# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1481 "2013-06-22T14:36:46Z")
I have two friends in Alberta, each of whom is offering to put up anyone who needs it. Good people. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1482 "2013-06-22T15:24:42Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Gotta love that s.40. I wonder if there will be an up-tick in jump-the-line appeals to the SCC once the OPCA/Freemen-on-the-Land types suss onto it. Sorry, I’m not following your point, **Muffin**? ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1483 "2013-06-22T16:13:55Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > It really ticks me off to see some people in newspaper comments and on Facebook trying to score political points over the Alberta floods. Fuck all that shit, pardon my language - friends are in need of help; help out!! > > Right now I’m trying to help out by donating to the Red Cross Alberta Floods fund - if there are other, more useful things I can do to help, someone please let me know. I’m too far away to take people in - further on up the road, we can see what tangibles people need. > > Stay dry, stay safe, friends! Agreed that this is the wrong time for people playing politics. As for other, more useful things, you might want to jump a plane to Calgary and bring a bucket. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1484 "2013-06-22T16:17:07Z")
Have the rains let up in Alberta? It’s a nice sunny day here in Regina - hope it’s the same for you. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1485 "2013-06-22T16:19:16Z")
I haven’t seen any political-bashing over the Alberta floods. Though maybe it’s because I tend to enjoy staying out of comments sections. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1486 "2013-06-22T16:31:08Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > \ > Folks who are flooded have little choice: restore as soon as possible, sell immediately and take a huge loss, or do nothing and take a huge loss. \ We’re thinking about moving in the next couple of years, and I’ve made a note of all the evacuated areas and crossed them off of my city map. > [@EmilyG](#): > > Thanks for explaining. 🙂 I was trying to explain how living in a rich province doesn’t mean everyone is rich, and it kept coming out more snarky than I intended. 🙂 > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > \ > Stay dry, stay safe, friends! I’m going to try to stay dry today - after wading in the water yesterday, it took the rest of the day to warm my feet up again! 😃 > [@EmilyG](#): > > I have two friends in Alberta, each of whom is offering to put up anyone who needs it. Good people. 🙂 I was looking for volunteer opportunities online, and it was listing after listing of people offering to put other people up. So far we’re having a nice sunny day. Hopefully the rains are over. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1487 "2013-06-22T16:46:54Z")
Just watching the news and seeing stories of people stocking up on all the bottled water they can find and not sure what they’re going to drink since the bottled water is all gone - we don’t have a boil water advisory, have never had a boil water advisory, and are not likely to have a boil water advisory. Ai yi yi. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1488 "2013-06-22T17:23:33Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Just watching the news and seeing stories of people stocking up on all the bottled water they can find and not sure what they’re going to drink since the bottled water is all gone - we don’t have a boil water advisory, have never had a boil water advisory, and are not likely to have a boil water advisory. Ai yi yi. Crazy people, huh? If we didn’t already have some in the basement my Mom would be one of them. At one point yesterday someone was tweeting there was an advisory and had dug up an old one from sometime in 2012 tweeting it as if it were current. I only realized what happened was between me going to the AHS site and refreshing the page AHS had updated with a statement saying this was an old warning, go this link its a current statement and the current statement said there was no advisory. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1489 "2013-06-22T17:54:09Z")
We’re just watching the press conference with Mayor Nenshi, councillors, et al, and once again they have said no boil water advisory, but they have now put a water use restriction in place - no watering outside, no washing cars, limit running dishwashers and washing machines, short showers, etc. As Mayor Nenshi said, if you think you need to water your lawn today, we need to have a conversation. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1490 "2013-06-22T18:09:36Z")
[I just love this picture -](http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/archives/sunnews/canada/media/2013/06/20130620-204326-g.jpg)a fire fighter rescuing an old lady in High River. [This one’s less chipper](http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1335988!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg) (fire fighter taking a break). ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1491 "2013-06-22T18:23:49Z")
News story about the [damage to the Saddledome](http://www.stadiumjourney.com/news/06-22-2013/391/disastrous-floods-hit-calgary), situated right next to the Elbow River on the Stampede Grounds. ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1492 "2013-06-22T19:14:58Z")
I was at my book club Thursday night, and one of my friends moved from Calgary to Vancouver two years ago. She was texting through the book club. Apparently the house that floated down river belonged to her friend’s neighbour. She’s a real estate agent. She knows Calgary really well. She ended up leaving early, she was too upset. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1493 "2013-06-22T20:59:31Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Sorry, I’m not following your point, **Muffin**? That’s probably because I specified s. 40 rather than s. 38. :smack: (As Agent [del]99[/del] 86 used to say, “Sorry about that, Chief.”) Section 38 of the Supreme Court Act lets one apply for leave to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada from a Superior Court judge’s decision (but not a deputy judge’s decision), without having to first have the appeal heard by the Divisional Court (if a province has such a beast) and/or the Court of Appeal. That’s how the Ford matter went for leave to appeal to the SCC after the Divisional Court decision without going through the Ontario Court of Appeal. I doubt if many folks know about this option in the appeal route procedure. I expect that if it became widely known through Freemen on the Land circles (the nutters who bung up the courts with their own special brand of crazy when it comes to court procedure and interpretation of laws), or by off-kilter folks who represent themselves against all odds and want to appeal to the President of the United States, the U.N. High Commissioner, and God on High, there would be more jump-the-appeal-process-line type applications under s. 38 to the Supreme Court of Canada that there are now. [Supreme Court Act, s. 38](http://canlii.ca/t/j02b#sec38) > [@](#): > > Appeals per saltum > > 1. Subject to sections 39 and 42, an appeal to the Supreme Court lies on a question of law alone with leave of that Court, from a final judgment of the Federal Court or of a court of a province other than the highest court of final resort therein, the judges of which are appointed by the Governor General, pronounced in a judicial proceeding where an appeal lies to the Federal Court of Appeal or to that highest court of final resort, if the consent in writing of the parties or their solicitors, verified by affidavit, is filed with the Registrar of the Supreme Court and with the registrar, clerk or prothonotary of the court from which the appeal is to be taken. > > R.S., 1985, c. S-26, s. 38; > 1990, c. 8, s. 35; > 2002, c. 8, s. 183. > > Exceptions > > 1. No appeal to the Court lies under section 37, 37.1 or 38 from a judgment in a criminal cause, in proceedings for or on > > (a) a writ of habeas corpus, certiorari or prohibition arising out of a criminal charge; or > (b) a writ of habeas corpus arising out of a claim for extradition made under a treaty. > R.S., 1985, c. S-26, s. 39; > 1990, c. 8, s. 36. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1494 "2013-06-22T21:06:17Z")
All that would stand in the way would be getting the opposing party’s consent. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1495 "2013-06-22T21:13:28Z")
I quite enjoyed [this video](http://vimeo.com/68900124) of the Calgary flood because of the photographer’s determination to be positive about rebuilding the city. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1496 "2013-06-22T21:23:33Z")
Hmmm, think I found where I went astray between s. 38 and s. 40. Instead of getting Ford’s consent for the SCC appeal, Magder went by way of s.40, based on the Divisional Court order being final. Still jumping out of the line (or past the end of the line), but a different route. Ontario Municipal Board Act, s. 96 (4) (a): > [@](#): > > Decisions of Board to be final > > (4) Save as provided in this section and in section 43, > > (a) every decision or order of the Board is final; and > > (b) no order, decision or proceeding of the Board shall be questioned or reviewed, restrained or removed by prohibition, injunction, certiorari or any other process or proceeding in any court. R.S.O. 1990, c. O.28, s. 96 (4); 2009, c. 33, Sched. 2, s. 54 (4). ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1497 "2013-06-22T21:36:14Z")
Great story and photos here about how a High River man and his cat escaped their sinking truck and swam to safety: [Swimming sensation Momo the cat escapes Alberta flood](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2013/06/21/alberta-flood-cat-momo-swim-photos.html). ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1498 "2013-06-23T00:40:28Z")
key line from the article: > [@](#): > > “He couldn’t get out, so he had to smash out the back window with his elbow and, of course, the cat was trying to beat him out,” she said. cat loyalty… ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1499 "2013-06-23T00:50:16Z")
The cat had to show him how to get out the small opening, and then had to tow him to shore with it’s tail. That’s exceptionally loyal considering the fellow put the cat in danger of drowning in the truck in the first place rather than simply letting the cat drive to safety. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1500 "2013-06-23T01:22:08Z")
I like how they call the cat a “swimming sensation,” like she’s Michael Phelps or something. 😛 Glad to hear the cat and her owner are safe. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=76)