# The Celebrity Death Pool 2005

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574 "2004-12-01T21:22:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![IrreverentTone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@IrreverentTone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IrreverentTone)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2004, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/221 "2004-12-26T21:29:17Z")

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1. Sandra Dee
2. Prince Rainier III of Monaco
3. Wilford Brimley
4. William H. Rehnquist
5. Pope John Paul II
6. Donald Trump
7. Scott Hamilton
8. James Earl Carter, Jr.
9. Elizabeth Taylor
10. Estelle Getty
11. James Doohan
12. Charlton Heston
13. Tammy Faye Bakker Messner

Alternate- Annette Funicello

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/222 "2004-12-27T00:30:16Z")

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Hey!  
Some of you are peeking at my top secret DP2005 notes. I see a few of _my_ picks here.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/223 "2004-12-27T02:52:19Z")

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I had my best year last time with a political theme, so:

Gerald Ford  
Mikhail Gorbachev  
Pope John Paul II  
Kim Jong-il  
Henry Kissinger  
George McGovern  
Hosni Mubarak  
Pervez Musharraf  
Prince Phillip  
Augusto Pinochet  
Prince Rainier III  
Margaret Thatcher  
Boris Yeltsin

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**Author:** ![Sevo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sevo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevo)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/224 "2004-12-27T14:58:56Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> I had my best year last time with a political theme, so:  
> Kim Jong-il

I’m wooooneweeey. Soooo Wooooneweeeey…

I’ve been lurking for days here, watching others post, making my own evil list, checking it twice, running the odds…but I must say Kim Jong-il is my favorite dark-horse candidate to date. If Team America doesn’t get him one of his own might.

And to those of you who picked Mary-Kate: shame on you. (Even though anorexia is like 40% mortality over 5 years and she’s worth tons of points… :eek: ) McCauley is another morbid but potentially high-yield bet. Either one of those two is worth 3 PJPII’s. So much to think about…

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/225 "2004-12-27T19:13:06Z")

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Well folks, you’re in luck. I’m heading up North for the New Year, to a cabin where even the most determined drunk driver would have a tough time taking me out. So here goes the much ballyhooed NurseCarmen Death-O-Matic[sup]TM[/sup]  
death list for 2005.  
**From my childhood:**

1.\*\* Nurse Carmen.\*\*  
[ul]Not _that_ NurseCarmen silly! No, my beloved namesake, local childhood celeb [Ms. Mary Davies Orfield](http://www.pavekmuseum.org/pix/pavek/mary1975.jpg). As much as it pains me, I aint getting’ any younger, and neither is the original nurse, at [78](http://www.bradenton.com/mld/twincities/entertainment/7577012.htm).[/ul]

2.\*\* Jan Michael Vincent.\*\*  
[ul]Who on earth watched [Airwolf](http://www.80snostalgia.com/classictv/airwolf/) you ask? Folks who were 14 in 1982, that’s who. And that’s me. That young chisled good looking star of the show was the idylic of all what I wanted to become. Sadly, I’ve come pretty close. Jan is now world famous for his alcohol consumtion. upon review, GWVet has already brought up JMV, good job! [/ul]

**The Tall:**

3.\*\* Matthew McGrory.\*\*  
[ul]Giant from the movie [Big Fish](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319061/). There is one way that people who suffer from Giantism stop growing. This is how.[/ul]

**The Geralds:**

4.\*\* Jerry Maren (Gerald Marenghi).\*\*  
[ul]Who knew this Wizard of Oz munchkin was still alive and kicking? He’s off to meet the rest of the lollypop league.[/ul]

5.\*\* Geraldine Ferraro.\*\*  
[ul]Diagnosed with [multiple myeloma](http://rarediseases.about.com/od/rarediseases1/a/062001.htm) in 1998, she’s already bucking the 5 year average survival rate. Even in death, she’s better suited to be president than _someone_ I won’t mention.[/ul]

**The Skinny:**

6.\*\* Allegra Beck Versace.\*\*  
[ul]You can never be too rich, but you _can_ be too thin, as this Versace heiress is [dying](http://www.anorexicweb.com/InsidetheFridge/fallenangels.html) to prove. [/ul]

**The rest:** _That’s it folks, no more earth shattering picks, lotta build up for nothin, huh?_

7.\*\* Justice Rhenquist.\*\*  
[ul]Gotta get me some _easy_ points.[/ul]

8.\*\* Liz Taylor.\*\*  
[ul]She makes it easy by telling the press just how [messed up](http://in.news.yahoo.com/041201/139/2i7iv.html) she is, conveniently at dead pool picking time.[/ul]

9.\*\* Scotty. (James Doohan)\*\*  
[ul]Looking rough. Looking worse than Captain Pike did just before he left for Talos IV.[/ul]

10.\*\* Annette Funicello.\*\*  
[ul]And I thought this pick would be a coup. You people are too good.[/ul]

11.\*\* Dick Clark.\*\*  
[ul]It’s looking like the next ball Dick sees dropping will be the one that shows oxygen flow next to his hospital bed.[/ul]

6.\*\* Stephen Hawking.\*\*  
[ul]Speaking of Captain Pike…[/ul]

6.\*\* Charlton Heston.\*\*  
[ul]Hawking and Heston, my two carry overs from last year. Don’t make me scream “Damn you all to hellllll” to the skies Chuck.[/ul]  
Alternate.\*\* Billy Graham.\*\*  
[ul]I don’t have a strong feel for this one, just hoping to make the world a better place.[/ul]

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/226 "2004-12-27T19:54:34Z")

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1. Eunice Kennedy Shriver
2. Studs Terkel
3. Betty Ford
4. Eddie Van Halen
5. Terri Schiavo
6. Joe Namath
7. Nelson Mandela
8. Johnny Carson
9. Leonard Nimoy
10. Aretha Franklin
11. John Updike
12. Annette Funicello
13. Lena Horne

A well-rounded list, if a bit weighted to the entertaiment industry.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Babbington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Mr.Babbington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Babbington)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/227 "2004-12-27T19:55:42Z")

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1. Peter O’Toole
2. Pope John Paul II
3. Margaret Thatcher
4. Johnny Carson
5. Bob Barker (I don’t think Botox works on the liver)
6. Bea Arthur
7. William Daniels (St. Elsewhere creep)
8. William Rhenquist
9. Eva Marie Saint
10. Hugh Downs
11. Dick Clark
12. Conrad Bain (Mr. Drummond’s gotta die soon)
13. Stacy Keach

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**Author:** ![Vevila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@Vevila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vevila)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/228 "2004-12-27T20:13:19Z")

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I would like to make a substitution:  
please replace my number 11 pick, J.D. Salinger, with Karla Homolka (horrid Canadian serial killer.)

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/229 "2004-12-27T20:30:36Z")

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> [@Vevila](#):
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> Karla Homolka (horrid Canadian serial killer.)

Interestingly, Karla’s full prison sentence expires on July 6, 2005.

Please consider my picks as numbered 12 for Stephen Hawking, and 666 for Heston. Oops. I mean 13.

and replace “embodiment” for the made up word “idylic”.

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**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/230 "2004-12-27T21:03:10Z")

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Time to stop agonizing and post. 13, right?

[ul][li]Mary Kate Olsen - I was going to say “an Olsen twin” but that probably wouldn’t be allowed. Crank binge Note to self: excellent band name[/li][li]Queen Elizabeth - Corgi mauling[/li][li]Horatio Saanz - John Belushi curse He really doesn’t have a choice. [/li][li]Burt Reynolds - Toupee fire[/li][li]Chris Rock - Beaten to death by cracker ass crackers who lack sense of humor[/li][li]Dick Clark - Crushed by Times Square new year’s ball[/li][li]Eric Idle - Crushed by 16 ton weight[/li][li]VP Dick Cheney - Ventilation failure in batcave[/li][li]Pope John Paul II - Stroke during Easer mass, not diagnosed until Pentecost[/li][li]David Letterman - Stupid pet trick gone horribly awry[/li][li]Teller - One of Gilette’s tricks gone pretty much as everyone expects[/li][li]Bruce Willis - Will go untreated for an auto accident and bleed to death because everyone assumes he’s just in makeup[/li][li]Leapy Lee - Impled by numerous little arrows[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/231 "2004-12-27T21:23:17Z")

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Well, that was worth the wait, **Nurse**. More a work of art than a death list.

I doubt anyone outside of the cities knows who Nurse Carmen is, but hey.

And as for…  
6. Allegra Beck Versace.

Good gawd! I’m not going to steal your pick, but man does she look bad!

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/232 "2004-12-27T21:32:58Z")

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Steal away. My alcohol consumption on New Years Eve means everyone benefits!

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**Author:** ![Purple\_Scottie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Purple\_Scottie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purple_Scottie)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/233 "2004-12-27T23:54:58Z")

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1. Don Knotts
2. Andy Griffith (It will be a sad year for Mayberry fans)
3. Holly Johnson (singer from Frankie Goes to Hollywood)
4. Michael J. Fox
5. Christopher Walken
6. Former President Jimmy Carter
7. Angela Lansbury
8. B.B. King
9. Jane Wyman
10. Pope John Paul
11. VP Dick Cheney
12. Former President Bill Clinton
13. Michael Jackson

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/234 "2004-12-28T02:19:40Z")

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Here we go again…

2005 picks:

James Doohan

Dan Fogleberg

Bob Newhart

Chief Justice Rehnquist

Gerald Ford

Barbara Bel Geddes

Art Linkletter

Dick Clark

Michael Jackson (the pop star, not the talk show host)

Gordon Hinckley (President, LDS Church)

Elizabeth Taylor

Eminem (Marshall Mathers)

Pope John Paul II

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**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2004, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/235 "2004-12-28T03:21:57Z")

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First timer here. What the hell.

1. Astronaut Jim Lovell
2. Polish crooner Bobby Vinton
3. Actor Ricardo Montalban
4. Country singer Loretta Lynn
5. Actor Richard Widmark
6. Actor Jack Palance
7. Wrestler Hulk Hogan
8. Liza Minelli (And I firther predict she’ll go before Liz Taylor)
9. Liz Taylor
10. Newscaster Walter Cronkite
11. Comedian Denis Leary
12. Former President Gerald Ford
13. Figure skater Brian Boitano

My wildcards:  
Actor Macauley Culkin  
Actress Doris Day  
Former First Lady Rosalind Carter

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2004, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/236 "2004-12-28T04:32:00Z")

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> [@LifeOnWry](#):
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> 1. Liza Minelli (And I firther predict she’ll go before Liz Taylor)

[You mightn’t be far wrong there](http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/27/minnelli.reut/index.html)

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**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/237 "2004-12-28T04:42:15Z")

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> [@cazzle](#):
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> [You mightn’t be far wrong there](http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/27/minnelli.reut/index.html)

Well, good heavens. Hope she makes it through the weekend.

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**Author:** ![psycat90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@psycat90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psycat90)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2004, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/238 "2004-12-28T06:12:58Z")

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Gary Busey  
Richard Pryor  
Nancy Reagan  
Pope John Paul II  
Elizabeth Taylor  
Michael Jackson  
Martha Stewart  
Fidel Castro  
Courtney Love  
Howard Stern  
Abe Vigoda  
Paul Newman  
Ricardo Mantalban

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**Author:** ![Trillionaire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Trillionaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trillionaire)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2004, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/239 "2004-12-28T06:37:42Z")

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Meatloaf  
Ringo Starr  
Pope John Paul 2  
Keith Richards  
Gerald Ford  
Sharon Osbourne  
Yogi Berra  
Phyllis Dilller  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Ed McMahon  
Pete Rose  
Charles Manson  
JD Salinger

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2004, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/240 "2004-12-28T12:20:18Z")

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I am far to lazy to search through this thread, but WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS: **Captain Lance Murdoch** AKA as the Angel of Death have you posted your picks yet?  
Also, is anyone else having a hard time deciding just 13 people who will expire this year? The agonizing is agonizing.

I thought fleetingly about running an Alternate Dead Pool List. Called " The Bridesmaid List" for a larger number (20 or so) so that we can all go into a frenzy over picking and have higher scores and get everyone into a necro-lather. It’s like crack, admit it. But, I would have no idea of even how to organize something like this. I mean I can’t get my VCR to stop flashing 12, let alone figure out how to do somethign like this on my computer. I am retarded. Yay me!

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