# The Celebrity Death Pool 2005

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574 "2004-12-01T21:22:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/381 "2005-01-06T00:05:30Z")

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> [@a35362](#):
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> I am still working on typing all the submissions into a file on a disk. Can anyone give me advice on how to set up a free website? I want to eventually have everyone’s picks posted somewhere so that everyone can see them. Someone else did it last year and I think it’s my responsibility…

**a35362** ,  
On Tuesday afternoons here at the office I usually have a few hours set aside where I babysit our system (a.k.a extremity twiddling time). I _used_ to tally the weekly Top 6@6 Polls from Cafe’ Society – but now that those threads were halted, I figured it would be fun to drop your pool data onto a spread sheet, alphabetize/concatenate it, and calculate some odds. If you want me to e-mail the file to you as a cross reference; just say so.

Some interesting 2005 Death Pool Facts[list=A]  
[li]There were **197 Dopers** who played[/li][li] **826 Different** ‘Celebrity’ Names were chosen[/li][li]The total number of selections was **2,557** (4 Dopers only selected 12 names).[/list][/li]  
About the Celebrities ‘Chosen’  
517 Selections Were Unique to One Poster (Received One Vote):  
Dan Ackroyd  
Don Adams  
Marvin Lee (Meatloaf) Aday  
Mark Addy  
Ben Affleck  
Clay Aiken  
Lou Albano  
Alan Alda  
Karras Alex  
Jason Alexander  
Abdul Aziz al-Hakim  
Ibrahim al-Jafari  
Woody Allen  
Kirstie Alley  
Ali Hassan (Chemical Ali) al-Majid  
Moqtada al-Sadr  
Grand Ayatollah al-Sistani  
Ghazi al-Yawer  
Ayman al-Zawahiri  
John Amos  
Louie Anderson  
Ursula Andress  
Maya Angelou  
Hopkins Anthony  
Franklin Aretha  
Jean-Bertrand Aristide  
Diego Armando  
James Arness  
Brooke Astor  
Jeffery (Ja Rule) Atkins  
Oksana Baiul  
Ralph Bakshi  
Paul Banke  
Christine Baranski  
Drew Barrymore  
Barbara Bel Geddes  
Andy Bell  
Tony Bennett  
Lloyd Bentsen  
Elizabeth Berkley  
Silvio Berlusconi  
Chuck Berry  
Max Biaggi  
Prince Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz al-Saud  
Robert Blake  
John Bloom  
Brian Boitano  
Tom Bosley  
Umberto Bossi  
Lucien Bouchard  
David Bowie  
Camilla Parker Bowles  
Peter Boyle  
Ed Bradley  
Ian Brady  
Sara Brady  
Richard Branson  
Lilian Jackson Braun  
Brian Brian  
Bobby Brown  
David Darnell (Young Buck) Brown  
Sylvia Browne  
Brunson Brunson  
Kobe Bryant  
Warren Buffett  
Vincent Bugliosi  
Eric Burdon  
Gary Burghoff  
Carol Burnett  
Stanley Kirk (MC Hammer) Burrell  
Kurt Busch  
Joey Buttafucco  
Michael Caine  
John Cale  
Jim Callaghan  
June Callwood  
Glen Cambell  
Jose Canseco  
Pierre Cardin  
Mariah Carey  
King Juan Carlos I Of Spain  
David Carradine  
Nick Carter  
Roslyn Carter  
Shawn (Jay-Z) Carter  
Dana Carvey  
Dick Cavett  
Jack Chalker  
Robert Chambers  
Bobby Charlton  
Hugo Chavez  
Don Cherry  
Jack Chick  
Tommy Chong  
Jean Chretien  
Charlotte Church  
Louise Veronica (Madonna) Ciccone  
Van Cliburn  
George Clooney  
Johnnie Cochran  
Gary Cole  
Joan Collins  
Chuck Colson  
Betty Comden  
Sean Connery  
General Lonsana Conte  
Jackie Cooper  
Irwin Corey  
Kenny Dalgleish  
Roger Daltry  
William Daniels  
Tony Danza  
David David Newell  
David David Rockefeller  
John Davidson  
Al Davis  
William B Davis  
Richard Dawson  
Dino De Laurentiis  
John Dean  
Bill Deedes  
Bruce Dern  
Rick Derringer  
Leonardo DiCaprio  
Jimmy (Little Jimmy) Dickens  
Bo Diddley  
Mike Ditka  
Bobby Doerr  
Placido Domingo  
Vincent D’Onofrio  
Art Donovan  
Ashanti Douglas  
Hugh Downs  
Frank Drake  
Shane Drury  
Kitty Dukakis  
Olympia Dukakis  
Brett Easton Ellis  
Harlan Ellison  
Melissa Etheridge  
Eunice Kennedy Shriver  
Morgan Faichild  
Mike Farrell  
Perry Farrell  
Kevin Federline  
Corey Feldman  
Maynard Ferguson  
Cecil Fielder  
Albert Finney  
Bobby Fischer  
Carrie Fisher  
Geraldine Fitzgerald  
Theo Fleury  
Calista Flockhart  
Lara Flynn Boyle  
Carl Fogerty  
Jared Fogle  
Joan Fontaine  
Michael Foot  
Andy (Viking) Fordham  
John Forsythe  
Larry Fortensky  
Bill France Jr  
Dick Francis  
Ace Frehley  
Milton Friedman  
Tito Fuentes  
Terry Funk  
Alphonso Gagliano  
John Galbraith  
John Garang  
Peter Garrett  
Uri Geller  
Gil Gerard  
Joe Gibbs  
Frank Gifford  
Newt Gingrich  
Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
John Glenn  
Crispin Glover  
Tracey Gold  
Dwight Gooden  
Robby Gordon  
Frank Gorshin  
Louis Gosset Jr  
Harold Gould  
Kelsey Grammer  
Farley Granger  
Günter Grass  
Kathryn Grayson  
Hubert Green  
Tom Green  
Joel Grey  
Merv Griffin  
Kenneth Griffith  
Bob Guccione  
Carl XIV Gustaf  
Steve Guttenberg  
Jürgen Habermas  
Rob Halford  
Tom Hanks  
Barret (Dr Demento) Hansen  
Emmylou Harris  
Youree Dell (Miss Cleo) Harris  
Deborah Harry  
Ray Harryhausen  
David Hasselhoff  
Cornell (Nelly) Haynes Jr  
Edward (Ted) Heath  
Ted Heath  
Anne Heche  
Tippi Hedren  
Leona Helmsley  
Lou Henson  
Don Herbert  
Howard Hesseman  
Paul (Bono) Hewson  
Sir Edmund Hillary  
Dustin Hoffman  
Lou Holtz  
Karla Homolka  
James Hong  
Dennis Hopper  
Lena Horne  
Bobby Hull  
E Howard Hunt  
Ian Huntley  
Hussein Hussein  
Lee Iacocca  
Eric Idle  
Don Imus  
John Inman  
George S Irving  
Jennifer (J Lo) J. Lo  
Jane Jacobs  
Jesse James  
Kevin James  
Ken Jennings  
Peter Jennings  
Ron Jeremy  
Steve Jobs  
Billy Joel  
Holly Johnson  
Jimmie Johnson  
Phillip Johnson  
Ollie Johnston  
Ben (Cooter) Jones  
Hank Jones  
Jerry Jones  
Mickey Jones  
Wynona Judd  
Mikhail Kalashnikov  
Frank Kameny  
Stacey Keach  
Garrison Keillor  
R(obert) Kelly  
Don Kent  
Deborah Kerr  
Graham Kerr  
Theresa Kerry  
Margot Kidder  
Evel Knievel  
Wayne Knight  
Harry Knowels  
Beyonce Knowles  
Ed Koch  
C. Everett Koop  
Ron Kovic  
Kris Kristofferson  
Emeril Lagasse  
Frankie Laine  
Jake LaMotta  
Dave (Squiggy) Lander  
Diane Lane  
Nathan Lane  
Artie Lange  
John Larroquette  
Martin Lawrence  
Kenneth Lay  
Denis Leary  
Christopher Lee  
Leapy Lee  
Madeline L’Engle  
Ed (Brutus The Barber Beefcake) Leslie  
Claude Lévi-Strauss  
Emmanuel Lewis  
Jerry Lee Lewis  
G. Gordon Liddy  
Jennifer (J Lo) Lopez  
Sophia Loren  
Tina Louise  
Jim Lovell  
Jeff Lynne  
Yo-Yo Ma  
Gavin MacLeod  
Bill Maher  
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi  
John Mahoney  
Rick Majerus  
Winnie Mandela  
Bernard Manning  
Wellington Mara  
Jerry Maren  
Bam Margera  
McPartland Marian  
Rose Marie  
Gabriel Garcia Marquez  
George Martin  
Steve Martin  
Peter Max  
Ralphie May  
Peter Mayhew  
Anne McCaffrey  
Shirley McClain  
Elizabeth McGovern  
George McGovern  
Shane McGowan  
Ali McGraw  
Matthew McGrory  
Mark McGwire  
Ian McKellen  
Vince McMahon Jr  
Jayne Meadows  
Sukarnoputri Megawati  
Allan Melvin  
Sir John Mills  
Mary Ann Mobley  
Art Modell  
Walter (Fritz) Mondale  
Sir Patrick Moore  
Robert Morgenthau  
Pat Morita  
Tommy Morrison  
Van Morrison  
Bill Moyers  
Yon Hyong Muk  
Ben Mulroney  
Frankie Muniz  
Rupert Murdoch  
Jan Murray  
Stan (The Man) Musial  
Jim Nabors  
Joe Namath  
Patricia Neil  
Noel Neill  
Leslie Neilson  
Bryon Nelson  
Prince Rogers (Formerly Known As) Nelson  
Edwin Newman  
Bert Newton  
Jack Nicholson  
Ivan Noble  
Nick Nolte  
Manuel Noriega  
Larry David Norman  
Oliver North  
Sandra Day O’Connor  
Shaquille O’Neal  
Mary Davies (Nurse Carmen) Orfield  
Annette O’Toole  
Frank Oz  
Joy Page  
Chris (King Kong Bundy) Pallies  
Geoffrey Palmer  
Bill Parcells  
Lawrence Kris (KRS-One) Parker  
Dolly Parton  
Joe Paterno  
Tatjan Patitz  
Floyd Patterson  
Les Paul  
Rhea Perlman  
Matthew Perry  
Joe Pesci  
Tom Petty  
Phil Brown  
Phil Spector  
Emo Philips  
Lafitt Pincay Jr  
Brad Pitt  
Jeremy Piven  
Ron(co) Popeil  
John Popper  
Jeff Probst  
Paul Prudhomme  
Colin Quinn  
Joyce Randolph  
Sally Jessy Raphael  
Dizzee Rascal  
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger  
Castro Raul  
Thurl Ravenscroft  
Anthony (Sir Mix-A-Lot) Ray  
Usher Raymond  
Sumner Redstone  
Lou Reed  
Della Reese  
Charles Nelson Reilly  
Anne Rice  
Nicole Ritchie  
Jake (The Snake) Roberts  
Pernell Roberts  
Louis Robichaud  
Anne Robinson  
Chris Robinson  
Bobby Robson  
Chris Rock  
Dennis Rodman  
Pete Rose  
David Lee Roth  
Mickey Rourke  
Louis Rukeyser  
Donald Rumsfeld  
Salman Rushdie  
Kurt Russell  
Fr Barry Ryan  
Winona Ryder  
Horatio Saanz  
Morley Safer  
Bob Saget  
Eva Marie Saint  
Yves Saint-Laurent Saint-Laurent  
Adam Sandler  
Randy (Macho Man) Savage  
Phyllis Schlafly  
Bo Schmbechler  
Daniel Schorr  
Arnold Schwarzenegger  
Barbara Ann Scott  
Gene Scott  
Allan (Bud) Selig  
General John Shalikashvili  
Ariel Sharon  
Rev Al Sharpton  
Rowsch Shaways  
Sidney Sheldon  
Robert Sargent Shriver Jr  
Robert Silverburg  
Gene Simmons  
Richard Simmons  
O J Simpson  
Irina Slutskaya  
Dean Smith  
Tommy Smothers  
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn  
Suzanne Somers  
Aaron Spelling  
Wendie Jo Sperber  
Mickey Spillane  
Brent Spiner  
Sylvester Stallone  
Harry Dean Stanton  
Scott Stapp  
Frances Sternhagen  
Martha Stewart  
Ben Stiller  
Jerry Stiller  
Steve Stills  
Michael Stipe  
James Stockdale  
Hank Stramm  
Barbara Streisand  
Andrew Sullivan  
Ethan Suplee  
Inga Swenson  
Loretta Swit  
Johnny Tapia  
Lawrence Taylor  
Raymond Joseph Teller  
Billy Bob Thornton  
Vern Troyer  
Wilson (Bob) Tucker  
Ike Turner  
Ted Turner  
Cicely Tyson  
Bob Uecker  
John Updike  
Steve Vai  
Wilmer Valderama  
Charles Van Doren  
Jerry Van Dyke  
Eddie Van Halen  
Robert (Vanilla Ice) Van Winkle  
Luther Vandross  
Ken Venturi  
Fay Vincent  
Bobby Vinton  
Claus Von Bulow  
Claude Vorilhon  
Lyle Waggoner  
Christopher Walken  
Mike Wallace  
John Waters  
Raquel Welch  
George Wendt  
Jason White  
James Whitmore  
Anson Williams  
Don Williams  
Esther Williams  
Ricky Williams  
Bruce Willis  
Ralph Wilson  
Henry Winkler  
Tom Wolfe  
John Wooden  
Tiger Woods  
Jane Wyatt  
Zakk Wylde  
Phanom (Tony Ja) Yeerum  
Burt Young  
Franco Zeffirelli  
Brian Zembic  
Jiang Zemin  
Catherine Zeta-Jones  
Efrem Zimbalist Jr  
Rob Zombie

…More DP05 Facts In Next Post

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**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/382 "2005-01-06T00:12:34Z")

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Celebrities Selected By Ten Or More (Out Of 197) Dopers:[ol]  
[li]George H W Bush 10[/li][li]Macaulay Culkin 10[/li][li]Whitney Houston 10[/li][li]Anna Nichole Smith 10[/li][li]Boris Yeltsin 10[/li][li]Nelson Mandela 11[/li][li]Wilford Brimley 12[/li][li]Annette Funicello 12[/li][li]Liza Minelli 12[/li][li]Prince Phillip Mountbatten (Duke of Edinburgh) 12[/li][li]Scott Peterson 12[/li][li]Mickey Rooney 12[/li][li]Billy Graham 14[/li][li]B.B. (Riley Blues Boy) King 14[/li][li]Abe Vigoda 14[/li][li]Tammy Faye Bakker-Messner 15[/li][li]Jimmy (James) Earl Carter 15[/li][li]John Goodman 15[/li][li]Viktor Yushchenko 15[/li][li]Bob Barker 16[/li][li]Stephen Hawking 16[/li][li]Keith Richards 17[/li][li]Queen Elizabeth Windsor II (Queen of England) 17[/li][li]Kirk Douglas 18[/li][li]Nancy Reagan 19[/li][li]Osama Bin Laden 20[/li][li]Johnny Carson 20[/li][li]Charlton Heston 20[/li][li]Ladybird (Claudia Alta Taylor) Johnson 20[/li][li]Jerry Jerry Lewis 21[/li][li]Muhammed Ali 23[/li][li]Walter Cronkite 23[/li][li]Dick Cheney 24[/li][li]Mary-Kate Olsen 25[/li][li]Rosa Parks 25[/li][li]Michael Jackson 26[/li][li]Margaret Thatcher 33[/li][li]Dick Clark 34[/li][li]Richard Pryor 35[/li][li]James (Scotty) Doohan 37[/li][li]Fidel Castro 44[/li][li]Courtney Love 47[/li][li]Elizabeth Taylor 55[/li][li]Gerald R Ford 59[/li][li]William H Rehnquist 70[/li]Pope John Paul II (Karol Josef) Wojtyła 132[/ol]

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/383 "2005-01-06T00:16:03Z")

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**JohnbckWLD** , somewhere on the third page I stopped trying to do what you seem to have done here, but it looks as if our numbers would have been much the same.

One thing I noticed was that a number of Dopers made the selection “The Pope”  
I was assuming this was JPII, but it’s conceivable, although unlikely, one could get points twice for such a choice. John Paul II could kick off in 2005. Then, as inded did happen with JP’s predecessor, there could be a very short reign. So a person who claimed “The Pope” could say “Hey, gimme points for both deaths!”

**a35362** , how will such a situation be handled?

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/384 "2005-01-06T00:21:57Z")

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Wow. More than half my list is made up of completely unique picks!

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/385 "2005-01-06T00:22:47Z")

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Hmmm, Does MC$E’s Shirley McLaine Selection Count?  
Most Ironic Selection: George Wendt

If you take each doper’s picks & add the total number of selections a celebrity received, the 25 Dopers with the most popular selections are:[ol]  
[li] DeVena § 524[/li][li] Cinnamon Girl § 507[/li][li] Carm6773 § 503[/li][li] Etherman § 502[/li][li] Suburban Plankton § 477[/li][li] drewbert § 469[/li][li] a35362 § 462[/li][li] Anni § 459[/li][li] Diceman § 456[/li]WIGGUM § 456 (Tie)  
[li] Sean Factotum § 451[/li]Wallflower § 451 (Tie)  
[li] melondeca § 448[/li][li] Scruloose § 443[/li][li] Mehitabel § 428[/li][li] Earthman § 424[/li]The Vorlon § 424 (Tie)  
[li] Rico § 421[/li]SandyHook § 421 (Tie)  
[li] MC$E § 413[/li][li] hammos1 § 407[/li][li] cadolphin § 398[/li][li] LVgeogeek § 396[/li]Zsofia § 396 (Tie)  
[li] Squonk § 394[/li][li] Mona Lott § 392[/li]VunderBob § 392 (Tie)  
[li] eman77 § 387[/li]WVmom § 387 (Tie)  
[li] CowPatty § 385[/li][li] _Deva_ § 382[/li]brianjedi § 382 (Tie)  
[li] Uvula Donor § 379[/li]zamboniracer § 379(Tie)[/ol]

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/386 "2005-01-06T00:27:41Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
>
> Wow. More than half my list is made up of completely unique picks!

With that in mind,

The 30 Dopers with the _Most Unique \* Selections (Least # Of Cummulative Voters)[ol]  
[li] Horseflesh § 10 [/li][li] Zoog § 11 [/li][li] Captain Lance Murdoch § 19 [/li][li] pohjonen § 20 [/li][li] HelloKitty § 23 [/li][li] williamweigand § 25 [/li][li] Casey1505 § 27 [/li][li] TellMeI’mNotCrazy § 30 [/li][li] Tikki § 31 [/li][li] Edward The Head § 31 (Tie)[/li][li] Saitou § 37 [/li][li] Garfield226 § 37 (Tie)[/li][li] Headspace § 40 [/li][li] Lady Venom § 42 [/li][li] ParentalAdvisory § 46 [/li][li] tpayne § 47 [/li][li] Mullinator § 47 (Tie)[/li][li] Sublight § 48 [/li][li] JohnBckWLD § 49 [/li][li] plnnr § 50 [/li][li] CuriousCanuck § 52 [/li][li] sWitchazel § 58 [/li][li] Qwisp § 59 [/li][li] wolf\_meister § 59 (Tie)[/li][li] smam § 63 [/li][li] RumMunkey § 63 (Tie)[/li][li] Grace § 67 [/li][li] Mr. Goob § 70 [/li][li] Bricker § 75 [/li][_] spooje § 78 [/ol]

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/387 "2005-01-06T00:33:45Z")

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> [@JohnBckWLD](#):
>
> With that in mind,
> 
> The 30 Dopers with the \*Most Unique \* Selections (Least # Of Cummulative Voters)

I must not understand your formula…how could one end up with less than 13 points? Unless you’re not counting the poster him or herself (so all the unique picks count for nothing). . .

It will be interesting to see if there are trends between these lists and the overall winner.

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**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/388 "2005-01-06T00:50:39Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
>
> I must not understand your formula…how could one end up with less than 13 points? Unless you’re not counting the poster him or herself (so all the unique picks count for nothing). . .
> 
> It will be interesting to see if there are trends between these lists and the overall winner.

It should’ve read 37.

```auto

Sel # Celebrity Votes
#09	Chris Baranski	01
#10	Warren Beatty	02
#03	Kobe Bryant	01
#11	Bobby Fischer	01
#01	John Goodman	15
#07	Gene Hackman	02
#05	Dustin Hoffman	01
#04	Jerry Lewis	21
#08	Nathan Lane	01
#06	Tom Lehrer	02
#13	Mary Ann Mobley	01
#12	Sir Mix-A-Lot	01
#02	Bob Saget	01

```

(50-13)

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/389 "2005-01-06T00:51:31Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
>
> One thing I noticed was that a number of Dopers made the selection “The Pope”  
> I was assuming this was JPII, but it’s conceivable, although unlikely, one could get points twice for such a choice. John Paul II could kick off in 2005. Then, as inded did happen with JP’s predecessor, there could be a very short reign. So a person who claimed “The Pope” could say “Hey, gimme points for both deaths!”

Not to mention that the elderly Coptic Pope, Shenouda III, could pass away at any time. I was tempted to pick him just to be a contrarian.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/390 "2005-01-06T00:54:41Z")

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I’ve actually heard of that guy, but never thought of him as a “contrary choice”! 😃

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> [@JohnBckWLD](#):
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> (4 Dopers only selected 12 names).

Did anybody pick a celebrity who’s already dead? I run a small death pool for a few friends IRL and every year at least one person picks somebody who’s already dead.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/392 "2005-01-06T00:58:18Z")

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Wow, **JohnBckWLD** , you really do have some twiddle time (said the guy who had to winnow down his list from 88 possibles).

[QUOTE=JohnBckWLD]  
With that in mind,

The 30 Dopers with the \*Most Unique \* Selections (Least # Of Cummulative Voters)[ol]  
[li] Horseflesh § 10 [/li][li] Zoog § 11[/ol][/li][/QUOTE]

\<shakes fist at Horseflesh\>

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[QUOTE=JohnBckWLD]

The 30 Dopers with the \*Most Unique \* Selections (Least # Of Cummulative Voters)[list=1]  
Woohoo!!! I’m Number 9! I’m Number 9!

Thanks for coming up with all these interesting facts! 🆒

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> [@JohnBckWLD](#):
>
> Hmmm, Does MC$E’s Shirley McLaine Selection Count?  
> Most Ironic Selection: George Wendt
> 
> If you take each doper’s picks & add the total number of selections a celebrity received, the 25 Dopers with the most popular selections are:[ol]  
> [li] DeVena § 524[/li][li] Cinnamon Girl § 507[/li][/ol]
> 
> :: snip ::

That’s embarrassing. To be fair, this is my first death pool. Not that I ever thought I had a chance of being in the top 5 of anything, but thanks all the same.

☹

CG, not quite as unimaginative as DeVena 😛

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/395 "2005-01-06T10:52:48Z")

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> [@JohnBckWLD](#):
>
> Hmmm, Does MC$E’s Shirley McLaine Selection Count?  
> Most Ironic Selection: George Wendt
> 
> If you take each doper’s picks & add the total number of selections a celebrity received, the 25 Dopers with the most popular selections are:[ol]  
> [li] DeVena § 524[/li][li] Cinnamon Girl § 507[/li][li] Carm6773 § 503[/li][li] Etherman § 502[/li][li] Suburban Plankton § 477[/li][li] drewbert § 469[/li][li] a35362 § 462[/li][li] Anni § 459[/li][li] Diceman § 456[/li]WIGGUM § 456 (Tie)  
> [li] Sean Factotum § 451[/li]Wallflower § 451 (Tie)  
> [li] melondeca § 448[/li][li] Scruloose § 443[/li][li] Mehitabel § 428[/li][li] Earthman § 424[/li]The Vorlon § 424 (Tie)  
> [li] Rico § 421[/li]SandyHook § 421 (Tie)  
> [li] MC$E § 413[/li][li] hammos1 § 407[/li][li] cadolphin § 398[/li][li] LVgeogeek § 396[/li]Zsofia § 396 (Tie)  
> [li] Squonk § 394[/li][li] Mona Lott § 392[/li]VunderBob § 392 (Tie)  
> [li] eman77 § 387[/li]WVmom § 387 (Tie)  
> [li] CowPatty § 385[/li][li] _Deva_ § 382[/li]brianjedi § 382 (Tie)  
> [li] Uvula Donor § 379[/li]zamboniracer § 379(Tie)[/ol]

Well, at least I’m famous for _something_.

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**JohnBckWLD** , You rock. Thanks for making my favorite thread (for this year at least) more entertaining.

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> [@Baker](#):
>
> One thing I noticed was that a number of Dopers made the selection “The Pope.” I was assuming this was JPII, but it’s conceivable, although unlikely, one could get points twice for such a choice. John Paul II could kick off in 2005. Then, as inded did happen with JP’s predecessor, there could be a very short reign. So a person who claimed “The Pope” could say “Hey, gimme points for both deaths!”
> 
> **a35362** , how will such a situation be handled?

I’m assuming “The Pope” is John Paul II.

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> [@a35362](#):
>
> I’m assuming “The Pope” is John Paul II.

Surely “The Pope” means “The guy who was Pope as of midnight, Dec 31 2004”. If anyone tries to claim they were nominating the guy who was Pope as of September 23rd 2005 (for instance) I’ll have to raise an eyebrow at them :dubious:

Ah ha! In the rules (excerpt below) it actually says that nominations for The Pope will be assumed to mean Pope John Paul II, so that kinda takes care of the wiggle room.

> [@a35362](#):
>
> Some celebrities have common names or similar names. It is helpful to specify whether you’re picking Barbara Bush, the former First Lady or Barbara Bush, her granddaughter, to use examples from the past. If you pick “the Pope,” I’ll assume you mean “Pope John Paul II,” but it is helpful to be more specific.

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People really should try to point out who their celebs are when they pick them. Even if it’s someone who’s well-known. The “Pope” and “Barbara Bush” selections are pretty infamous here, but there were also picks for people like John Madden and Jason Alexander. These names are shared by more than one celebrity. John Madden the football guy or John Madden the director of Shakespeare in Love? Jason Alexander who was George Costanza or Jason Alexander who was Mr. Spears? Some people specified which one, but others did not. Someone picked two famous Robert Smiths (but he said who was who). Though no one picked them, names like Mike Scott (Waterboy, Astro) and Amanda Peet (actress, physicist) are not unique names either. There are many others, so it helps to be specific.

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Damn, I picked the wrong Mandela, I guess.

[Nelson’s son, Makgatho Mandela, succumbs to AIDS.](http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/africa/01/06/mandela.son.reut/index.html)

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