# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1761 "2013-07-14T19:52:44Z")

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Have fun! Kingston in the summer is a great spot; minimal rain, compared to the spring and fall, and lots of sun! And generally well-stocked with pubs (not that soldiers are interested in such things 🙂 )

I can’t remember the name of it, but there was one scuzzy pub on the main street when I was there which had been Sir John A.'s committee rooms, on the second floor. The ground floor had been a pub in Sir John’s day, and still was!

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1762 "2013-07-15T07:51:27Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Have fun! Kingston in the summer is a great spot; minimal rain, compared to the spring and fall, and lots of sun! And generally well-stocked with pubs (not that soldiers are interested in such things 🙂 )
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> I can’t remember the name of it, but there was one scuzzy pub on the main street when I was there which had been Sir John A.'s committee rooms, on the second floor. The ground floor had been a pub in Sir John’s day, and still was!

I agree. Kingston in the summer is beautiful. Our family spent a few summer weekends there when I was a child. I don’t recall any bad weather in July or August.

When I got to be older, I got to experience the pubs. Fantastic, and well-worth the time spent getting off the highway between Montreal and Toronto for lunch.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1763 "2013-07-15T18:11:06Z")

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Alberta Flood update - it looks like the Alberta government is making changes to allowing people to build in flood plains. [Story here.](http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/14/alberta-government-proposing-strict-new-rules-for-homeowners-in-flood-prone-areas)

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> “Funding under the Disaster Recovery Program is not insurance. It comes with conditions,” says Doug Griffiths, the municipal affairs minister and the province’s point man on floods.
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> “It would not be a prudent use of taxpayer dollars to continually support behaviour that puts people’s homes and safety in harm’s way.”

I think I support this plan - you get help to re-locate, you get help to put flood prevention plans in place, but you don’t get government assistance over and over for the same problem.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1764 "2013-07-15T18:17:46Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Civil law approaches the issues somewhat different, as a theoretical matter: “fault” rather than “negligence”, and direct liability of an employer for an employee, rather than vicarious liability, but the net result is usually the same. (The analogy I sometimes use is that the engine parts for a Honda won’t fit the engine of a Ford, but both cars will get you to the same place.)
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> See articles 1457 and 1463 of the _Civil Code of Québec_:

Thanks for posting that. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1765 "2013-07-16T04:54:40Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Alberta Flood update - it looks like the Alberta government is making changes to allowing people to build in flood plains. [Story here.](http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/14/alberta-government-proposing-strict-new-rules-for-homeowners-in-flood-prone-areas) I think I support this plan - you get help to re-locate, you get help to put flood prevention plans in place, but you don’t get government assistance over and over for the same problem.

I like the idea. A little story…

Although I wasn’t around at the time, I heard enough stories from my parents about Hurricane Hazel hitting Toronto in 1954. The storm, and an overflowing river, washed away a street–houses and people. It was in a flood plain.

Toronto’s policy then was a little stricter than Alberta’s policy is now. It simply did not allow the rebuilding of residences on the flood plain, and turned the area into a park. Indeed, as a result of that storm, Toronto does not allow residential development on any flood plain in the city. This means that today, Toronto has many beautiful parks in the river valleys–but no houses anywhere near them.

I don’t know if it’s feasible to move High River to higher ground (could “High Ground” be a new name for the town?) but if it is, I’d support a ban on rebuilding on the flood plain. Toronto recently had a larger dump of rain than it got during Hurricane Hazel, but nobody’s house washed away, and there were no deaths of people trapped in their house as it was washed away. It seems to me that if High River follows a similar “no rebuilding on the flood plain” policy, then it should expect little to no damage the next time the Highwood River floods.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1766 "2013-07-17T02:46:11Z")

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Alex Colville has [passed away](http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2013/07/16/ns-alex-colville-dies.html?cmp=fbtl). I’ve loved his work ever since I first encountered his paintings in the 1970s. RIP.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1767 "2013-07-17T12:14:47Z")

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You know, I’ve loved “To Prince Edward Island” ever since I saw it but now, having looked at other works of his I’d have to say “Seven Crows” and “Skater” have muscled their way in as well.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1768 "2013-07-17T12:29:15Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Alex Colville has [passed away](http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2013/07/16/ns-alex-colville-dies.html?cmp=fbtl). I’ve loved his work ever since I first encountered his paintings in the 1970s. RIP.

I spent many days admiring his mural in Tweedy Hall at Mount Allison.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1769 "2013-07-18T00:12:02Z")

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[Alberta MLA Mike Allen caught in undercover prostitution sting.](http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/ft-mcmurray-wood-buffalo-mla-to-reflect-on-political-future-amid-calls-for-him-to-step-down-1.1370529) Oy vey. I’m glad to see that it isn’t just the US politicians that are this stupid?

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1770 "2013-07-19T20:51:40Z")

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Just made it into Montréal. You guys sure know how to lay out the welcome mat! Nothing beats driving through Montréal during rush hour traffic unless it is doing so during that apocalypse of a rain storm.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1771 "2013-07-19T21:39:21Z")

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Canada Post is going to feature[four Canadian bands](http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2013/07/19/arts-canadian-band-canada-post-stamps.html) on stamps - Rush, The Guess Who, The Tragically Hip, and Beau Dommage.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1772 "2013-07-19T21:40:40Z")

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Yes, here in Montreal we have storms. I’m being a fool and going online during the storm.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1773 "2013-07-19T21:48:17Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> Yes, here in Montreal we have storms. I’m being a fool and going online during the storm.

Damn. Here’s hoping you don’t get hammered like we did in Toronto.

Seems like the weather is intent on making a clean sweep of major Canadian cities this summer!

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1774 "2013-07-19T21:48:22Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Canada Post is going to feature[four Canadian bands](http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2013/07/19/arts-canadian-band-canada-post-stamps.html) on stamps - Rush, The Guess Who, The Tragically Hip, and Beau Dommage.

The Guess Who’s stamp should be used on mail to the US, in honour of its big hit, “American Woman.”

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1775 "2013-07-19T22:24:57Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> Yes, here in Montreal we have storms. I’m being a fool and going online during the storm.

Damn straight! You guys really know how to pit on a show for visitors, but you really need to learn to drive. There is a nice medium between 80km/h and 140 km/h that you should strive for (although in the downpour I was glad to stick behind the slowsters).

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1776 "2013-07-19T23:04:35Z")

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I’m trying to learn to drive. Trust me, I’m trying.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1777 "2013-07-19T23:37:28Z")

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It was quite a storm: lots of trees down in Petawawa and power out for umpteen thousands including the entire Atomic Energy campus.

On the plus side, I left work an hour early.

My neighbour’s trampoline is MIA and his smaller shed is toppled.

Nothing of consequence at my house, although I’m glad I downed 4 dead trees a couple of weeks back. They would most certainly have toppled today.

Rumour has it more is on the way this evening.

ETA: I feel almost embarrassed to call this a storm after what greater Calgary and Toronto went through though.

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**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1778 "2013-07-19T23:41:45Z")

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Cyros, your time really sucks. Today is the first day of construction workers’ holidays in Quebec, so over 100,000 workers and their families start their vacations today. It’s one of the worst days of the year to be on the road, and even in nice weather, it can be quite an ordeal.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1779 "2013-07-20T00:41:03Z")

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> [@MoodIndigo1](#):
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> Cyros, your time really sucks. Today is the first day of construction workers’ holidays in Quebec, so over 100,000 workers and their families start their vacations today. It’s one of the worst days of the year to be on the road, and even in nice weather, it can be quite an ordeal.

Oh well, made it safe and sound. I really enjoyed some of the views coming down from NB.

Off to the Barrie area tomorrow for a week and then back to New Brunswick. Here is hoping for some good driving weather.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1780 "2013-07-20T22:23:55Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> \<snip\>
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> ETA: I feel almost embarrassed to call this a storm after what greater Calgary and Toronto went through though.

Eh, it was our turn in the barrel. 🙂

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