# The Canadoper Café 2024 is now open! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432 "2024-01-01T03:30:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/521 "2024-11-20T23:35:27Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Trump doesn’t like Trudeau because… …Melania likes Trudeau a lot more. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/522 "2024-11-21T14:28:12Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > No shortage of Canadian talent, that’s for sure. I mean, the Super Bowl brought in a Canadian just a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/523 "2024-11-21T14:30:01Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I agree, it’s an embarrassing choice. But I also don’t understand the NFL deciding for many years that rap and hip hop are its only choices, even though I enjoy this music. Just in the last ten years they’ve brought in The Weeknd, Rihanna, the Shakira/Lopez duo, Maroon 5, Coldplay, Katy Perry and Lady Gaga, none of which are rap or hip hop. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/524 "2024-11-21T15:20:30Z")
This is so, and I dial back my comment. However, recent shows (including 2025) feature(d) Kendrick Lamar (redux), Usher, Rhianna, and Snoop/ Dr.Dre/ Eminem/ Lamar. It’s mistaken, but not completely so, and perhaps trending true. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/525 "2024-11-21T15:34:35Z")
When will the federal government start governing again? Is there substance to allegations of a green slush fund? > **[Opinion: MPs are right to take a stand: the government must give Parliament...](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-mps-are-right-to-take-a-stand-the-government-must-give-parliament-the/)** > > The serial refusal of governments of either party to obey Parliament’s demands is part of a broader decline of democracy _The green slush fund was found last spring by Auditor General Karen Hogan to have awarded scores of contracts to projects that didn’t qualify for tax funding because they didn’t support the development of new, sustainable technologies. Most projects that did receive funding vastly overestimated the amount of carbon emissions they reduced. And, most damningly, of the 226 projects funded in the past six years for a total of $836 million, there were 186 conflicts of interest._ [https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/gunter-seeing-red-over-libs-green-slush-fund/ar-AA1uoaBS](https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/gunter-seeing-red-over-libs-green-slush-fund/ar-AA1uoaBS) ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/526 "2024-11-22T01:35:20Z")
Two months of government filibuster and hardly anyone has taken notice. Surely this is partly the fault of the media? It’s a pretty big story, surprised Pierre is not cranking out ads. > **[Opinion: How the filibuster that nobody cares about proves that it’s the...](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/opinion/article-how-the-filibuster-that-nobody-cares-about-proves-that-its-the-right/)** > > The filibuster results from a green investment fund that the Liberal government established, then shut down, after evidence emerged of improper funding and conflicts of interest ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/527 "2024-11-22T01:55:06Z")
Got a “subscribe now” page when I clicked on the preview. Good stuff, protesters! > **[Greenpeace protesters arrested outside Poilievre's official residence | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/greenpeace-protesters-poilievre-stornoway-1.7389537)** > > Greenpeace activists chained themselves to a mockup of oil-extraction equipment outside the official residence of the Official Opposition leader Thursday morning. > [@](#): > > “While I am being arrested, Poilievre is planning to give free passes to big polluters like oil and gas, securing more profits for the richest at the expense of Canadians’ futures,” Keith Stewart, one of the activists arrested and Greenpeace Canada’s senior energy strategist, said in a media statement. “People in Canada deserve leaders who protect people and our climate, not polluters.” ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/528 "2024-11-26T12:22:35Z")
With this talk about Trump’s threat of 25% tariffs on Canadian (and Mexican) goods - would this affect Hydro power? Canada (mostly Quebec) exports a lot of power to New England. How would they feel about a sudden increase in their Hydro rates? ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/529 "2024-11-26T13:03:43Z")
> [@Mark\_Finn](#): > > How would they feel about a sudden increase in their Hydro rates? They’ll just blame Biden anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/530 "2024-11-26T13:09:43Z")
No, they won’t be bothered, because under Trump-o-nomics, Hydro-Quebec will pay the tariff. US homeowners won’t see any change in their bills! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/531 "2024-11-26T14:25:39Z")
How does this work under USMCA, formerly NAFTA? I thought the whole fucking point was to prevent any one of the USA, Canada, or Mexico from imposing undue tariffs on any of the other countries! Not that I trust someone like Donald Trump to follow the rule of law when he decides it isn’t to his advantage, but this is utter bullshit! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/532 "2024-11-26T14:42:56Z")
> [@Mark\_Finn](#): > > would this affect Hydro power? Canada (mostly Quebec) exports a lot of power to New England. That was my first thought when I read about the tariffs today. Hell, we’re screwed anyways, might as well increase the cost 50%, and make some of our own back, and blame it on Trump. What are the Americans going to do? Suddenly start saving the environment?!? 😃 > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > No, they won’t be bothered, because under Trump-o-nomics, Hydro-Quebec will pay the tariff. US homeowners won’t see any change in their bills! And when the costs do go up, they’ll blame us for “stealing” Trump’s tax revenues. So we might as well actually do that! (See above) ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/533 "2024-11-26T15:38:07Z")
The 25% on all goods won’t happen - it’s part of Trump’s Modus Operandi. There will be selective tariffs that won’t hurt the American consumer much. How that plays out in the current Free Trade agreements will be the real question. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/534 "2024-11-26T16:20:36Z")
> [@K364](#): > > The 25% on all goods won’t happen - it’s part of Trump’s Modus Operandi. There will be selective tariffs that won’t hurt the American consumer much. I saw a flurry of headlines suggesting that oil exports from Canada would be exempt, for instance. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/535 "2024-11-26T16:32:18Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > I saw a flurry of headlines suggesting that oil exports from Canada would be exempt Who was it saying that? There’s lots of speculations out there, but it’s all by people who fundamentally don’t have any more facts than we have. And far too many people are stuck thinking in terms of “What makes sense” and “What used to be normal”. That just doesn’t work when Trump is in charge. None of his tariffs the first time around made any sense, and violated a lot of the “norms” we were following, but they happened anyways. Until it’s Trump himself saying there will be exceptions, it’s just wishful thinking, and even if it is Trump saying it, we have to weight that based on his baseline dishonesty, and his inherent wishy-washy-ness. What he believes today may not be what he believes tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/536 "2024-11-26T16:42:09Z")
The 25% was aimed at Canada securing its borders. Different from protecting American manufacturing. Trump is a bully. The first thing bully’s do is wave their arms and threaten. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/537 "2024-11-27T00:31:59Z")
> [@K364](#): > > The 25% was aimed at Canada securing its borders Are they going to stop sending their fentanyl and guns up here? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/538 "2024-11-27T03:10:10Z")
Progressive Conservatives re-elected in Nova Scotia, with a massive majority: 40 seats out of 55. NDP will form Official Opposition. Liberals may take as few as two seats. > **[N.S. Progressive Conservatives to form majority government | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7393824)** > > Tim Houston led Nova Scotia's Progressive Conservatives to another majority government on Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/539 "2024-11-27T15:28:47Z")
This also could have gone in the “How has the disgraced convicted felon…” thread in the pit, but here’ll do. Trump again shows his wishy-washy flair for vague threats. > **[ANALYSIS | What's Trump's price for averting tariffs? He didn't tell Trudeau...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-tariffs-negotiations-analysis-1.7394087)** > > What would it take for Donald Trump to declare a win and drop plans for potentially devastating tariffs? It's the multibillion-dollar enigma now rippling across North America. Details are scant but one thing is clear: We're entering a new chapter,... > [@](#): > > Even people who know Trump, and trade, and Canada, confess to their own befuddlement, from people who worked in Trump’s first White House to others advising the Canadian government. “The challenge is that Canada doesn’t have a clear sense of what does Team Trump really want? What on the border do you want fixed?” Canada-U.S. trade consultant Eric Miller told CBC News. “What does the definition of success look like?” > [@](#): > > Canada has plenty riding on the result. Various estimates say, if implemented fully, Trump’s tariffs **could** strip several points off Canada’s economy. They **could** see Canada’s GDP contract 2.4 per cent, push companies to move production to the U.S., drive down the dollar, stoke inflation and require urgent cuts in interest rates, which will further worsen the dollar and inflation, according to Andreas Schotter, a professor at Ivey Business School at Western University in London, Ont. Per the bolding, my betting syndicate says **_will_.** ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432/540 "2024-11-27T15:42:52Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > > “The challenge is that Canada doesn’t have a clear sense of what does Team Trump really want? What on the border do you want fixed?” Canada-U.S. trade consultant Eric Miller told CBC News. “What does the definition of success look like?” It’s not the border between Canada and the US that has to be fixed, it’s the border between Canada and everywhere else. Once someone Trump doesn’t like is in Canada, there is very little Canada can do to stop them from trying to get into the US. We could set up exit controls on all our border crossings, but that will be very expensive, and would require screening everyone who leaves, and would mirror the US screening everyone who enters. It would probably double the cost of the border overall (combining both US and Canadian spending), without really stopping any more people than the US already stops. What they really want is for Canada to make its entry policies the exact same as the US entry policies, no matter what those policies are. So, the only way we can comply with what they really want is to make ourselves as stupid and racist as Trump is on any given day. I trust we can all see the problems with that plan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-canadoper-cafe-2024-is-now-open/995432.md?page=28)