# The Celebrity Death Pool 2004

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359 "2003-12-01T22:29:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 11

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/201 "2003-12-29T04:44:12Z")

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**gobear** , no insinuation intended, it looks like an honest mistake to me. Your post is quoted in it’s entirety below, I’ve only added bolding to highlight where the confusion came in. What I was concerned about is people disputing your points if one of your list did die, because you had accidently chosen 15 candidates instead of 13.

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> Well, I didn’t do too well last year, and goodness knows the celebs have been dropping like the plague’s in town. So let’s see if I can be the Angel of Death for 2004. \<reverberating evil laughter\>  
> 13. Al Lewis (Grandpa Munster)  
> 12. Luise Rainier (1937 Academy Award winner)  
> 11. RuPaul  
> 10. Pope JP II (kinda obligatory at this point)  
> 9. Tony Randall (old)  
> 8. Rosa Parks (really old)  
> 7. Shirley Temple (old)  
> **6. Glenn Ford (old)  
> 5. Ronald Reagan (old and terminally ill)  
> 6. Harvey Korman (old and washed up)  
> 5. Saddam Hussein (one can hope, can’t one?)**  
> 4. John Goodman (obese and middle-aged)  
> 3. Scott Weiland (washed up junkie)  
> 2. Larry Kramer (HIV+ writer and activist)
> 
> 1. Jack Williamson (\>90 SF author)

Note that 6 and 5 are repeated - 6. Glenn Ford, 5. Ronald Reagan, 6. Harvey Korman, 5. Saddam Hussein.

I apologise if I came across wrong. I did not believe for a second that this was intentional.

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/202 "2003-12-29T08:14:54Z")

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On my list would you please replace Dick Clark with New Zealand author Janet Frame and Ed McMahon with Elisabeth Kubler-Ross.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![cadolphin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@cadolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cadolphin)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/203 "2003-12-29T08:17:31Z")

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Please drop Greg Louganis and add Janet Frame.

Thank you.

Kathy

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/204 "2003-12-29T12:51:53Z")

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Please drop Quentin Tarantino and Tom Green and replace them with Yassir Arafat (ill health) and Pervez Musharraf (two assassination attempts already – that guy is _so_ marked).

Also since it looks like Roy Horn is going to recover (dammit 😃 ), please replace him with Marlon Brando (I’ve just got a feeling that this’ll be his year.)

My list should now read as follows:

1. Ronald Reagan
2. Pope John Paul II
3. Fidel Castro
4. Lady Bird Johnson
5. Michael Jackson
6. George W. Bush
7. Suge Knight
8. Dick Cheney
9. Ted Kennedy
10. Marlon Brando
11. Yassir Arafat
12. Jerry Lewis
13. Pervez Musharraf

Hmmm. That eliminates most of my long-shots, altho Suge Knight, Dubya, and Jacko are still kinda out there.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/205 "2003-12-29T13:59:58Z")

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Ah, I see. My apologies, **Cazzle**.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/206 "2003-12-29T14:11:27Z")

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OK, Final list, 13 names

**1.** Al Lewis (Grandpa Munster)  
**2.** Luise Rainier (1937 Academy Award winner)  
\*\*3.\*\*Scott Weiland (junkie)  
\*\*4.\*\*Pope JP II (kinda obligatory at this point)  
**5.** Tony Randall (old)  
**6.** Shirley Temple (old)  
**7.** Glenn Ford (old)  
**8.** Ronald Reagan (old and terminally ill)  
**9.** Mickey Rooney (old)  
**10.** John Goodman (obese and middle-aged)  
**11.** Olivia d’Havilland (Good God, she was Melanie in “Gone With the Wind”!)  
**12.** Larry Kramer (HIV+ writer and activist)  
**13.** Rosa Parks (really old)

Barring any unexpected deaths between now and Wednesday, this is my absolutely final, cross my heart, list.

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**Author:** ![WIGGUM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WIGGUM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WIGGUM)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/207 "2003-12-29T15:51:38Z")

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I hope I’m getting these in under the wire.

1. Bill Cosby
2. Sean Penn
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Pope John Paul
5. Horatio Sanz
6. Courtney Love
7. Michael J. Fox
8. Vince Neil
9. Anthony Hopkins
10. Colin Powell
11. Goldie Hawn
12. Jack Wagner
13. Julius Erving (Dr. J)

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**Author:** ![ladybug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/46a35a/32.png) [@ladybug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladybug)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/208 "2003-12-30T00:52:22Z")

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Here are my picks for 2004:

1. Ruben Studdard (American Idol)
2. Stan Lee (comic book creator)
3. Irina Slutskaya (Russian figure skater)
4. Pope John Paul II
5. Sandra Dee
6. John Goodman
7. Dick Button (commentator/former figure skater)
8. Carol Channing
9. Randy “Macho Man” Savage
10. Ian McKellen
11. Dick Clark
12. Mel Brooks
13. Shirley Temple

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**Author:** ![katie1341](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@katie1341](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katie1341)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/209 "2003-12-30T01:54:55Z")

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Well, no one on my list last year died, I’m not very good at this.

1. Richard Pryor
2. Ronald Regan
3. Saddam Hussein
4. Michael Jackson (he was on my list last year, too)
5. Ozzy Osbourne
6. Muhammed Ali
7. Andy Rooney
8. Ruth Bader Ginsburg
9. B. B. King
10. Bob Denver
11. David Crosby
12. Dan Ackroyd
13. Dick van Dyke

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/210 "2003-12-30T04:03:36Z")

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I’d like to select Kirk Douglas as an alternate pick.

Just in case one of my main picks croaks before Thursday.

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**Author:** ![Sapphyre\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Sapphyre\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapphyre_Rose)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/211 "2003-12-30T06:21:24Z")

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Here are my picks for the 2004 Deathpool

Pervez Musharraf  
Patti Labelle  
Peter Jackson  
Dick Clark  
Lilli Thomlin  
George Clooney  
Ariel Sharon  
Eddie Murphy  
Barbra Striesand  
Jane Fonda  
David Letterman  
Liza Minelli  
Jimmy Carter

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**Author:** ![GWVet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/65b543/32.png) [@GWVet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GWVet)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/212 "2003-12-30T13:41:17Z")

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1. Stevie Wonder
2. Dick Cheney
3. Jan Michael Vincent
4. Lauren Bacall
5. Dorothy deBorba (Echo from the Little Rascals)
6. Wilford Brimley
7. Peter Boyle
8. Walter Cronkite
9. Nick Nolte
10. William Green (Cleveland Browns RB)
11. Mickey Rooney
12. Casey Kasem
13. Trent Reznor

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/213 "2003-12-30T14:49:14Z")

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My picks:

1. James Garner
2. Gary Rossington from Lynyrd Skynyrd
3. Andy Griffith
4. Barbara Billingsley
5. Rip Taylor
6. Loretta Lynn
7. James Brown
8. Carol Burnett
9. Jerry Lewis
10. Mary Tyler Moore
11. Dick Van Dyke
12. Jesse Jackson
13. Barbara Bush (wife of George the Elder)

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**Author:** ![smam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/46a35a/32.png) [@smam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smam)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/214 "2003-12-30T16:09:26Z")

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Bob Monkhouse has died. **BIH Boy** has him as a pick.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/215 "2003-12-30T18:49:10Z")

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I guess I’m predicting a sort of blood-letting in the Middle east this year.

1. Osama Bin Laden
2. Ayman al Zawahiri (al Quaida)
3. Izzat al Duri (Iraqi)
4. Mullah Omar
5. Ahmed Yassin (Hamas)
6. Ron Santo
7. Janet Frame
8. Abigail Van Buren
9. Jerry Lewis
10. Claude Ryan (Canadian politician)
11. Marlon Brando
12. Richard Pryor
13. Pope John Paul II

Alternates.

1. Ronald Reagan
2. Ayatollah Montezeri

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/216 "2003-12-30T19:02:28Z")

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1. John Paul II (will soon find out if he made the right career choice)
2. Ronald Wilson Reagan (_Bonzo Goes to Forest Lawn_)
3. Gerald Rudolph Ford, Jr.
4. Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (token Royal with the best [worst] odds)
5. John Kenneth Galbraith (even though the points suck)
6. Gordon Lightfoot (a favorite last year; virtually overlooked this year; the Grim Reaper notices these things)
7. Studs Terkel
8. Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.
9. Lou Rawls
10. Ed McMahon
11. Bill O’Reilly (a cerebrovascular accident waiting to happen; in the interest of being fair and balanced I also pick:)
12. Molly Ivins (how come few women make these lists?)  
And just for the fun of it:
13. Norm Abrams (power tool accident, of course)

spare tire: Jerry Lewis

Of course, with my luck Ford and Reagan will pull a Jefferson/Adams late tomorrow night and leave me one brick shy of a full load. . .

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/217 "2003-12-31T00:36:34Z")

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My only problem with the Dead Pool is picking just 13.

It is so hard to decide.

Last year, I decided to leave off Penny Singleton of Blondie fame because, frankly, she was becoming the Queen Mum in my mind.

And what does she do…up and dies on me.  
Bah.

If I knew anything about doing lists like Cazzle has done, I’d offer to run it for 2005 and have more options and features ( porn, chicken and pie)

Oh well.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Xadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed655f/32.png) [@Dr\_Xadium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Xadium)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/218 "2003-12-31T01:37:49Z")

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Grr, it looks like my last attempt to post got eaten, please disregard this one if the other one shows up somehow)

1. Ronald Reagan (Obvious)
2. Momar Ghaddafi (Head of Libya, but not right in the head)
3. Yasser Arafat (Marked by so many)
4. John Inman (Mr. Humphries of “Are you Being Served”)
5. James Doohan (“Scotty” in Star Trek)
6. Nelson Mandela (Phillip K. Dick saw this in a vision, you know)
7. Jeff Hardy (Ex WWE performer, possibly high on more than just life)
8. Scott Steiner (WWE Wrestler, got to be on the Juice)
9. Eli Wallace (the Good the Bad and the Ugly, Master Ninja 1 & 2, I thought he was dead, found out he lived, that means he’s doomed)
10. Tom Baker (4th Doctor Who, goner if the pattern holds (weeps for Tom))
11. Morgan Freeman (Wildcard)
12. Clint Eastwood (Chuck Bronson is lonely up there in Action Hero Heaven)
13. Roger Moore (Ex 007 - SMERSH will finally get revenge)

I of course am counting on my infallible powers of fallibility to keep all these people alive and well for another year.

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**Author:** ![Santos\_L\_Halper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/santos_l_halper/32/1_2.png) [@Santos\_L\_Halper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santos_L_Halper)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/219 "2003-12-31T02:08:45Z")

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Well, I haven’t done so well with my '03 picks (although I’m still holding out hope my celebrities will pull a last minute rally :)) so I’m dumping most of them for '04:

1. Pope John Paul 2
2. Ronald Reagan
3. Nancy Reagan
4. Gary Busey
5. George Steinbrenner
6. Pete Seeger
7. Aaron Spelling
8. Jack Paar
9. Arthur C. Clarke
10. Osama Bin Laden
11. Rodney Dangerfield
12. Fidel Castro
13. Charleton Heston  
Eric

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2003, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/220 "2003-12-31T04:53:43Z")

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1. Ronald Reagan
2. Gerald Ford and
3. George H. W. Bush bad year for Republican former presidents
4. Quincy Jones
5. Johnny Carson
6. Fay Wray-starred in King Kong back ’33 surprised she is still living
7. Lady Bird Johnson
8. Kirk Douglas
9. Saddam Hussein
10. Glenn Ford
11. Rosa Parks
12. Carrie Fisher
13. Ron Santo- my favorite ballplayer growing up

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