Peace, or else some restless shambling live-flesh-devouring semblance of life as the case may be, be upon him.
Look, this ain’t hardcore. Hardcore is Zombie Muhammad fucking Zombie Jesus.
different crime, same punishment. insert joke about the 2nd coming here.
Oh, please. Let me be clear: there are millions and millions of Muslims who are happy to live in the 21st century and understand the role and place of their religion. There are also millions and millions of them who prefer a good old world caliphate. Short of that, they’d like their religion to be the law of the land—every land. Many of these throwbacks think that rubbing the koran on your ass or drawing a cartoon of their precious Muhammad IS justification for violence. Surely this can’t be news to you. So, to all of them—and all who think like them—a hardy “Fuck You”. The longer that the world—including civilized Muslims—tip toes around their murderous ignorance, the worse it will be. At some point the world will have to take a deep breadth and treat them like we’d treat aliens from another planet who claim their religion mandates that they rape five-year-olds. The class of civilization(s) will happen then. Or we—again, including sane Muslims—can shame them into being civilzed now.
And just to be crystal clear. Islam is at the root of this. It’s as if Jews and Christians started taking every word in the Old Testament literally. It is up to the rest of us and shape Islam for the world in which we live. They can take their hurt feelings and their honor killings and genital mutilation and rape as a punishment and stonings and go suck camel balls.
Not to imply that they don’t already suck camel balls, of course.
Hope that helps.
In the thread that I am in, the topic is an asshole who happens to be Muslim hit an asshole who happens to be an atheist, and a judge decided to be an asshole who arguably is not doing his duty.
But I am totally unsurprised that you cited this supposed fact in defense of the statement that this is “…yet another incident that points to the ill fit between Islam and the civilized world”. Of course there is no logical relationship between your fun fact and the capability of the religion to exist in the civilized world. It’s just a fun fact. It’s not based on any sort of analysis or an honest attempt to understand how Muslims live. It ignores the fact the Muslims primarily live in the civilized world for example. A statement that should be so obvious to anyone except those whose opinions are permanently biased by prejudice. That’s why there is no point in discussing your fun fact or what you think it means. There is no point in arguing against the ignorance of prejudice. It’s enough to just point out the obvious and hope you make more claims so that those who are aware of your obviously prejudiced beliefs can learn how prejudice works.
Feel free to give more fun facts about all the bad things you know about living in predominantly Muslim countries. I sincerely want to learn more about your observation that Islam is a good predictor of living without government, language, trade, infrastructure, agriculture, science or math, and all the other things that go along with civilization.
As in my response to Magiver it shows how prejudice works, so that helps a bunch. That’s pretty much the most your contribution is capable of.
Oh, my mistake. A Muslim guy becoming violent at some imagined insult is just the same as a Quaker flying off the handle. :roll eyes:
Wise up, Inbred. How many instances of some Muslim nut flying off the handle and becoming violent in the name of their precious religion do you require before you stop and connect the dots? I’d like a number here, Inbred. But don’t stop too short, because if you do you might get hit in the back of the head by a common denominator the size of Jupiter.
Thanks, I’ve learned more about prejudice from this post. Apparently prejudice works best with anxiety. Do you exhibit anxiety in many situations or just when you are thinking of amorphous groups of people?
It’s not a supposed fact or a fun fact, it’s a fact. 75% of Muslims live in nations that are at least 90% Muslim. Do the math.
There is a logical relationship and there’s nothing fun about it. Islamic responses to blasphemy have killed people and are killing people as we speak. This thread is about the intolerance of Muslims regarding their religion.
How a Muslim lives is irrelevant. I’m no more obligated to concern myself with the religion than I am with snake handling Christians or Hasidic Jews. Not interested, don’t care. It only becomes relevant when their prejudices or religious eccentricities are acted upon against other people. Muslims are obligated to understand the laws of the societies they choose to live in. In the United States, we routinely poke fun at religion(s). Get used to it or get out.
Today’s fun fact is that 2 NATO officers were killed because of the blasphemy of burning Korans. Of course the thread is about a man attacking someone for the blasphemy of a Halloween costume. Just the mere suggestion that a book is burned will trigger thousands of people to riot around the world. By all means, you go ahead and enlighten us on the logic behind this and why you consider it civilized.
I’ll just say this, I think there is something major about the case which is missing in the newsreport which explains the Judges decision. Like the McDonalds case.
Individual assholes responses to other assholes has certainly killed people the world over and is the most common cause of homicide in the United States and most civilized countries today. At least you’re worried about your own niche of assholes.
I routinely do not poke fun at religion, can I still be part of the United States? The only hole in the news story is the judge’s severely misguided verdict (assuming all the facts are in). Perhaps the stupid asshole that happens to be Muslim will learn his lesson in a civil suit from the asshole who happens to be an atheist.
So the Taliban would normally not shoot NATO officers in Afghanistan?
It feels like it but the news that reports it doesn’t vary too much on the set of facts other than a blogger dispute over whether the judge said he was a Muslim convert.
Not the religious right. I was responding to a comment about that group and made my comment about “a lot” of Christians, not all of them.
Thing is, the only reason a minority of Muslims is able to behave in a civilized country is because they’re not particularly good at being Muslims. magellan said that Islam is an ill fit with the civilized world, not necessarily all Muslims. Just most of them.
I don’t think this helps. Being a fanatic doesn’t make you a better Muslim (or Christian or anything else), just a dumber one.
I’m concerned about Imams all over the world dealing out death sentences like candy on Halloween. This isn’t just an individual, it’s many individuals preaching this kind of behavior. The religion is based on a prophet who wasn’t particularly fond of blasphemy.
The athiest isn’t an asshole. He’s a human being with an opinion and a sense of humor. This is not an isolated incident in relation to Muslims nor is it a random act of a Muslim. The person attacked him because it was blasphemous to his religion.
Cite all the people rioting and demanding death are Taliban.
And I challenged it based on the premise of the amendment, the background of those who wrote it, and the complete lack of support beyond your imagination that “a lot” of Christians hold your opinion of them.
I am not sure you are paying attention to what I said. I’m not arguing that they weren’t Christians; many of them certainly were. If you want to argue that the authors of the Constitution were the religious right of their day, then good luck to you: I think the First Amendment pretty well proves they weren’t.
I think you’re content to read my comment more broadly than it was written. I didn’t say Christians are opposed to the First Amendment. I do think the religious right (and other hardline religious people) would be happy if the law did more to discourage criticism and mockery of religion. In the meantime I’m not saying “Christians are the real bad guy” or that anybody is to blame in this story - at least as it’s been reported so far - other than the fuckwit Muslim bully and the pompous idiot judge. And I actually have come to the reluctant conclusion over the last couple of years that a lot of liberals are a bit too quick to write off some of the deeper problems with Islam in the name of pluralism.
I would really like to read the official transcript because something seems… off about the case. And doesn’t it seem like the case should and would be provoking a whole lot more outrage. Watching the video of the attack on YouTube doesn’t help much because you can’t really see what happens, and the audio on the YouTubes about the case are similarly weird.
I could be wrong and this could be 100% legit, but there’s something fishy seeming about the coverage so far.
It’s an epidemic!
The atheist is an atheist in an atheist organization. He’s almost certainly an asshole. And that isn’t a display of a sense of humor, it’s a loser trying to be offensive. As for your last two sentences, other violent acts that are not isolated incidents: murders because some guy banged some other guy’s girlfriend or offended his pride or some other similarly stupid response to an attack on one’s identity.
The people rioting are people who want NATO out of Afghanistan and NATO’s attempts to destroy their religion are another example how NATO can’t exist in a civilized world that respects Islam. The Taliban took responsibility for the NATO officers killed.
Chessic Sense, your argument is impervious to reason. It’s circularity is exquisite. Only a true Scotsman could appreciate it!
It does not, of course, matter. It’s possible he doesn’t know much about Islam - although come to think of it he probably just added the zombie element because it was a Halloween parade - but he knew enough to know that most Muslims believe it’s blasphemous to depict Muhammad (and some sects go even further than that), and he knew there have been plenty of incidents in which Muslims went crazy over non-Muslims violating that stricture. That isn’t acceptable and it has no place in a democracy. Magiver is right that other religions got the same treatment in the parade, and as far as we know, no other religious people went nuts and started beating on the people who were making the jokes/being rude/trying to provoke them/whatever other description you prefer.