# The Celebrity Death Pool 2004

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359 "2003-12-01T22:29:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/121 "2003-12-12T20:18:00Z")

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Crap, I’m going to be difficult.

Change #8 to:

1. Roy Horn (lion food)

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/122 "2003-12-12T20:30:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by PhiloVance \*  
> \*\*Haven’t picked yet, ewwww, this is a yicky thread. 😉
> 
> I thought Kirk Douglas already died, or maybe that was Burt Lancaster?
> 
> Noticed quite a few people picked Whitney Houston. She isn’t that old, is she. What is she, a drug addict? Curious as I don’t follow the celebs too much. Thanks. \*\*

Kirk Douglas is still kicking along, and according to IMDB, has two film credits for 2003. One of them was It Runs In The Family with his son Michael, ex wife and grandson. According to [www.DeadOrAlive.org](http://www.DeadOrAlive.org), Burt Lancaster died in 1994 at the age of 80.

Whitney Houston has had a turbulent time recently. Not only is she rumored to be a crack addict, but just a few days ago her husband was charged with battery after he apparently hit her.

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/123 "2003-12-12T20:50:24Z")

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Siegfried Fishbacher  
Prince Philip  
Louie Anderson  
Carol Channing  
Pope John Paul II  
Jimmy Carter  
Meat Loaf  
Chuck Berry  
Rudy Giuliani  
Tug McGraw  
Yoko Ono  
Diana Ross  
Frank Gifford

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**Author:** ![Stinkum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Stinkum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stinkum)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/124 "2003-12-13T06:11:37Z")

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Here goes. I didn’t have much luck last year with my list (tho’ the people on it were quite lucky).

1. Jerry Lee Lewis (aka “The Killer”)
2. Ronald Reagan
3. John Goodman
4. Liza Minelli
5. Noam Chomsky
6. Li’l Kim
7. Prince Philip of England
8. Larry King
9. Dick Van Dyke
10. Lawrence Ferlinghetti (Beat poet)
11. Gerald Ford
12. Jeff Corwin (Crikey!)
13. Pope John Paul II

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**Author:** ![Brad\_Pittiful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@Brad\_Pittiful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brad_Pittiful)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/125 "2003-12-13T18:00:06Z")

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01 - Ronald Reagan  
02 - Nancy Reagan  
03 - Sid Cesar  
04 - Dom DeLuise  
05 - Tara Reid  
06 - Granda Pa Al Lewis  
07 - Ted Kennedy  
08 - Walter Cronkite  
09 - Art Linkletter  
10 - Keith Richards  
11 - Ronny Wood  
12 - Colin Farrell  
13 - Bea Arthur

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/126 "2003-12-14T12:37:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by a35362 \*  
> \*\*Argghhh, **Sublight** , that’s one of those questions that makes me grind my teeth. I want evidence that he actually died in calendar year 2004. Of course, we may find his body (or remains) and be unable to determine exactly _when_ he died.
> 
> If his death is announced in 2004 and they just can’t determine when he died, I say anyone who’s picked him for 2004 should be given the benefit of the doubt and be awarded the points.
> 
> And then we celebrate! \*\*

Well, we may not have to worry about this, since it appears at the moment that he’s been captured alive.

Hmm… his chances of dying unexpectedly in custody are probably pretty slim… I may be revising my list.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/127 "2003-12-14T15:59:47Z")

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Yeah, remember that if Saddam is executed, he doesn’t count. He’d have to commit suicide, or get killed in some other way. If he’s going to commit suicide, I’d expect that he’ll already have taken some sort of slow-acting poison that’ll kill him witihn the next few days. Otherwise, he’s probably a long shot now.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/128 "2003-12-14T17:42:09Z")

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Right, so Saddam, if executed, doesn’t count even if I bet on him before he was sentenced?

If so, I change to Vladimir Putin.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/129 "2003-12-14T17:50:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by a35362 \*  
> **7. Persons under sentence of death will be valid for scoring points only if they die by means other than official execution.**

So pray that Mohammed al-Ruby busts a cap onto Saddam.

Or change your pick before New Years 🙂

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/130 "2003-12-15T21:05:00Z")

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Okay, I’m changing my _own_ list:

I’m taking Saddam Hussein off

and putting Steve Irwin (the “Crocodile Hunter”) on.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/131 "2003-12-15T21:45:08Z")

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OK, I’m removing Saddam and substituting Mickey Rooney.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/132 "2003-12-16T04:03:48Z")

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Well, since Saddam now seems to have a better chance of surviving 2004 than I do, I’m taking him off the list and replacing him with my first substitute.

Revised list:

1. Bea Arthur
2. Kirk Douglas
3. Roger Moore
4. Cicely Tyson
5. Harry Dean Stanton
6. Jean Stapleton
7. Conrad Bain (“Mr. Drummond” from Diffrent Strokes)
8. Russell Johnson (“The Professor” from Gilligan’s Island)
9. Howard Hesseman
10. Gavin MacLeod
11. Jim Nabors
12. Darryl Strawberry
13. Ronald Reagan

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**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/133 "2003-12-16T13:52:03Z")

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I am removing Saddam and replacing with Andy Rooney.

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**Author:** ![Frumious\_Bandersnatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Frumious\_Bandersnatch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frumious_Bandersnatch)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2003, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/134 "2003-12-16T14:38:16Z")

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I’m a virgin at this game, but here goes…

1. Ronald Reagan
2. Sharon Osbourne
3. Mike Wallace
4. Jerry Lewis
5. Betty Ford
6. Gerald Ford
7. Boris Yeltzin
8. David Crosby
9. Larry King
10. Richard Pryor
11. John Goodman
12. John Lee Malvo
13. Helmut Kohl

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/135 "2003-12-16T15:07:36Z")

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Just remember, **Frumious Bandersnatch** , that Malvo has to die in some way other than state-sanctioned execution in order to be worth any points. Granted, he’s probably got a decent chance of committing suicide or getting whacked.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2003, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/136 "2003-12-16T15:23:28Z")

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“Wouldn’t you like to see that?” category

1. Saddam Hussein
2. Osama bin Laden
3. Kim Jong-Il

Test Match Special  
4. Freddie Trueman  
5. Trevor Bailey  
6. Geoffrey Boycott

Too Fast to Live, Too Crazy to Die  
7. Ozzy Osbourne (cheers, **dwc1970**!)  
8. Glen Campbell  
9. Nick Nolte

Political Graveyard  
10. Gerald Ford  
11. Ted Heath

The Gimme Putt  
12. Pope John Paul II

The Random Celebrity  
13. Billy Bob Thornton

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2003, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/137 "2003-12-16T15:25:27Z")

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Oh, darn, hadn’t seen Rule #7. Change my 1. (Saddam Hussein) to Jean-Claude Duvalier.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/138 "2003-12-16T15:47:07Z")

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Heh. Thank God they caught the bastard before the deadline, or a lot of us would have a useless name sitting on our lists for the whole year. How evil can you get??

#5: Saddam Hussein–please replace with Al Lewis (actor and politician, and from recent interviews still a hell of a guy. But lookin’ frail).

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**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2003, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/139 "2003-12-16T17:31:10Z")

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1. Aileen Getty (artist – AIDS activist)
2. Billy Graham
3. Darryl Strawberry
4. David Hockney (artist)
5. Elizabeth Taylor
6. Hunter S. Thompson (writer)
7. Ladybird Johnson
8. Larry Clark (photographer - director)
9. Patsy Ramsey (mom of Jon Benet)
10. Pope John Paul II
11. Prince Rainier
12. Ronald Reagan
13. Zsa Zsa Gabor

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2003, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/140 "2003-12-16T17:38:36Z")

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Okey dokey, here we go:

1. Queen Elizabeth II
2. Ernest Borgnine
3. Ron Jeremy
4. Rip Torn
5. Olivia DeHaviland
6. Luise Rainer
7. Margot Kidder
8. Senator Edward Kennedy
9. Helen Thomas
10. Muhammad Ali
11. Keith Richards
12. Luciano Pavarotti
13. Kurt Vonnegut

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