# The Cardinals Won the NL Central... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 9, 2001, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435 "2001-10-09T22:59:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/1 "2001-10-09T22:59:33Z")
Or why I should have listened to **Crunchy Frog** … After a season of chasing the Astros and for a brief shining moment, my beloved Cubs, the Cards pulled it of at season’s end. With strong performances from Drew, Edmonds and McGuire, the Carsd are on their way to possibly their tenth World Series victory. BTW, I should always bow to **Crunchy’s** baseball knowledge. He was right and I was wrong. As Cubs fans learn to say from birth, here’s to next year. [sub]Two down and two to go. Damn stupid bet[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![jcgmoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@jcgmoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jcgmoi)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/2 "2001-10-09T23:19:32Z")
**hardygrrl** , I hesitate to interrupt your public abasement, but the Cards finished **second** in the NL Central behind the Astros. Of course, they finished ahead of the Cubs, as is only right. But hey, the Cubs won in all in '08! ---
**Author:** ![blur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dbc845/32.png) [@blur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blur)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/3 "2001-10-10T00:20:01Z")
pulls up a chair and watches the payoff ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/4 "2001-10-10T00:51:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jcgmoi \* > **hardygrrl, I hesitate to interrupt your public abasement, but the Cards finished second in the NL Central behind the Astros.** Well, technically, we tied the Astros for best record in the NL. We’re in the Wild Card spot because there was no one-game playoff this year and the Astros beat the Cards 9-7 in the regular season series. And a strong performance by McGwire this year? What games were you watching? And no mention of Pujols? He carried this team through Drew’s injury and Edmonds’s slump with a bad shoulder. Although I won’t go so far as pick the Cards for the WS Champs this year. ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/5 "2001-10-10T02:31:05Z")
::grovels at Crunchy’s feet. She watched Cubs games:: ---
**Author:** ![blur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dbc845/32.png) [@blur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blur)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/6 "2001-10-10T03:21:42Z")
Crunchy, FYI, MLB will not do a one game playoff for seeding purposes. It will only be used for two or more teams tied for an actual playoff spot. Since both the Astros and Cards were in the playoffs, no 1 game playoff needed. ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/7 "2001-10-10T12:01:32Z")
::Hands blur a cookie and says thank you, then resumes groveling:: ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/8 "2001-10-10T14:46:33Z")
Yeah, well, this is all very interesting and stuff, but how ‘bout them Braves?!? 10 Division titles in a row AND kicked the Astros butt in game 1! More offense in the last 6 games than in the first 156 combined! We’re peakin’, baby! Don’t mind me, I’m just being smug while I can. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/9 "2001-10-11T00:37:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Doctor Jackson \* > \*\*Yeah, well, this is all very interesting and stuff, but how 'bout them Braves?!? \*\* Hey this thread is for **hardygrrl’s** embarrassment, not for bragging about favorite teams. 😉 But how bout them Braves? They made great doormats for the Cards last year. 😛 BTW **blur** , thanks for the info, I did not know that (obviously). ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/10 "2001-10-11T03:37:16Z")
::looks up in amazement as Crunchy admits to not knowing something, then resumes groveling, with a touch of ass kissing:: ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/11 "2001-10-12T01:22:34Z")
AHA! The Cards _are_ the NL Central Division Champs! Well, we’re the co-champions at least. The recordbooks will show it that way, not as the Cards being the #2 team in the division, according to a MLB official. The link I have is from the [St Louis Post-Dispatch](http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/Sports/Cardinals/71A1721EBB5784E486256AE10015F047?OpenDocument&Headline=Cards%20Notebook%3A%20Record%20book%20will%20show%20Cards%20as%20co-champs%20in%20NL%20Central) website, but I can’t get it to work. ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/12 "2001-10-12T11:48:48Z")
Ok, enough groveling! Crunchy, are you happy now? ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/13 "2001-10-12T12:35:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Doctor Jackson \* > Yeah, well, this is all very interesting and stuff, but how 'bout them Braves?!? 10 Division titles in a row AND kicked the Astros butt in game 1! Amen, brother! One game until we return to the NLCS and wait for the winner of that other series. As for this doormat thing, **Crunchy Frog** , I would just remind you of the year the Cardinals had the Braves in the NLCS 3 games to 1 . . . I just can’t remember what happened. Could you please remind me?😉 ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/14 "2001-10-12T21:34:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > \*\*As for this doormat thing, **Crunchy Frog** , I would just remind you of the year the Cardinals had the Braves in the NLCS 3 games to 1 . . . I just can’t remember what happened. Could you please remind me?😉 \*\* Yeah, yeah, in '96 the Braves came back to go to the WS, but at least the Cards made it interesting. Last year the Braves rolled on their backs faster than a $3 whore getting a five-spot waved in her face. 😉 > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by hardygrrl_ > \*\* Ok, enough groveling! \*\* No it isn’t. You have a whole post season to go. I still haven’t gotten the pic of you in a Cards hat. And are you unable to find the info for the Post-Dispatch online? Cuz I haven’t seen any ad from you in the paper yet either. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2001, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cardinals-won-the-nl-central/86435/15 "2001-10-13T03:34:21Z")
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