# The Celebrity Death Pool 2004

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359 "2003-12-01T22:29:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Horseflesh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horseflesh/32/7502_2.png) [@Horseflesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horseflesh)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/21 "2003-12-02T07:23:59Z")

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Whups, the Queen did kick the crown last year, didn’t she? Okay, revised list:

HOPEFULS

1. Lee Boyd Malvo (since his trial isn’t over yet does it count if he gets the death penalty? I’ll pick him anyway, prison justice can be harsh.)
2. Saddam Hussein
3. Fred Phelps

YA PLAY WITH FIRE…  
4. Andrew Fastow (Enron)  
5. Michael Kopper (Enron)  
6. David Myers (Worldcom)  
7. Dennis Kozlowski (Tyco)  
8. Mark Swartz (Tyco)

FEAR THE REAPER  
9. Ronald Reagan  
10. Martin Landau

RANDOM PICKS  
11. Sean Connery  
12. Mary Tyler Moore  
13. Carol Burnett

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**Author:** ![Gmork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f19dbf/32.png) [@Gmork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gmork)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/22 "2003-12-02T08:27:16Z")

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I’ve not done one of these for years…

1. Derek Fowlds
2. Ian Richardson
3. Charlton Heston
4. Tom Baker
5. Maggie Smith
6. J.D. Salinger
7. Peter O’Toole
8. Bud Tingwell (Aust. personality)
9. Paul McCartney
10. Christopher Lee

And to get in a few of the common ones…

1. Pope John Paul II
2. Osama Bin Laden
3. Michael Jackson

I’d like to have picked something, but I’d actually rather not see a lot of these people die! 'Cepting a few…😉

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/23 "2003-12-02T08:32:15Z")

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Hmm. I think Wacko Jacko tops my list. I figure he’ll do a murder- suicide thing with those kids of his.

Let’s see.

Louie Anderson  
Da Pope  
Don Knotts  
Joe Piscopo  
Abe Vigoda  
Eddy Albert —(Greeeen acres is the place to beeee!)  
B.B. King  
Henry Kissinger  
Bob Barker  
Ernest Borgnine  
Rodney Dangerfield  
Carl Reiner  
Ed McMahon

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**Author:** ![Saitou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Saitou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saitou)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/24 "2003-12-02T09:24:48Z")

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1. Arthur C. Clarke
2. Peter Ustinov
3. Eli Wallach
4. Boris Yeltsin
5. Harry Morgan
6. Richard Pryor
7. Ray Bradbury
8. Arthur Miller
9. Kirk Douglas
10. James Doohan
11. Gene Wilder
12. Richard Attenborough
13. Estelle Getty

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/25 "2003-12-02T09:29:25Z")

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1. Michael Jackson (Not sure anymore )
2. Clint Eastwood (Actor)
3. Don Williams (Country singer)
4. Margaret Thatcher (Former UK PM)
5. Larry King (TV Show host)
6. Bob Barker (Game Show host)
7. Robin Williams (Comedian/Actor)
8. Dick Francis (Writer)
9. Queen Elizabeth II (Royalty)
10. Ronald Reagan (Actor/Politician)
11. Billy Graham (Actor/Evangelist)
12. George Jones (Country Singer)
13. Dan Rather (News Anchor)

Well, this is easy, just put up last years.

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**Author:** ![SJSB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@SJSB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SJSB)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/26 "2003-12-02T12:41:29Z")

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I’d just like to point out that Queen Elizabeth II is very much alive and kicking and doing her crazy thang.  
Her _mother_ kicked the bucket.

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**Author:** ![BIH\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BIH\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIH_Boy)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/27 "2003-12-02T13:28:52Z")

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1. George Best (alcoholic ex-footballer)
2. Pope JP2 (shaky man of god)
3. Bob Monkhouse (Brit quiz show legend)
4. Boris Yeltsin (vodka soaked ruskie)
5. Ronald Reagan (shaky ex-prez)
6. Luciano Pavarotti (operatic fatty)
7. Muhammad Ali (shaky ex-pugilist)
8. Ronnie Biggs (train robber, diamond geezer)
9. Richard Pryor (comedy legend)  
10.Charlton Heston (moneky hating gun nut)  
11.Courtney Love (drug binging pop star)  
12.Jack Nicholson (hollywood legend)  
13.Stephen King (horror genius)

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/28 "2003-12-02T14:17:01Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by fruitbat \*  
> \*\*I have been waiting for this all year.  
> BUSINESS  
> 10. Roy Disney  
> 11. Sam Walton
> 
> As with everything I like the longshots. \*\*

Sam Walton’s been dead for a while… (I’m thinking of the WallyWorld founder)

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/29 "2003-12-02T14:32:11Z")

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Repeating some from my list last year…

1. Muhammed Ali (sports figure)
2. Julia Child (chef)
3. Kirk Douglas (actor)
4. Jim McKay (sportscaster)
5. Estelle Getty (actress)
6. Ronald Reagan (former President, actor)
7. Jerry Lewis (comedian)
8. Zsa Zsa Gabor (actress)
9. Gavin McLeod (Love Boat captain)
10. Rodney Dangerfield (comedian)
11. Diahann Carroll (actress)
12. Mary Tyler Moore (actress)
13. Norman Lear (TV Executive)

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/30 "2003-12-02T14:34:18Z")

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I love this tradition. I guess **graceland** gets 2003’s “Inside Track With the Grim Reaper” for picking John Ritter.

Nobody on my list died yet. Unless December is very unkind to the current cast of “Friends” ex-ABBA members, presidents named “Bush” and Stephen King, I’m nothing this year.

Now, for 2004:

1. Roy Horn
2. George Herbert Walker Bush
3. George W. Bush
4. Ronald Reagen
5. Andrew Lloyd Webber
6. Julian Lloyd Webber
7. Stephen King
8. Michael Jackson
9. Prince William
10. Prince Edward
11. Prince Charles
12. Prince Andrew
13. Prince Phillip

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/31 "2003-12-02T14:35:25Z")

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I just want to add, I predict that in 2005 there is going to be a huge run on the Olsen twins and Charlotte Church.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/32 "2003-12-02T14:46:45Z")

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First timer submitting:

1. Mike Wallace (of 60 Minutes)
2. Morley Safer (ditto)
3. Yassir Arafat
4. Paris Hilton
5. Jerry Lee Lewis
6. Sparky Anderson
7. Larry Hagman
8. Maggie Smith
9. Leon Askin (Gen. Burkholder on _Hogan’s Heroes_
10. Rosa Parks
11. Olivia De Havilland
12. Buzz Aldrin
13. Pope John Paul

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/33 "2003-12-02T14:51:35Z")

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Well, I didn’t do too well last year, and goodness knows the celebs have been dropping like the plague’s in town. So let’s see if I can be the Angel of Death for 2004. \<reverberating evil laughter\>

1. Pope JP II (kinda obligatory at this point)
2. Tony Randall (old)
3. Rosa Parks (really old)
4. Shirley Temple (old)
5. Glenn Ford (old)
6. Ronald Reagan (old and terminally ill)
7. Harvey Korman (old and washed up)
8. Saddam Hussein (one can hope, can’t one?)
9. John Goodman (obese and middle-aged)
10. Scott Weiland (washed up junkie)
11. Larry Kramer (HIV+ writer and activist)
12. Jack Williamson (\>90 SF author)

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**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/34 "2003-12-02T14:55:13Z")

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1. Charlton Heston
2. Ronald Reagan
3. Johnny Carson
4. Billy Graham
5. Lady Bird Johnson
6. Estelle Getty
7. Donna Douglas
8. Tony Randall
9. Ellen Burstyn
10. Tony Curtis
11. Debbie Reynolds
12. Walter Cronkite  
and, last but not least…
13. Pope John Paul II

(Do any of us expect him to live out the year??)

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**Author:** ![smam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/46a35a/32.png) [@smam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smam)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/35 "2003-12-02T14:57:36Z")

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Ok, looks like I am going with all my picks from last year. Honestly I don’t ask for much from my celebrities but hopefully they will see their way to giving a little back this year.

1. Peter Ustinov (actor/writer) – Alive. Born April 16, 1921.

2. Paul Newman (philanthropist/actor/race car driver) – Alive. Born January 26, 1925.

3. Keith Richards (Rolling Stone) – Alive. Born December 18, 1943.

4. Osama Bin Laden (terrorist/human stalagmite)

5. Doris Day (actress) – Alive. Born April 3, 1924.

6. Marlon Brando (actor) – Alive. Born April 3, 1924.

7. Eli Wallach (actor) – Alive. Born December 7, 1915. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. (My fave film ever)

8. John Kenneth Galbraith (economist) – Alive. Born October 15, 1908.

9. Pierre Cardin Alive. Born July 6, 1922.

10. Wilson “Bob” Tucker (writer) – Alive. Born November 23, 1914.

11. John Travolta (actor/lear jet flying fancy-boy)

12. Les Paul (guitar legend) – Alive. Born June 9, 1915.

13. Luciano Pavarotti (opera star/young wife) – Alive. Born October 12, 1935.  
My cite for these is the [Dead Peoples Server](http://www.dpsinfo.com/dps/index.html) .  
Mwah ha ha ha ha, may God have mercy upon their souls.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/36 "2003-12-02T15:00:08Z")

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Well, I didn’t do too well last year, and goodness knows the celebs have been dropping like the plague’s in town. So let’s see if I can be the Angel of Death for 2004. \<reverberating evil laughter\>  
13. Al Lewis (Grandpa Munster)  
12. Luise Rainier (1937 Academy Award winner)  
11. RuPaul  
10. Pope JP II (kinda obligatory at this point)  
9. Tony Randall (old)  
8. Rosa Parks (really old)  
7. Shirley Temple (old)  
6. Glenn Ford (old)  
5. Ronald Reagan (old and terminally ill)  
6. Harvey Korman (old and washed up)  
5. Saddam Hussein (one can hope, can’t one?)  
4. John Goodman (obese and middle-aged)  
3. Scott Weiland (washed up junkie)  
2. Larry Kramer (HIV+ writer and activist)

1. Jack Williamson (\>90 SF author)

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/37 "2003-12-02T15:20:07Z")

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OK, here are my picks for 2004:

[ul]  
[li]John Paul II[/li][li]Ronald Reagan[/li][li]Princess Julianna (formerly Queen Julianna of the Netherlands)[/li][li]Eddie Albert (_Green Acres_)[/li][li]Art Linkletter (age does the darnedest things!)[/li][li]Thurl Ravenscroft (voice of Tony the Tiger)[/li][li]Ricardo Montalban (_“From Hell’s heart, I stab at thee…”_)[/li][li]Max Schmelling[/li][li]Julia Child[/li][li]Archibald Cox[/li][li]Betty Ford[/li][li]Mickey Spillane[/li][li]Abigail Van Buren[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/38 "2003-12-02T15:30:37Z")

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**gobear** , you get three more names.

**fruitbat** , as pointed out above, Sam Walton is already dead. Gimme another name.

**Horseflesh** , as pointed out above, The Queen Mother is already dead but Queen Elizabeth II is still a valid pick. Which names shall I go with?

A big **welcome** to our newcomers, and thanks for joining our morbid little game!

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/39 "2003-12-02T15:32:04Z")

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Oh, okay **gobear** , I gotcha. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/40 "2003-12-02T15:36:32Z")

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Okay – not enough points on Reagan, but I’ll bite on the Pope.

Here’s the list:  
Carol Channing  
Walter Cronkite  
Rodney Dangerfield  
Jerry Lewis  
John Paul II  
Prince Phillip  
Andy Rooney  
Tippi Hedren  
Gore Vidal  
Claus Von Bulow  
Mike Wallace  
Esther Williams  
Jonathan Winters

[insert usual disclaimer, wish none of them ill, blah blah blah…]

I _think_ they’re all still alive…

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