# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1681 "2013-07-09T06:01:05Z")
Marine Rescue had to get people out of that stranded GO train. I’m pretty sure that’s a first. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1682 "2013-07-09T06:02:34Z")
If this sort of thing is going to become regular, we’re gonna need storm drains the size of subway tunnels. Or to put all the buildings on stilts. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1683 "2013-07-09T06:17:08Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Marine Rescue had to get people out of that stranded GO train. I’m pretty sure that’s a first. It likely is. And now you’ve got me wondering–who or what is Toronto’s Marine Rescue unit organized under–Toronto Police, Toronto FD, or some other agency? I was surprised, when on vacation to Calgary years ago, to find that the Calgary fire department had a marine unit. In the summer, people like to raft or ride inner tubes down the Bow River, and Calgary FD (Marine) is there to keep them safe. So (because I’m curious) my question, **Sunspace** , or other knowledgeable Toronto Dopers, is this: who looks after marine rescue in Toronto? ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1684 "2013-07-09T06:32:53Z")
It’s part of the police: [http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/marine/](http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/marine/) > [@](#): > > The unit has a unique responsibility; it is the largest command, encompassing approximately 460 square miles of open water on Lake Ontario. The operational jurisdiction is from the Etobicoke creek (Peel Region) to Rouge River (Durham Region) and extending 13 nautical miles to the US/Canada border. Marine Unit is also responsible for all waterways within Toronto. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1685 "2013-07-09T06:55:58Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > It’s part of the police: > [http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/marine/](http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/marine/) Thanks, **Sunspace**! Appreciate the info! ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1686 "2013-07-09T07:06:03Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > An elevated highway flooded because it just can’t drain away fast enough? If you’re referring to that online Star picture of the alleged Gardiner Expressway, no, the caption was wrong. The picture was of the road beneath it. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1687 "2013-07-09T07:08:26Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > If you’re referring to that online Star picture of the alleged Gardiner Expressway, no, the caption was wrong. The picture was of the road beneath it. No, I recognized the Lakeshore well enough. There was another picture of the Gardiner itself with enough water on it to have significant waves. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1688 "2013-07-09T11:11:22Z")
A thought I had last night - Bad things happening in Alberta, Quebec, Toronto - three areas of Canada which some Canadians ordinarily love to hate. But recently, in these times of crisis, there seems to be, instead of hatred, a lot of support from all across Canada for affected regions. I’m thinking that Canada is kind of like a family. We may seem to hate each other sometimes, but underneath, we really care about our fellow Canadians. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1689 "2013-07-09T12:40:23Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > If this sort of thing is going to become regular, we’re gonna need storm drains the size of subway tunnels. Or to put all the buildings on stilts. My home is on stilts. ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1690 "2013-07-09T13:23:32Z")
The amazing thing is this morning it all appears normal. Other than some washed out sections of track that will take longer to repair GO is up and running, only two service issues on the TTC related to flooding (well if you don’t count elevators out of service, I’m not sure if that is flooding related or not) and my husband reports that traffic was perfectly normal this morning. We had a 6 hour power outage which kind of sucked but considering the pictures I saw last night that’s amazing in itself. When my husband was driving home, north on the 427, water was flowing OVER the top of the 4’ concrete barrier from the southbound lanes in one spot. Unreal amounts of water. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1691 "2013-07-09T13:31:21Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > A thought I had last night - > > Bad things happening in Alberta, Quebec, Toronto - three areas of Canada which some Canadians ordinarily love to hate. But recently, in these times of crisis, there seems to be, instead of hatred, a lot of support from all across Canada for affected regions. > > I’m thinking that Canada is kind of like a family. We may seem to hate each other sometimes, but underneath, we really care about our fellow Canadians. Disasters - natural or otherwise - are what Canadians do best. It practically defines us. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EmAnJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@EmAnJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmAnJ)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1692 "2013-07-09T14:12:53Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > It likely is. And now you’ve got me wondering–who or what is Toronto’s Marine Rescue unit organized under–Toronto Police, Toronto FD, or some other agency? > > I was surprised, when on vacation to Calgary years ago, to find that the Calgary fire department had a marine unit. In the summer, people like to raft or ride inner tubes down the Bow River, and Calgary FD (Marine) is there to keep them safe. So (because I’m curious) my question, **Sunspace** , or other knowledgeable Toronto Dopers, is this: who looks after marine rescue in Toronto? It’s called Aquatic Rescue in Calgary and is one of the specialty teams (along with HAZMAT and the airport crews). There are surface rescue guys and divers. My husband is one of the divers. Burrell (the Fire Chief) is trying to get rid of the team, unfortunately. He, for some reason, doesn’t see the value of the specialty. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1693 "2013-07-09T14:23:49Z")
> [@Moonlitherial](#): > > The amazing thing is this morning it all appears normal. Other than some washed out sections of track that will take longer to repair GO is up and running, only two service issues on the TTC related to flooding (well if you don’t count elevators out of service, I’m not sure if that is flooding related or not) and my husband reports that traffic was perfectly normal this morning. > > We had a 6 hour power outage which kind of sucked but considering the pictures I saw last night that’s amazing in itself. When my husband was driving home, north on the 427, water was flowing OVER the top of the 4’ concrete barrier from the southbound lanes in one spot. Unreal amounts of water. Allegedly, more water was dumped on Toronto yesterday than was dumped by Hurricane Hazel back in the 1950s, which caused a disaster still remembered to this day. [http://o.canada.com/2013/07/08/storm-whips-through-southern-ontario/#\_methods=onPlusOne%2C\_ready%2C\_close%2C\_open%2C\_resizeMe%2C\_renderstart%2Concircled&id=I0\_1373379702706&parent=http%3A%2F%2Fo.canada.com&pfname=&rpctoken=27685851](http://o.canada.com/2013/07/08/storm-whips-through-southern-ontario/#_methods=onPlusOne%2C_ready%2C_close%2C_open%2C_resizeMe%2C_renderstart%2Concircled&id=I0_1373379702706&parent=http%3A%2F%2Fo.canada.com&pfname=&rpctoken=27685851) The fun part: more rain is on the way! ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1694 "2013-07-09T20:46:18Z")
I found this [before and after photo](http://a.yfrog.com/img877/7922/ejtpvm.jpg) of Lac Mégantic, pointing out all the landmarks that have been lost. It’s chilling. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1695 "2013-07-09T21:07:14Z")
That’s disturbing. Horrid. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1696 "2013-07-09T21:13:13Z")
Got the files and electrics up off the office floor. Time to go post the practice cancellation notice on the Canoe Club door. Forecast for severe thunderstorms with large hail, damaging winds or heavy rainfall . . . . large hail, damaging wind gusts and torrential downpours." The metal roof on my home will make for a rather noisy evening. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1697 "2013-07-09T22:41:25Z")
From [this article](http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/07/09/transport-canada-rules-lac-megantic_n_3569228.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-politics) in the Huffington Post, > [@](#): > > Transport Canada says there are no rules against leaving an unlocked, unmanned, running locomotive and its flammable cargo on a main rail line uphill from a populated centre. Really? ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1698 "2013-07-10T01:42:16Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > I found this [before and after photo](http://a.yfrog.com/img877/7922/ejtpvm.jpg) of Lac Mégantic, pointing out all the landmarks that have been lost. It’s chilling. My department’s Lac Megantic Service Canada Centre has gone into emergency mode to handle all the extra people needing federal government help in the aftermath of the disaster - everything from EI claims for all the people whose jobs have disappeared in flames to forwarding death notices to all the other parts of the government. To complicate this, the office is normally located in building number 5 in the above photos - they are currently operating in the local high school. The building next to No 9 in the photos is the local fire department! ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1699 "2013-07-10T01:52:35Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > I found this [before and after photo](http://a.yfrog.com/img877/7922/ejtpvm.jpg) of Lac Mégantic, pointing out all the landmarks that have been lost. It’s chilling. Holy crap. {{{shivers}}} ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1700 "2013-07-10T04:07:06Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > From [this article](http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/07/09/transport-canada-rules-lac-megantic_n_3569228.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-politics) in the Huffington Post, > Really? I’m gonna say, there probably should be. Or, as Jim says, that falls under the same category as, “The City of Calgary has no right to inspect the rail bridges that run through Calgary.” I.E. the railroads are kind of a law unto themselves. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=84) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736.md?page=86)