# The Celebrity Death Pool 2005

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574 "2004-12-01T21:22:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/61 "2004-12-02T16:16:56Z")

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Well, Arafat got me one vacancy, but I’ll shake up the rest a bit:

Keeping the Obligatories:

1. Pope John Paul II
2. Michael Jackson
3. Jimmy Carter
4. Kirk Douglas

And my own faves:  
5. Russell “The Professor” Johnson  
6. Steve-O (Stephen Gilchrist Glover)  
7. Ray Harryhausen  
8. Christopher Lee

Adding the new “not looking well” club:  
9. Elizabeth Taylor  
10. James Doohan  
11. William Renquist

Ashamed to be adding such a nice-seeming lady, but:  
12. Anne McCaffrey (author)

And the “I can’t belive I missed ODB” hiphop slot:  
13. Suge Knight

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/62 "2004-12-02T16:31:19Z")

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My first year. Any update on who is winning 2004?

Without much thought and some random picks:

1. Axl Rose
2. Whitney Houston
3. Steve Jobs
4. Elizabeth Taylor
5. Gerald Ford (good bet, not many points)
6. James Earl Jones
7. Willie Mays
8. Henry Kissinger
9. Colin Farrell (live fast, die young etc)
10. Peter O’Toole
11. Ed Koch
12. Willard Scott
13. James Brown

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**Author:** ![Vevila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@Vevila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vevila)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/63 "2004-12-02T17:32:57Z")

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1. Courtney Love
2. Scott Weiland
3. Cecil Fielder
4. Dr. Dre (Andre Young)
5. Alexander Haig
6. Jerry Lewis
7. Billy Graham
8. Pope John Paul II
9. Muhammad Ali
10. Dick Cheney
11. JD Salinger
12. Jack Kevorkian
13. Marion ‘Suge’ Knight

alternate picks, just in case:

1. Kirk Douglas
2. Richard Pryor
3. Elizabeth Taylor

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/64 "2004-12-02T18:01:58Z")

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This year let’s try this:

1. Zsa Zsa Gabor
2. Larry Hagman
3. Elizabeth Taylor
4. Richard Pryor
5. James “Scotty” Doohan
6. Gerald Ford
7. Olympia Dukakis
8. Farley Granger (actor)
9. Kenneth Griffith (actor)
10. Michael Jackson
11. Lady Bird Johnson
12. B. B. King
13. Ben “Cooter” Jones

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/65 "2004-12-02T18:02:29Z")

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**VunderBob** : Unless I missed a third marriage somewhere (and it’s not like I pay a whit of attention to her life), that’s Tammy Faye Bakker _Messner_.

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/66 "2004-12-02T18:06:27Z")

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Would you believe: Tammie Faye Bakker Messner?

You’d think she’d’ve learned how to spell by now . . .

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**Author:** ![Jamlad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b77776/32.png) [@Jamlad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamlad)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/67 "2004-12-02T18:19:49Z")

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My submission:

1.) Jerry Lewis  
2.) Pope John Paul II  
3.) Scott Weiland (Velvet Revolver)  
4.) Ja Rule  
5.) Whitney Houston  
6.) Dick Cheney  
7.) Mary Kate Olsen  
8.) James Doohan  
9.) Paul Newman  
10.) Tom Green  
11.) Wynona Judd  
12.) Tiger Woods  
13.) Roger Moore

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/68 "2004-12-02T18:19:59Z")

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YAY!

My Favorite time of year!

Spending the holidays with family, avoiding the conflict by going to my secret inner happy place and work on my DEAD POOL list. Its more like a coping mechanism, really.

And if you think I am submitting my list before the 31st, you are nuts. Nobody is stealing my dead people points. You bastids.

BTW, Hawking and Keith Richard and the Pope are all immortals.  
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> I’m still holding out for the addition of the Derisive Laughter award, for those players who don’t score at all during the year. Of course to fend off a Shirley Ujest drive-by comment, I mean scoring in the game, not the bedroom.

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Some of us just have **Death Appeal** , VunderBob - virgin!  
Drive by comment? Moi? 😃

Carry on, you lovely morbid people.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/69 "2004-12-02T19:32:53Z")

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> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> YAY!
> 
> Some of us just have **Death Appeal** , VunderBob - virgin!

Sorry, **Vunderbob** I meant to call you a necro-slut. 😃

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/70 "2004-12-02T20:25:27Z")

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> [@BJMoose](#):
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> **VunderBob** : Unless I missed a third marriage somewhere (and it’s not like I pay a whit of attention to her life), that’s Tammy Faye Bakker _Messner_.

Her current hubby is Roe Messner. I must have subconsciously merged the two names.

Yea, that’s the ticket…

Gamekeeper, w/could you please correct my submission of Tammy Faye to her correct last name?

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/71 "2004-12-02T20:26:31Z")

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> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> Sorry, **Vunderbob** I meant to call you a necro-slut. 😃

Flattery will get you everywhere, **Shirley** …  
😃

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/72 "2004-12-02T21:05:14Z")

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Whee! Another first timer joining in!

My picks:

1. Johnny Carson
2. Kirk Douglas
3. James Doohan
4. Annette Funicello
5. Carol Channing
6. Pope JP II
7. Brooke Astor
8. Richard Pryor
9. MaryKate Olsen
10. 50 Cent
11. Zsa Zsa Gabor
12. Dick Cheney
13. Billy Graham

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/73 "2004-12-02T21:57:29Z")

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I just read through the entire 2004 thread. Funny how everyone had the pope as their slam-dunk. Well there is still 29 days to go.

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**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/74 "2004-12-02T21:58:22Z")

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It’s my first time. Be gentle.

1.) 50 Cent  
2.) Pope John Paul II  
3.) George W. Bush  
4.) Keith Richards  
5.) Richard Pryor  
6.) Bernie Mac  
7.) William Rehnquist  
8.) Elizabeth Edwards  
9.) Tracey Gold  
10.) Johnny Carson  
11.) Mariah Carey  
12.) Andy Dick  
13.) Tara Reid

Should I need alternates (not likely—have you seen my list?):  
1.) Anna-Nicole Smith  
2.) Magic Johnson  
3.) Kirk Douglas

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**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/75 "2004-12-02T22:13:49Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> 1. Elizabeth Taylor Wilder Hilton Todd Fisher Burton Burton Warner Fortensky yada yada yada

That made me laugh! Especially the “Burton Burton”. Thanks! 😃

Here’s my list. I will probably change it before December 31st. Looks like I’ve gone the easy route and chosen mostly old or sick people. So far this year I only have 20 points, for Marlon Brando.

1. Paris Hilton, heiress
2. Elizabeth Taylor, actress
3. Richard Dawson, actor/game show host
4. Mary Kate Olson, actress/entrepreneur
5. Bob Newhart, actor/comedian
6. Bea Arthur, actress
7. Estelle Getty, actress
8. Peter O’Toole, actor
9. Gerald Ford, ex-President of the U.S.
10. Walter Cronkite, journalist
11. Charlton Heston, actor
12. Ollie Johnston, one of Walt Disney’s original Nine animators
13. Michael J. Fox, actor

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**Author:** ![Saitou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Saitou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saitou)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/76 "2004-12-02T22:19:23Z")

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1. Arthur C. Clarke
2. Sid Caesar
3. Sir Patrick Moore
4. Claude Lévi-Strauss
5. Dino de Laurentiis
6. Efrem Zimbalist jr.
7. Kurt Waldheim
8. Arthur Miller
9. Kirk Douglas
10. Jürgen Habermas
11. Eli Wallach
12. Pelé (Edson Arantes Do Nascimento)
13. Augusto Pinochet

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**Author:** ![Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilvert_s_Pagan)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/77 "2004-12-03T01:03:36Z")

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with apologies for being high maintenance, please substitute  
(13) George Carlin for my original (13) Michael J. Fox.

Surely all those cocaine years took their toll…

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**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/78 "2004-12-03T03:46:01Z")

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[ol][li]Pope John Paul II[/li][li]Muhammed Ali[/li][li]Justice William Rehnquist[/li][li]Richard Pryor[/li][li]James “Scotty” Doohan[/li][li]Estelle Getty[/li][li]Rosa Parks[/li][li]Annette Funicello[/li][li]Anna Nicole Smith[/li][li]Jane Wyman[/li][li]Robert Blake[/li][li]Tammy Faye Messner[/li][li]David “Squiggy” Lander[/ol] [/li]  
And my alternates:  
[ol][li]Mary-Kate Olsen[/li][li]Jack Klugman[/li][/ol]

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**Author:** ![Lucretia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@Lucretia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucretia)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/79 "2004-12-03T04:22:32Z")

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Hokay, my list of celebrities that I think have a date with eternity:

1. Wilford Brimley (actor, celebrity spokesman)
2. Terry ‘Hulk Hogan’ Bollea (professional wrestler, actor)
3. Pope John Paul II (head of the roman catholic church)
4. Justice William Rehnquist (chief justice of the supreme court of the US)
5. Michael J. Fox (actor)
6. Kirstie Alley (actress)
7. John Ashcroft (former attorney general of the US)
8. President George W. Bush (president of the US)
9. John Goodman (actor)
10. Ralphie May (comedian)
11. Scott Peterson (former fertilizer salesman, convicted murderer)
12. Keith Richards (musician)
13. Youree ‘Miss Cleo’ Dell Harris (television con artist)

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2005/277574/80 "2004-12-03T04:57:21Z")

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I’m waiting until much later, probably the 31st, to submit. Why would I submit now? I have some good ones, and I want a Grim Reaper award!

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