# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1501 "2013-06-23T01:56:37Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> key line from the article:
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> cat loyalty…

And the last picture where she’s struggling instead of letting them wrap her up snuggly and warm - “DON’T TOUCH ME! I’LL CUT YOU!” Typical cat. 🙂

The Calgary Stampede’s response to if the show will go on two weeks from now - [Hell or high water.](https://twitter.com/Mookalicious/status/348556715161186304/photo/1/large) 😃

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1502 "2013-06-23T01:58:36Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Hmmm, think I found where I went astray between s. 38 and s. 40. Instead of getting Ford’s consent for the SCC appeal, Magder went by way of s.40, based on the Divisional Court order being final. Still jumping out of the line (or past the end of the line), but a different route.

But s. 40 is how almost all cases go to the SCC, except indictable criminal ones. The Divisional Court was the final court, so it was the “highest court of final resort” in Ontario.

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> **40.** (1) Subject to subsection (3), an appeal lies to the Supreme Court from any final or other judgment of the Federal Court of Appeal or of the highest court of final resort in a province, or a judge thereof, in which judgment can be had in the particular case sought to be appealed to the Supreme Court, whether or not leave to appeal to the Supreme Court has been refused by any other court, where, with respect to the particular case sought to be appealed, the Supreme Court is of the opinion that any question involved therein is, by reason of its public importance or the importance of any issue of law or any issue of mixed law and fact involved in that question, one that ought to be decided by the Supreme Court or is, for any other reason, of such a nature or significance as to warrant decision by it, and leave to appeal from that judgment is accordingly granted by the Supreme Court.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1503 "2013-06-23T02:27:09Z")

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Thus I should have cited s.38 and not associated Ford with it.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1504 "2013-06-23T04:35:38Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> And the last picture where she’s struggling instead of letting them wrap her up snuggly and warm - “DON’T TOUCH ME! I’LL CUT YOU!” Typical cat. 🙂

In fairness, the cat probably wasn’t thinking “snuggly and warm”; it was probably thinking, “let me shake this water out of my fur and groom myself so I can look good for the camera.” Let’s face it, we’re dealing with a cat, which species typically never likes to look wet and bedraggled. I have no doubt that, were any of my cats (friendly and polite as they are) in a similar situation, they would react the same way.

FWIW, here in Lethbridge, there is no fear now. I was at Safeway today, and there were no shortages on bottled water; and we had fresh produce and meat available, with no lineups at the checkout. The river valley parks are open again, though some areas of them remain closed.

Still, I understand that Medicine Hat is preparing for the river surge. My thoughts go out to those in High River, Canmore, Calgary, and Medicine Hat. Stay safe, all!

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**Author:** ![EmAnJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@EmAnJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmAnJ)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1505 "2013-06-23T04:54:34Z")

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I ended up responding to a Facebook post of a friend about a number of seniors stranded in low income complexes in the East Village. I parked my vehicle at the top of Center Street and rode in through the least water logged streets. I was the first and only one there for about two hours. The building I focused on first was 16 stories and not even the emergency lights were on. No electricity for 24 hours at that point, and many were low on food and supplies. CFD (Calgary Fire Dept) showed up a short while after I got there and we went through the building doing wellness checks. Many of them would not leave because they had cats, so I arranged for Alberta Animal Rescue Crew Society to send someone down to help (we are a foster home and I am friends with the president and vice president). Despite a mandatory evacuation, some still refused to leave and are still there tonight. Looters hit last night but were scared away, however the vast majority of the seniors have no working phones nor cell phones. No one was able to call the police about the break in last night.

A couple of friends arrived around 3:30 and we continued to help everyone out of the building. Around 5 the building next door came and asked if we would take birds, so we worked to arrange transport for them as well as any other cats. When I left at 9:30 this evening they were still working to evacuate the second building.

I ran in to Bruce Burrell while on my way there (he’s the fire chief and head of emergency response) and the impression I got is that it is a bit of chaos for the emergency crews still. Nothing is being done in a really organized manner and no one knows what’s going on. Luckily, the fire crew that showed up this afternoon were a bunch of guys that I already knew (my husband is a FF) so I sort of had an inside track to what was really going on. Unfortunately, they also weren’t being told what was going on either. It took all day and the involvement of the media to arrange for buses to come get folks. We actually had to have a media contact bring up this situation in one of the media sessions this afternoon to get fire trucks and buses there.

Anyway, I have to say, riding through downtown was SO surreal. I rode up Center Street this evening on my bike, right in the middle of the road. No traffic. Rode the wrong way down 9th Ave too. Crazy.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1506 "2013-06-23T05:12:08Z")

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The flood threat will have spanned three provinces before it’s over.

[**The Pas**](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2013/06/21/mb-flood-warning-thepas-saskatchewan-river.html), 630 kilometres north of Winnipeg, and 920 kilometres from Calgary by air, has been told of flooding potential.

A June 21 CBC story:

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> The Manitoba government has issued a flood warning for the Saskatchewan River near The Pas, amid concerns that flood waters from Alberta are flowing east.
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> The province’s Hydrologic Forecast Centre predicts river levels near The Pas will approach levels similar to those from 2011, with the crest potentially arriving there in about 10 to 14 days.
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> \<snip\>
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> The waters will move into Manitoba through the Saskatchewan River and the Cumberland Marsh, passing through The Pas and eventually flowing into Lake Winnipeg.
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> The Saskatchewan Water Security Agency is releasing water from the Lake Diefenbaker and Tobin reservoirs in order to make room for the Alberta flood waters, according to the Manitoba government.

> [@EmAnJ](#):
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> Rode the wrong way down 9th Ave too.

Always the rebel!

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1507 "2013-06-23T06:51:48Z")

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> [@EmAnJ](#):
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> I rode up Center Street this evening on my bike, right in the middle of the road. No traffic. Rode the wrong way down 9th Ave too. Crazy.

Shine on, you crazy diamond. 🙂

> [@Kenm](#):
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> The flood threat will have spanned three provinces before it’s over.
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> [**The Pas**](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2013/06/21/mb-flood-warning-thepas-saskatchewan-river.html), 630 kilometres north of Winnipeg, and 920 kilometres from Calgary by air, has been told of flooding potential.

Not surprised and I hope that all downstream communities in Saskatchewan and Manitoba are okay, in the wake (sorry!) of this storm surge.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1508 "2013-06-23T12:16:19Z")

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[Six good things](http://mikesbloggityblog.com/photos-six-good-things-to-come-out-of-the-calgary-floods/) to come out of the Calgary floods. I, too, love the photo of the firefighter with the senior lady in his arms…

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1509 "2013-06-23T14:35:20Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> [Six good things](http://mikesbloggityblog.com/photos-six-good-things-to-come-out-of-the-calgary-floods/) to come out of the Calgary floods. I, too, love the photo of the firefighter with the senior lady in his arms…

Thanks for the link. 😃

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1510 "2013-06-23T23:45:48Z")

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Well, we just donated to the Red Cross, too. I feel like I should go to the areas where people have been allowed back in with shovels and a bucket tomorrow and just start helping people shovel the mud out. I can’t take any pets in because we have an unfriendly cat, I think everyone’s been put up already, but I can definitely help clean up!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1511 "2013-06-24T00:10:38Z")

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[More information on the Nanton fire fighter -](http://www.highrivertimes.com/2013/06/23/nanton-firefighter-internet-sensation)his name is Shawn Wiebe, and he has a twin brother who is also a fire fighter. Ladies, is it just my imagination, or is he kind of extremely hot?

I also like what the old lady said to make him laugh like that - “I haven’t been carried like this since my wedding day.” 😃

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**Author:** ![EmAnJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@EmAnJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmAnJ)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1512 "2013-06-24T00:16:38Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> [More information on the Nanton fire fighter -](http://www.highrivertimes.com/2013/06/23/nanton-firefighter-internet-sensation)his name is Shawn Wiebe, and he has a twin brother who is also a fire fighter. Ladies, is it just my imagination, or is he kind of extremely hot?
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> I also like what the old lady said to make him laugh like that - “I haven’t been carried like this since my wedding day.” 😃

He’ll be paying media tax for years to come. (Fire Departments around here charge ‘media tax’ in the form of sugary deliciousness for those caught by the camera)

Cat, if you are looking to volunteer, check out [YYC Helps](http://yychelps.ca/). You can find links to what organizations are looking for help and you can submit your name to the list of available people. You can indicate what you’re able to do.

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**Author:** ![EmAnJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@EmAnJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmAnJ)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1513 "2013-06-24T00:18:38Z")

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If you are on Facebook, there is a [Calgary Clean Up](https://www.facebook.com/events/548675025188171/?fref=ts) group organizing clean up efforts.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1514 "2013-06-24T01:06:44Z")

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> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#):
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> Holy shitballs, that’s a lot of water!
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> **Cat Whisperer** is out and about taking pictures of the spectacle right now and tells me that a significant portion of the Sunnyside neighbourhood (just to the north of the downtown core) is under water.
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> Meanwhile, it is pissing down rain here at the U of C. Stupid weather!

I evacuated the north side of Sunnyside on Friday morning, and came back to an immediate neighbourhood that appears unscathed. Didn’t even lose power. It was eerily normal, actually.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1515 "2013-06-24T03:09:36Z")

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Watching the update on CTV tonight, and all I have to say is, Sandie Rinaldo is 63? Wowzers!

Ya. Sounds sexist but really, she looks absolutely fantastic for a 63 year old.

I need to find another partner apparently.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1516 "2013-06-24T03:25:55Z")

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It’s because you’re getting old too.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1517 "2013-06-24T04:15:09Z")

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Was shopping at Sobeys and they have a new policy: “Round up to help Calgary.” Anyone who want to can tell the cashier to round up their purchase to the nearest dollar, proceeds to go to Calgary flood relief.

Simple and easy way to raise money - very small amounts from large numbers of people all over Canada.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1518 "2013-06-24T04:26:36Z")

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We went and had a look (from a safe distance) tonight - the waters are definitely receding. Jim and I were talking about what the city will do to prevent further disasters like this, and we couldn’t come to any consensus - was this a once in a century thing, or are we going to see more floods like this as climate change screws with everything? Can we have a disaster like this and _not_ try to prepare for another one like it? I’m glad there will be better minds than ours making those decisions!

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1519 "2013-06-24T04:42:06Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> We went and had a look (from a safe distance) tonight - the waters are definitely receding. Jim and I were talking about what the city will do to prevent further disasters like this, and we couldn’t come to any consensus - was this a once in a century thing, or are we going to see more floods like this as climate change screws with everything? Can we have a disaster like this and _not_ try to prepare for another one like it? I’m glad there will be better minds than ours making those decisions!

That’s a great question. I’m sure something will be done, but what?

I can tell you that after the Fukushima earthquake and tsunami that eventually swamped the back-up diesel generators, the entire nuclear landscape has changed. Billions of dollars are being spent worldwide to address the question: “What is the worst case scenario that you could be exposed to?”

I know hundreds of millions have gone into my facility to buy new equipment and plan for the absolute worst possible set of conflicting catastrophic events, just like what nailed Fukushima.

Anyway, good luck with the clean up and it will be interesting to hear what mitigating disaster plans can be put in place: possibly to never be used at all, like our multimillion dollar upgrades and mobile generators.  
Why is it I can never sleep on Sunday bloody night? I think I might go get another beer.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1520 "2013-06-24T05:09:53Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> That’s a great question. I’m sure something will be done, but what?
> 
> I can tell you that after the Fukushima earthquake and tsunami that eventually swamped the back-up diesel generators, the entire nuclear landscape has changed. Billions of dollars are being spent worldwide to address the question: “What is the worst case scenario that you could be exposed to?”
> 
> I know hundreds of millions have gone into my facility to buy new equipment and plan for the absolute worst possible set of conflicting catastrophic events, just like what nailed Fukushima.

I think that’s great news, that nuclear plants are planning for the worst they can think of. I was afraid that the reactionaries and Chicken Littles would use Fukushima as an excuse to scuttle nuclear power altogether.

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> Anyway, good luck with the clean up and it will be interesting to hear what mitigating disaster plans can be put in place: possibly to never be used at all, like our multimillion dollar upgrades and mobile generators.

I am very curious to see what decisions get made. Hopefully they will be good ones, not “made by committee trying to please everyone” ones.

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> Why is it I can never sleep on Sunday bloody night? I think I might go get another beer.

You’d do better with warm milk - apparently it actually does work to help you fall asleep!

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