# The Celebrity Death Pool 2004 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** death-pool\ **Created:** [December 1, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359 "2003-12-01T22:29:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/281 "2004-01-07T20:11:04Z")
And we have scorers! Congratulations to **Angel Heart** **Caricci** **Mullinator** and **zoog** - with 41 points! They will share the Opening Kickoff Award for first dead celebrity! Whoo-hoo! ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/282 "2004-01-07T20:37:22Z")
How’d they all get 41 points already? For Tug McGraw? ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/283 "2004-01-07T20:39:22Z")
Yes, for Tug McGraw. Should have specified that. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/284 "2004-01-07T21:07:08Z")
Okay, folks, I have to jump in here as Lord High Executioner and make some clarifications here: Per Rule #9, no one can make changes to their lists after Dec. 31st, and if you have more than 13 valid picks, I’m going with the first 13 names you submitted. **ArchitectChore** and **Mac Guffin** both submitted 14 names. **Mac Guffin** , I am using Michael Jackson as your first pick and losing Ed McMahon. **ArchitectChore** , I am keeping Muhammad Ali and dropping Jay-Z. I know, I’m just mean that way. 😉 Re anyone who picked “Barbara Bush”: I am going to assume you meant the former First Lady, **not** the granddaughter of the former First Lady, because you would have specified the younger Bush. FYI, I do have a hard copy of everybody’s submissions and changes, and I am going to make my own master list for my own reference, although I will not post it here (too long, and not necessary). Many, many thanks to **cazzle** and **sunfish** for the time and effort they have contributed to this year’s game. I would not be aware of some of these issues without you! ---
**Author:** ![sunfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sunfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunfish)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/285 "2004-01-11T18:59:02Z")
Okay, I’m nearly done with the final corrected master list, which includes corrections to the lists for **cadolphin, Flymaster** and **t-keela**. Sorry to have missed those earlier. I’m also largely finished compiling a reference list of birthdays for all the celebs (thank God for the IMDb! 😉 ) and will post it later too. If the date listed doesn’t look right for the person you had in mind, please let me know. Note on the b-days: I wasn’t able to find a DOB for everyone. In those cases where I was able to calculate a year of birth from an age reference, the DOB reads e.g. “? 1955” to indicate the lack of an available birth date. For a couple of celebs the year of birth is unclear or unknown; these are labeled e.g. “10 June 1910 (est.).” **a35362** , I need a ruling from you. In the process of going through the list again, I found 3 possible mistakes. Is it too late to fix these entries? - **Dragon Phoenix** - lists J.P. Montero, Formula 1 driver. There is no J.P. Montero, but there is a J.P. Montoya. - **Royal Nonesuch** - lists Richard Ebert. Should this be Roger Ebert? - **Happy Leddervedder** - lists William H. Gacy. Should this be William H. Macy? Lastly, a clarification from **Mr. Babbington** - You listed Zhang Zemin. Are you referring to Jiang Zemin, president of China? ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/286 "2004-01-12T00:24:46Z")
Yes, I think these are acceptable, as long as we get clarifications _before_ someone dies (“Oh, but I _meant_ to say…”). Thank you for catching these. I don’t always recognize the names, especially musicians and sports figures. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/287 "2004-01-13T18:20:08Z")
> [@Menocchio](#): > > Right, so Saddam, if executed, doesn’t count even if I bet on him before he was sentenced? > > If so, I change to Vladimir Putin. **Menocchio** , I still don’t know if you want Saddam or Putin on your list. Please let me know. ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/288 "2004-01-16T16:25:54Z")
Did anyone pick Olivia Goldsmith (never heard of her myself…) [link](http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/8630309?source=Evening%20Standard) ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/289 "2004-01-16T21:14:49Z")
Oh dear. Uta Hagen, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/290 "2004-01-16T21:21:38Z")
D’oh! [Link.](http://www.playbill.com/news/article/83806.html) ---
**Author:** ![sunfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sunfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunfish)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/291 "2004-01-16T22:19:31Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > Oh dear. Uta Hagen, anyone? **Sternvogel** had Uta Hagen. No one had Olivia Goldsmith. Updated list will be posted this weekend, whether or not I hear from folks ( **Royal nonesuch, Happy Leddervedder, Menocchio** ) who still have questions about their lists! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/292 "2004-01-17T00:00:47Z")
How about [Harold Shipman](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3391871.stm)? Anyone have him? ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/293 "2004-01-17T00:59:31Z")
With the death of Uta Hagen, **Sternvogel** has 16 points…and…is in _second place!_ Whoo-hoo! No, nobody picked scary killer doctor Harold Shipman. ---
**Author:** ![SandyHook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@SandyHook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SandyHook)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/294 "2004-01-17T01:17:50Z")
I must be really good at this game. Last year I ended up with 73 points and was tied for 5th place. So far this year I’m tied for 6th. ---
**Author:** ![BIH\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BIH\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIH_Boy)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/295 "2004-01-23T15:37:48Z")
I assume I am far far too late to change my Bob Monkhouse, who died just before the new year to someone else? I was away on vacation and then when I got back to work the internet server was broken and then the Straight Dope forum wouldn’t let me in for about 2 weeks, kept crashing. Go on let me change him to something random, someone that in all likelyhood won’t die. Someone like Jay Leno. No? Damn. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/296 "2004-01-23T18:13:58Z")
So, no one had Ann Miller? ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/297 "2004-01-23T18:31:40Z")
Or Bob Keeshan (Captain Kangaroo)? ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/298 "2004-01-23T20:05:43Z")
The [Captain](http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/23/obit.kangaroo/index.html)has lost a spring in his step. A search has him in the 2003 pool. This pool as well, but that my be just vunderbobs mention. I’ll dive in for the search. ---
**Author:** ![sunfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sunfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunfish)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/299 "2004-01-23T20:22:00Z")
No one had Bob Keeshan in this year’s pool. No Ann Miller either. The updated lists are posted starting [here](http://home.earthlink.net/~sunfish9n/SDMB/deathpool.htm) (links at bottom of page). ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/300 "2004-01-23T21:40:15Z")
Nobody picked Noble Willingham, Ann Miller, or Bob Keeshan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359.md?page=16)