# The Celebrity Death Pool 2004

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359 "2003-12-01T22:29:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/1 "2003-12-01T22:29:28Z")

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It’s time once again for the sickest thread on the board – the Celebrity Death Pool 2004!

**The Rules:**

**1.** You pick 13 celebrities whom you predict will die within the calendar year 2004. If any of your celebrities dies, you score 100 points minus their age at death. Whoever has the most points at the end of the year wins the undying admiration of the SDMB. 😃

**2. All picks must be time- and date-stamped by midnight Chicago time, Dec. 31st, 2003.** (For you furriners, that’s U.S. Central time, which is six hours behind Greenwich.)

**3.** Valid picks must **not** be:  
a. already dead  
b. a fictional character  
c. non-human  
d. under age 18 at death (This means that the Olsen twins, Haley Joel Osment, and the kids from the _Harry Potter_ movies are invalid.)  
e. a registered member of the SDMB, 'cause that would be weird.

**4.** You can pick people who are age 100 or more but you won’t score any points for them. See the “Quantity Not Quality” Award below.

**5.** If we are uncertain about the celebrity’s age at death, we will go with the higher age (lower score).

**6.** Your picks must specify a name: listing “anybody from the cast of [your most hated TV show]” as a pick will be ignored.

**7.** Persons under sentence of death will be valid for scoring points only if they die by means other than official execution.

**8.** Any poster who kills or otherwise contributes to the death of any celebrity mentioned in this thread will be disqualified. It’s just a game, people. The only exceptions to this rule would be deaths caused by those posters serving as members of the police or armed forces of any country, in the line of duty.

**9. Editing your choices: be careful!** You can make changes to your list before the end of the year, but it has to be clear which names are your final choices. If any of your picks dies before the end of the year, you may submit a substitute by 12-31-2003. If you do not submit another name, I will submit the rest. You can have no more than 13 picks. If you pick more than 13, or if any of your picks is otherwise invalid, I may ask for clarification; otherwise I will submit the first 13 names on your list.

We have no rule about submissions having to be unique, despite claims of “copying” anyone else’s list. Sharing news of celebrities in ill health and whatnot are up to individual posters.

We have no rule about valid SDMB memberships (disqualifying members who have been banned).

Spelling counts! Please try to spell celebrities’ names correctly so I can find them on the list if they die.

If the celebrity uses a stage name or is commonly known by a nickname, it is helpful to have the person’s “real” name listed as well.

Some celebrities have common names or similar names. It is helpful to specify whether you’re picking “George Herbert Walker Bush” or “George W. Bush,” to use examples from this year’s picks – not just “George Bush.” If you pick “the Pope” I’ll assume you mean “Pope John Paul II,” but it is helpful to be more specific.

Additional awards:

The “Quantity Not Quality” Award: to be awarded to the poster or posters who pick the greatest number of celebrities who died, regardless of their actual point value.

The “Inside Track With the Grim Reaper” Award: to be awarded to the poster or posters who pick a celebrity that no one else picked.

The “Opening Kickoff” Award: to be awarded to the poster or posters who pick the first listed celebrity to die in 2004.

The “Final Hours” Award: to be awarded to the poster or posters who pick the last listed celebrity to die in 2004.

Remember, it’s easy to come up with a list of really old celebrities, but you likely won’t score many points with their deaths. Many players prefer to pick people who are known to be ill, or who engage in self-destructive behavior, or who are just tempting Fate.

My thanks to **Little Nemo** who created this perennial thread and its rules, which I am essentially copying.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/2 "2003-12-01T23:08:46Z")

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Aw, what the hell…I’ll try. Now, understand, I don’t follow celebs too much, so I’m kinda guessing here:

Gimmes:

1. Richard Pryor
2. The Pope

Old dudes that may go at any time:

1. Harry Morgon
2. Bob Newhart (that would be a shame!)
3. James Garner (he ain’t lookin’ so good)
4. Peter O’Toole

Dudes who are asking for it:

1. Alex Yoong (with his mad driving skills, I surprised hes still with us!)
2. Travis Pastrana (accidents happen)
3. Jeff Gordon (dangerous job, his)

Wild cards:

1. Michael Jackson (he might “off” himself in jail)
2. Liam Gallagher (maybe during a drunken punch-up?)
3. 50 Cent and 13. Eminem (those guys all like to shoot each other up)

I should get extra points for showing my hand first! 😃

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She told me she loved me like a brother. She was from Arkansas, hence the Joy!

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**Author:** ![Rodd\_Hill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@Rodd\_Hill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodd_Hill)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/3 "2003-12-01T23:36:42Z")

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All right: did poorly in '03, with only Idi Amin kicking off…so here’s to more in '04!

1. Pope John Paul 2
2. Gerald Ford
3. Fidel Castro
4. Augusto Pinochet
5. Henry Kissinger
6. Gordon Lightfoot
7. Dennis Hopper
8. Suge Knight
9. Kim Jong Il
10. Courtney Love
11. Maureen O’Hara
12. Robert Downey Jr.

and just in case he does implode,

1. Michael Jackson

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/4 "2003-12-01T23:49:19Z")

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Ronald Reagan  
Christopher Reeve  
Walter Cronkite  
Queen Elizabeth II  
Michael Jackson  
Saddam Hussein  
Osama bin Laden  
Johnny Carson  
Keith Richards  
Fidel Castro  
Marlon Brando  
Andy Griffith  
Don Knotts

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/5 "2003-12-01T23:49:20Z")

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This’ll be my first formal participation in the Death Pool. I’m picking a lot of long shots in the hope they’ll pay off.

ENTERTAINERS

1. Martin Landau
2. Kirk Douglas
3. Rodney Dangerfield

PUBLISHER  
4. Hugh Hefner

MUSICIAN  
5. Pete Townshend

AGING FITNESS GURU  
6. Jack LaLanne

POLITICAL FIGURES  
7. Kim Jong Il  
8. Pope John Paul II  
9. Ronald Reagan  
10. William Rehnquist

RELATIVE LONG SHOTS  
11. Yaphet Kotto  
12. Sammy “The Bull” Gravano  
13. Robert Downey Jr.

To the best of my knowledge, they’re all alive at present.

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**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/6 "2003-12-02T00:47:07Z")

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I have been waiting for this all year.

POLITICAL FIGURES

1. Yasser Arafat
2. Jean Bertrand Aristide - President of Haiti
3. Pope John Paul
4. Saddam Hussein
5. Osama Bin Laden

ENTERTAINERS  
6… Elizabeth Taylor  
7. Scott Weiland  
8. Gabriel Garcia Marquez  
9. John Goodman

BUSINESS  
10. Roy Disney  
11. Sam Walton

SPORTS  
12. John Madden  
13. Ralph Friedgen (Coach of Maryland)

As with everything I like the longshots.

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**Author:** ![Flymaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Flymaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flymaster)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/7 "2003-12-02T01:46:43Z")

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The Gimmes:

1. Pope John Paul II
2. Ronald Reagan

The “Under the Guns”:

1. Osama Bin Laden
2. Saddam Hussein
3. Paul Bremer
4. Yasser Arafat

The Dangerous Jobs:

1. Kevin Harvick
2. Alain Robert (That French spiderman guy)

The Random Tragedys

1. George Steinbrenner
2. Jackie Chan
3. Bob Barker

The Political Section

1. Hugo Chavez (Venezuela)
2. Boris Yeltsin (Just seems ready)

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/8 "2003-12-02T02:04:34Z")

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Whooooooo!  
_It’s the most morbid tiiiime of year…_

I’ve been working on my DP2004 list in my head for months, so now I have to decide which person(s) I shall give the gift of life too this year.

\*\* a35362 \*\* You totally rock for doing this and doing such a great job in your inaugural run this year.

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**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/9 "2003-12-02T02:19:36Z")

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**Sports**

_Arnold Palmer  
Joe Paterno_

**Entertainment**  
_Charlton Heston  
Marlon Brando  
Courtney Love  
Scott Weiland (of Stone Temple Pilots)  
Don Knotts  
Michael Jackson  
\*  
 **Politics**  
\*  
Ronald Reagan  
Dick Cheney  
Kim Il-Sung_

**Just Damn Old**  
\*  
John Paul II  
The Queen Mother (of the UK)\*

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**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/10 "2003-12-02T02:24:11Z")

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whoops - that’s Kim Jong-Il not Kim Il-Sung, sorry!

KTM

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**Author:** ![Horseflesh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horseflesh/32/7502_2.png) [@Horseflesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horseflesh)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/11 "2003-12-02T02:45:51Z")

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HOPEFULS

1. Lee Boyd Malvo (since his trial isn’t over yet does it count if he gets the death penalty? I’ll pick him anyway, prison justice can be harsh.)
2. Saddam Hussein
3. Fred Phelps

YA PLAY WITH FIRE…  
4. Andrew Fastow (Enron)  
5. Michael Kopper (Enron)  
6. David Myers (Worldcom)  
7. Dennis Kozlowski (Tyco)  
8. Mark Swartz (Tyco)

FEAR THE REAPER  
9. Ronald Reagan  
10. Queen Elizabeth II

RANDOM PICKS  
11. Sean Connery  
12. Mary Tyler Moore  
13. Carol Burnett

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/12 "2003-12-02T02:52:46Z")

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**Krebnar the Magnificent** : the Queen mother died last year

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/13 "2003-12-02T02:59:07Z")

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No particular category:

1. The Pope
2. Kenny “The Snake” Stabler (and he’s my favorite quarterback, too)
3. Dick Cheney
4. Andy Griffith
5. Abe Vigoda (then the jokes will stop)
6. Robert Downey, Jr.
7. Phil Donahue
8. Dale Earnhardt, Jr
9. Dan Rather
10. Bill Wyman
11. Iggy Pop
12. Gary Coleman
13. Magic Johnson

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/14 "2003-12-02T03:09:06Z")

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1. Ronald Reagon
2. Pope John Paul
3. Richard Pryor
4. Magic Johnson
5. Osama Bin Laden
6. Saddam Hussein
7. Marlon Brando
8. Charlton Heston
9. Fay Wray
10. Kirk Douglas
11. Henry Kissinger
12. Gerald Ford
13. Jack Lalane

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/15 "2003-12-02T03:21:04Z")

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1. Fay Wray
2. Ronald Reagan
3. Lady Bird Johnson
4. Rosa Parks
5. Abigail Van Buren
6. Pope John Paul II
7. Rose Marie
8. Doris Day
9. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross
10. Tom Laughlin
11. Greg Louganis
12. Richard Pryor
13. Kim Jong Il

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/16 "2003-12-02T04:07:45Z")

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1 Barbara Bush  
2 Ronald Reagan  
3 Pope John Paul 2  
4 Gerald Ford  
5 Johnny Carson  
6 Elizabeth Taylor  
7 Michael Jackson  
8 Marlon Brando  
9 Lady Bird Johnson 10 Walter Cronkite  
11 Richard Pryor  
12 James Garner  
13 Nancy Reagan

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/17 "2003-12-02T05:00:14Z")

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A combination of “possibles”, “wild cards” and “wishful thinking”, all of whom will be happy to hear they’re on the least accurate Dead Pool List in existance, and thus have a 92.3% chance of surviving 2004.

1. Ronald Reagan
2. Steve Irwin
3. Joe Piscopo
4. Arnold Schwarzenegger
5. John Larroquette
6. Loretta Swit
7. Jack Palance
8. James Garner
9. Al Pacino
10. Ashton Kutcher
11. Jodie Sweetin
12. Merle Haggard
13. George Jones

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Macphisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Ms\_Macphisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Macphisto)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/18 "2003-12-02T05:07:55Z")

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1. Pope John Paul II
2. Ronald Reagan
3. Michael Jackson
4. Mike Tyson
5. Prince Philip
6. Walter Cronkite
7. Stephen Hawking
8. Augusto Pinochet
9. Gordon Lightfoot
10. Robert Downey Jr.
11. Justin Timberlake
12. Anne Rice
13. Christopher Lee (hopefully not!)

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/19 "2003-12-02T06:03:45Z")

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1. Andy Rooney
2. Ozzy Osbourne
3. Sharon Osbourne
4. Ronald Reagan
5. Bob Banfield (an older local news guy; they always send him out where the worst possible conditions abound)
6. Dick Cheney
7. Fidel Castro
8. Michael Jackson
9. Kirk Douglas
10. Roy Horn
11. Eminem
12. Maya Angelou
13. Paris Hilton

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/20 "2003-12-02T07:00:14Z")

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Thanks GIGO - totally spaced that.

Sorry **a35362** , I’m totally throwing off your thread. Many apologies. Could you change that to Saddam?

:smack:

KTM

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