# The CanaDoper Café, 2013 edition.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736 "2013-01-01T03:29:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1801 "2013-07-25T00:45:27Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> You’re now eligible to be appointed to the Senate!

…for Manitoba.

Congratulations on the house!

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1802 "2013-07-25T00:58:42Z")

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So out of curiosity I found a topo map of Saskatoon, and determined that the house is 17m higher in elevation than the Bessborough Hotel. That’d be one heck of a flood.  
Senate would be nice. I understand there are some sort of allowances to pay for housing?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1803 "2013-07-25T01:19:22Z")

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to qualify for Senate housing allowance:

1. buy house.

2. live in it.

There, was that so hard, Mike Duffy?

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1804 "2013-07-25T01:37:42Z")

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And Mr. Harb.

And Mr. Brazeau.

And Ms. Wallin.

Let’s face it, this shit has do doubt been going on forever.

And it’s about time we put a stop to it. It’s a drop in the bucket; no it’s a drop in the swimming pool, but the optics are bad and fer Christ’s sake, it’s taxpayers money, not yours!

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1805 "2013-07-25T01:44:46Z")

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_No_ doubt, not _do_ doubt.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1806 "2013-07-25T03:38:12Z")

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Joni Mitchell tells Saskatoon [**to piss off**](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/story/2013/07/24/saskatoon-mitchell-memorial-130724.html).

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> “Saskatoon has always been an extremely bigoted community. It’s like the deep south, and the museum was one thing I thought would be beneficial for people.”

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1807 "2013-07-25T03:57:19Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> It’s an old bungalow in Caswell Hill. For it to be flooded would require most of the city to be under water. 🙂

Hey, my old stomping grounds!

> [@Kenm](#):
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> Joni Mitchell tells Saskatoon [**to piss off**](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/story/2013/07/24/saskatoon-mitchell-memorial-130724.html).

That doesn’t surprise me too much - some artistic folk take themselves too damned seriously. I don’t quite understand what Saskatoon not honouring Ms. Mitchell properly has to do with her allegations that Saskatoon is a terribly bigoted place, though.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1808 "2013-07-25T04:15:40Z")

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So much for naming the new south bridge after her. 😛

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1809 "2013-07-25T04:41:32Z")

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Congratulations on the house, **Gorsnak**!

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1810 "2013-07-25T05:26:32Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> Joni Mitchell tells Saskatoon [**to piss off**](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/story/2013/07/24/saskatoon-mitchell-memorial-130724.html).

A museum dedicated to her would be the one thing beneficial to Saskatoon, a city of bigoted people. Remind me again why anyone would want to spend tax payer’s money to honor such a bitch?

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1811 "2013-07-25T14:02:46Z")

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I like Joni Mitchell’s music, though she can be quite… opinionated.

Next month I’ll be going to a benefit concert for the people of Lac-Megantic. The ticket was a good price, and it’s a worthy cause.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1812 "2013-07-26T05:40:21Z")

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[There’s a coffee buying crusade going on!](http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/customers-charmed-by-coffee-buying-crusade-1.1382898) Just when people think Canadians are a bunch of good-natured nice folk, we go and do this! 🙂

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1813 "2013-07-26T12:27:49Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> [There’s a coffee buying crusade going on!](http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/customers-charmed-by-coffee-buying-crusade-1.1382898) Just when people think Canadians are a bunch of good-natured nice folk, we go and do this! 🙂

I think it’s a load of PR horseshit propagated by Tim Horton’s. When you think of the obscene retail markup on coffee, why wouldn’t you give that money to a soup kitchen, or _anything_ more worthy?

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1814 "2013-07-26T13:03:51Z")

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> [@antonio107](#):
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> I think it’s a load of PR horseshit propagated by Tim Horton’s. When you think of the obscene retail markup on coffee, why wouldn’t you give that money to a soup kitchen, or _anything_ more worthy?

Wow. Maybe you should switch to decaf.

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1815 "2013-07-26T15:57:07Z")

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Already have! More than one cup of the regular stuff a day makes my hands shake. 😛

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1816 "2013-07-26T16:08:07Z")

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> [@antonio107](#):
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> I think it’s a load of PR horseshit propagated by Tim Horton’s. When you think of the obscene retail markup on coffee, why wouldn’t you give that money to a soup kitchen, or _anything_ more worthy?

You could be right. I don’t think that Tim Horton’s has started this, but it could be. It could just be that everyone and their dog go to Tim Horton’s regularly, and everyone knows this. 🙂

As for the money being spent better somewhere else, it’s not a zero sum game. Making a whole bunch of people feel a little better about their day because they got a free cup of coffee from a stranger isn’t the worst thing that anyone has ever done in civilization. Sometimes when I’m shopping for groceries, I give the next person my cart and don’t ask for the quarter from the cart from them; I could put that quarter in a charity box instead, but I don’t; you don’t have to be a registered charity to do a good thing.

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1817 "2013-07-26T17:18:27Z")

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And I don’t disagree with that. But I think all the media coverage over it is both A) unnecessary; and B) curious. Tim Hortons is definitely hustling it on social media. Despite the fact that they apparently did nothing.

I don’t know. I’m just not feeling it. If someone paid two dollars for my morning Starbucks, my reaction would be “thank you, but that’s entirely unnecessary.” I don’t need or want someone’s charity.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1818 "2013-07-26T17:19:30Z")

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I heard some guy just purchased and donated a house on Caswell Hill for use as a the new Joni Mitchell Museum.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1819 "2013-07-26T17:31:39Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> I heard some guy just purchased and donated a house on Caswell Hill for use as a the new Joni Mitchell Museum.

That’s awesome! I wish we could find out who it is and thank him, but I guess he wants to remain anonymous. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2013-edition/645736/1820 "2013-07-26T17:38:22Z")

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> [@antonio107](#):
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> And I don’t disagree with that. But I think all the media coverage over it is both A) unnecessary; and B) curious. Tim Hortons is definitely hustling it on social media. Despite the fact that they apparently did nothing.
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> I don’t know. I’m just not feeling it. If someone paid two dollars for my morning Starbucks, my reaction would be “thank you, but that’s entirely unnecessary.” I don’t need or want someone’s charity.

Of course Tim’s will hustle it, it’s free PR that someone used them as a vector to add joy to (a whole bunch of) someone’s day. Did head office do it? Unlikely. They probably didn’t call in the media either, it’s possible someone tweeted it, or maybe someone from the news stops by there for their daily coffee, or the franchisee called the news or whatever. It’s a feel good story to lighten up the news to keep it from being unrelentingly depressing. Heck I’ve seen stories in the past about how the pay it forward of coffee for the person in drive thru behind you went for hours, the only difference is this was one guy vs a chain of people. Kinda wish it had happened when I worked there, it would have been fun to see people’s reactions.

As for someone paying for your coffee being charity, well it’s meant to be a little spot of unexpected joy in your day, not charity.

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