else, it will give us an excuse for a western Dopefest. I’d even travel to Saskatoon for it. 🙂

Great to see you in the Montreal Dopefest photos, by the way!

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1366 "2013-06-19T05:15:03Z")

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I’d travel to Saskatoon for a Dopefest too!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1367 "2013-06-19T05:15:32Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> I think it is extremely unlikely the Supremes will hear it. Not of sufficient national importance, too fact specific, etc.

Sure, it’s fact specific, but municipal corruption is very much in the news right now - maybe they’ll think it’s important to address this aspect of it.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1368 "2013-06-19T12:46:31Z")

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I heard that there are some ex- and soon to be ex-mayors from Ontario and Quebec who are planning to move to Saskaboom to be elected to office there.

_[Ducks and runs]_

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1369 "2013-06-19T13:15:59Z")

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I’ve been to Saskatoon. It’s a charming little town.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1370 "2013-06-19T13:39:53Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Sure, it’s fact specific, but municipal corruption is very much in the news right now - maybe they’ll think it’s important to address this aspect of it.

Perhaps, it certainly is a topical topic, but this case isn’t the best to address it.

My impression from an admittedly superficial understanding of the case was that the violation by the mayor (in this particular instance) was relatively minor, and did not involve his personal benefit - but rather, the propriety of accepting money on behalf of his favorite charity. The issue was that, the way the municipal act was framed, any violation, however minor, leads to him being turfed - in this case, the violation being him voting on the measure as to whether he should personally pay the money back.

Given that the court would, if it chose to hear the case, be hearing it most likely after the next mayoral election, and that the ruling was based on pretty precice findings of fact (that the counsel never had the authority to order him to repay the cash in the first place), seems to me not to be the sort of case best suited to review.

We will know on thursday …

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1371 "2013-06-19T18:16:56Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> A couple of questions:
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> (A) Is Paul Hellyer still alive? If so, how old is he?
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> (B) If he is as old as I think he is, does his word still carry any weight? Or is he a retired, doddering old man, whose opinions can be dismissed as those of a retired, doddering old man?

Hellyer is almost 90 and has been a crank for decades. He’s long been a UFO believer, which is one thing, but now the poor man is clearly not entirely in command of his faculties.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1372 "2013-06-20T00:30:06Z")

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[Calgary Mayor Naheed Nenshi tours Ontario.](http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2013/06/19/nenshi-ontario-tour-2013-how-ottawa-reacted-with-tongues-wagging/) Maybe some of you guys can go see him speak (and make jokes about his coke habit - diet coke, that is 😃 ).

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1373 "2013-06-20T00:44:13Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> [Calgary Mayor Naheed Nenshi tours Ontario.](http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2013/06/19/nenshi-ontario-tour-2013-how-ottawa-reacted-with-tongues-wagging/) Maybe some of you guys can go see him speak (and make jokes about his coke habit - diet coke, that is 😃 ).

With Mayor Watson I see.

Watson’s a pretty decent fellow. We are accruing a lot of debt in the city of Ottawa since he was elected, but on the other hand the interest on the debt is locked in at historical low levels, so I kind of have mixed emotions about it. That and Watson is a Liberal, but I won’t hold that against him: yet. 😉

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1374 "2013-06-20T02:49:39Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> [Calgary Mayor Naheed Nenshi tours Ontario.](http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2013/06/19/nenshi-ontario-tour-2013-how-ottawa-reacted-with-tongues-wagging/)…

Now you’re just taunting us. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1375 "2013-06-20T03:36:49Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> Now you’re just taunting us. 🙂

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries. 😛

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1376 "2013-06-20T03:53:54Z")

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No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1377 "2013-06-20T04:13:46Z")

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Oops, too late - go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person!

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1378 "2013-06-20T04:29:57Z")

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Don’t blame me when Diamond Jim Watson screws up. I voted for Mister Clean. TWICE.

Then for whatever reason I added him on Facebook, and dear Lord is that some kinda tinfoil hat show.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1379 "2013-06-20T04:48:36Z")

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> [@antonio107](#):
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> Don’t blame me when Diamond Jim Watson screws up. I voted for Mister Clean. TWICE.
> 
> Then for whatever reason I added him on Facebook, and dear Lord is that some kinda tinfoil hat show.

I voted for Larry both times also. The tinfoil hat comment intrigues me…

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1380 "2013-06-20T11:30:11Z")

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Feels like a major thunderstorm brewing here: it’s normally daylight by this time, but it’s very dark out, thunder rumbling, and I need a light on inside.

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